In article ,
DSK wrote:


What damage does this do to the boats hull? Doesn't the sand
eventually sand away the protective gel coat? Is there anything you
can do like good wax?

If sand is going to damage gelcoat, a coat of wax isn't going to help much.


Karl Denninger wrote:
Its very common, and very stupid. Its done all the time around here and I
cringe when I see someone do it with a really NICE boat.

Most of the time, I see it done by people who don't know any better - as
evidenced by not only their beached boat, but their choice in vessel in the
first place.

Now this is a very unhelpful remark.

I beach nice boats all the time, including some racing sailboats that
have mirror perfect hulls. If you do it right, it is fully possible to
not damage the boat at all. Another option is to not obsess, but simply
renew the gel coat in the forefoot every season.

DSK

A better option is to just anchor the boat a few feet off!

Is it really THAT hard to drop a couple of hooks?

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Karl Denninger wrote:
A better option is to just anchor the boat a few feet off!

Usually... agreed.


Is it really THAT hard to drop a couple of hooks?

Sometimes there are reasons not to... don't have an anchor, just
stepping off for a minute, crowded, etc etc.

Certainly there are more wrong ways to do it than right ways.

Fair Skies
Doug King

If you really want a "beach" boat, get an old pontoon. You can land granny on
the beach without getting her support hose wet.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 02:18:30 GMT, (Karl Denninger)
wrote:

A better option is to just anchor the boat a few feet off!

Is it really THAT hard to drop a couple of hooks?

I beach a hobie cat through the surf. I'm not gonna anchor anything in
breaking waves.

Steve

JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:44:16 -0400, Ed wrote:

Most of us in FLorida have barrier coats and bottom paint so not a
real long term issue. If you think it is a problem, just carry 2
anchors and drop one on the way in and the other after you back in
(carry it to the beach). This also helps if you happen to go to
the beach on a falling tide.


This is a great way to play on the beach and not rub on the sand. A
small anchor with about fifty feet of rope tied to the stern works
great for me.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

There are 10 kinds of people in the world,
those who can do binary and those who can't!

I believe this is the option I am going to use. Friday, I'm picking up
my first NEW boat. All others have been used, beatup boats. No gel
coat to worry about. This is a 2004 and straight from the dealer so I
want to baby it.

Thanks all!

DSK wrote:

Karl Denninger wrote:
A better option is to just anchor the boat a few feet off!

Usually... agreed.


Is it really THAT hard to drop a couple of hooks?

Sometimes there are reasons not to... don't have an anchor, just
stepping off for a minute, crowded, etc etc.


You bring up a good point. Here in Florida, weekends look like a
Walmart parking lot in many areas. Sometimes I wonder if one of those
beeping keychains (the boat "beeps") are needed to find your boat.

Most of the time, I try to avoid those areas though.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 01:44:26 GMT, (Karl
Denninger) wrote:


In article ,
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:53:54 GMT, (Karl
Denninger) wrote:


In article ,
TC wrote:


Here in Florida, it's common practice to bring smaller boats into the
shallows to "beach". Then everyone gets out and plays, lounges, BBQs,
etc.

What damage does this do to the boats hull? Doesn't the sand
eventually sand away the protective gel coat? Is there anything you
can do like good wax?

Its very common, and very stupid. Its done all the time around here and I
cringe when I see someone do it with a really NICE boat.

Most of the time, I see it done by people who don't know any better - as
evidenced by not only their beached boat, but their choice in vessel in the
first place.

Well, that was certainly helpful.

And honest.

Really, how hard is it to drop two hooks a few feet off? C'mon.

Sheesh - is another $10 - $50 worth of ground tackle (you already have
ONE hook, right?) too much to buy so your gelcoat doesn't look like someone
took a 4" grinder to it in a couple of years?

I beach my jetski - its 10 years old and I don't give a tinker's cuss
what the bottom looks like.

It, as might be expected, looks like someone took a 4" grinder to it.

I NEVER do that to any of my "real" boats.

BTW, keel guards don't stop the abrasion either - they stop some of the
damage, but not all of it.

I was pulling your leg a little - no offense intended. :)

However, I beach my Ranger on lakes where there finger piers don't
exist and the bottom is fine. The keel guard is a little beat up, but
the bow is well protected and the gel coat around the keep guard is
fine.

I see anchored and beached boats all the time at Napatree Beach over
in Westerly, RI - some nice new ones too. The beached ones tend to
have keel quarks rather than barrier coats.

By the way, does anyone happen to know how hard it is to remove a
barrier coat if you had to? ;)

All the best,

Tom
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"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

Yes, it is a bitch, but why would you want to remove the barrier coat?


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 01:44:26 GMT, (Karl
Denninger) wrote:


In article ,
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:53:54 GMT, (Karl
Denninger) wrote:


In article ,
TC wrote:


Here in Florida, it's common practice to bring smaller boats into the
shallows to "beach". Then everyone gets out and plays, lounges, BBQs,
etc.

What damage does this do to the boats hull? Doesn't the sand
eventually sand away the protective gel coat? Is there anything you
can do like good wax?

Its very common, and very stupid. Its done all the time around here and
I
cringe when I see someone do it with a really NICE boat.

Most of the time, I see it done by people who don't know any better - as
evidenced by not only their beached boat, but their choice in vessel in
the
first place.

Well, that was certainly helpful.

And honest.

Really, how hard is it to drop two hooks a few feet off? C'mon.

Sheesh - is another $10 - $50 worth of ground tackle (you already have
ONE hook, right?) too much to buy so your gelcoat doesn't look like
someone
took a 4" grinder to it in a couple of years?

I beach my jetski - its 10 years old and I don't give a tinker's cuss
what the bottom looks like.

It, as might be expected, looks like someone took a 4" grinder to it.

I NEVER do that to any of my "real" boats.

BTW, keel guards don't stop the abrasion either - they stop some of the
damage, but not all of it.

I was pulling your leg a little - no offense intended. :)

However, I beach my Ranger on lakes where there finger piers don't
exist and the bottom is fine. The keel guard is a little beat up, but
the bow is well protected and the gel coat around the keep guard is
fine.

I see anchored and beached boats all the time at Napatree Beach over
in Westerly, RI - some nice new ones too. The beached ones tend to
have keel quarks rather than barrier coats.

By the way, does anyone happen to know how hard it is to remove a
barrier coat if you had to? ;)

All the best,

Tom
--------------

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

In article ,
TC wrote:


DSK wrote:

Karl Denninger wrote:
A better option is to just anchor the boat a few feet off!

Usually... agreed.


Is it really THAT hard to drop a couple of hooks?

Sometimes there are reasons not to... don't have an anchor, just
stepping off for a minute, crowded, etc etc.


You bring up a good point. Here in Florida, weekends look like a
Walmart parking lot in many areas. Sometimes I wonder if one of those
beeping keychains (the boat "beeps") are needed to find your boat.

Most of the time, I try to avoid those areas though.

Yeah, and if you beach in one of those "parking lots", guess what the random
wake is going to do when it comes at you at an angle....

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In article ,
Steven Shelikoff wrote:


On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 02:18:30 GMT, (Karl Denninger)
wrote:

A better option is to just anchor the boat a few feet off!

Is it really THAT hard to drop a couple of hooks?

I beach a hobie cat through the surf. I'm not gonna anchor anything in
breaking waves.

Steve

Uh, a Hobie is a BIT different than what was being talked about Steve.