starwars wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Jim wrote:

NY Times
October 17, 2004
IN THE MAGAZINE
Without a Doubt
By RON SUSKIND



Great, a copy and paste of one assholes work by another asshole.



Best you can do is call names? NA NA NA NA!

Try some logic, or would that strain your brain?

"Jim" wrote in message
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NY Times
October 17, 2004
IN THE MAGAZINE
Without a Doubt
By RON SUSKIND

Bruce Bartlett, a domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan and a
treasury official for the first President Bush, told me recently that
''if Bush wins, there will be a civil war in the Republican Party
starting on Nov. 3.'' The nature of that conflict, as Bartlett sees it?
Essentially, the same as the one raging across much of the world: a
battle between modernists and fundamentalists, pragmatists and true
believers, reason and religion.

''Just in the past few months,'' Bartlett said, ''I think a light has
gone off for people who've spent time up close to Bush: that this
instinct he's always talking about is this sort of weird, Messianic idea
of what he thinks God has told him to do.'' Bartlett, a 53-year-old
columnist and self-described libertarian Republican who has lately been
a champion for traditional Republicans concerned about Bush's
governance, went on to say: ''This is why George W. Bush is so
clear-eyed about Al Qaeda and the Islamic fundamentalist enemy. He
believes you have to kill them all. They can't be persuaded, that
they're extremists, driven by a dark vision. He understands them,
because he's just like them. . . .

Having an absolute conviction that religious fanatics or fanatics by any
definition are a serious threat to civilization is not a stretch of logic.
To have the evidence of over a 1000 years of history and the latest event
9/11 and even doves are convinced that they need to be eliminated.

Of the 20 prisoners captured in Afghanistan and released from jail (under
pressure from civil rights advocates) 9 have kidnapped, killed or blown up
people as they have gone back to their old ways.

If I started defending serial killers and advocating release as they have
had their civil rights denied people would think I was nuts. BUT that's
what these Fanatics a SERIAL KILLERS that are SMART, WARPED, INSANE and
PSYCHOPATHS. But much worse they have an appeal to the disenfranchised.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jeff Rigby wrote:

Having an absolute conviction that religious fanatics or fanatics by any
definition are a serious threat to civilization is not a stretch of
logic.
To have the evidence of over a 1000 years of history and the latest event
9/11 and even doves are convinced that they need to be eliminated.

Yes, and that is one of the reasons why Bush is so damned scary...he's a
religious fanatic.

Why are you afraid of someone that is guided by a higher authority?

Why are you afraid of someone that is guided by a higher authority?

Osama bin Ladin is quided by a "higher authority". The greatest majority of
atrocities throughout history have been committed by persons claiming to be
acting for God, or some other diety. Adolph Hitler thought he had a holy
mandate to eliminate Jews- and if I remember the facts correctly he has *never*
been excommunicated from the RCC. (The RCC certainly doesn't and didn't condone
The Final Solution, but they hve kicked folks out for far less serious offenses
in the past-------come to think of it almost all offenses would be less
serious)

Throughout European history, there have been very bloody wars between sects
that acknowledge pretty much the *same* higer power, but disagree on what He or
She is saying.

Our religious leaders should be guided by
the "higher authority" appropriate for the religion they lead. Our secular
leaders, (such as the POTUS, leading a country forbidden by its own framers
from ever establishing a state religion), need to be concerned with diplomatic,
economic, strategic, and other worldly issues rather than presume to act as a
partisan agent of some diety or another.

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message ...
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Jeff Rigby wrote:

Having an absolute conviction that religious fanatics or fanatics by any
definition are a serious threat to civilization is not a stretch of
logic.
To have the evidence of over a 1000 years of history and the latest event
9/11 and even doves are convinced that they need to be eliminated.

Yes, and that is one of the reasons why Bush is so damned scary...he's a
religious fanatic.

Why are you afraid of someone that is guided by a higher authority?

Because it's just plain dangerous, when one is "guided by a higher
authority" that is a figment of one's imagination.