Eisboch wrote:
I recently got some officially released US Navy photos.

The first is our younger son John manning the rail as the USS Harry S
Truman got underway from Norfolk Oct 13th for a six month deployment.

John is a newlywed and his bride was one of the hundreds on the pier
seeing the ship off. (Note the shiny new wedding band)

I think the picture says it all.

The second is an impressive shot of the Carrier in transit.

The pics may be viewed at: http://tinyurl.com/4uujj


Eisboch

Well done, damn that's a big boat!!!

K

Harry Krause wrote:
thunder wrote:

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:56:07 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:


On the ship itself, is it Harry S Truman or Harry S. Truman? The first is
correct, the second is not.

Interesting, I haven't found a picture showing the name on the ship, but
according to this link it's S. You better keep it quiet, Harry. It'll
cost us a fortune to fix that mistake.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/s..._bt394-98.html



President Truman used to call the "dayside" at the KC Star on occasion
to speak with the copy chief and remind him there was no period after S,
and that he had no middle name. At least twice a year, the dayside Star
got it wrong.

Those of us on the "nightside" of the paper, the am Times, knew better.
The best copy editors worked the night shift and they beat "proper Star
style" into us. Nothing was worse than being a "newbie" on that paper,
sitting in the front row, and hearing "BOY!?" over the loudspeaker. You
looked up and there was a 70-year-old grammarian staring you down from
50 feet away. Gulp. "Don't you know there's no period after the S in
Truman's name, boy?"

BOY!? was the universal greeting for a first-year reporter. It mattered
not what gender or color you were.




Hmmm Krause trying to pretend he knows something??? anything at all???
I smell another Krause lie he-)

Truman did not have a middle name so I guess technically the correct
written form probably might not have a period after the "S".

Anal Krause has then concocted this lie around that well known, trivial
& rather boring fact. From there on in I think the story is a full on
fabrication. The bit about "President" Truman ringing (pre 1953) is very
suspect in itself (Krause was at best a toddler, I use "was" because
it's still not likely he has the brains to stand upright & walk:-)) &
it's either local paper story telling or just yet another outright
Krause fabrication; as all his other lies are.

However what Krause clearly doesn't know was that Truman himself used a
period after the "s" in his own correspondence when he worked in a bank
pre President, letterheads and even his written Presidential signature,
so it seems most unlikely that during his Presidency he took to ringing
a local paper in Kansas, because most of the world puts a period after
the "s" even today.

The usual sad pathetic Krause BS. Oh well suppose we're lucky he didn't
claim to be related:-) however hold onto your keyboards for the "named
after" claim:-)

Here's a couple of addresses for you to check dots upon dots by Truman
himself!!!! Remember the library he raised the money for & set up
himself??? seems to also use Truman's preferred written form:-).

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/letter/anniv3.jpg
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/letters/de3110p4.gif
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/truman.htm
or here at "his" library where he's buried
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/
or does this sound like a friendly just phoned for a chat with the
President relationship???
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/places/kc1.htm

So Mr E I'd hold off on being too noisy with your son if people use a
period after the S when referring to Truman or the ship, because
believing Krause is asking to look an uneducated simpleton; like him.

Candidly I doubt the US navy would get that wrong whichever way they
have chosen to write it. For me the real tribute is to have a period
after the "S" in full knowledge of the facts & accepting with respect
the owner used that written form himself, whereas it's offensive when
the wanna be liar union lefty hangers on like Krause try for the
politically correct amendment.



K

Harry Krause wrote:
K. Smith wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

thunder wrote:


On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:56:07 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:



On the ship itself, is it Harry S Truman or Harry S. Truman? The first is
correct, the second is not.

Interesting, I haven't found a picture showing the name on the ship, but
according to this link it's S. You better keep it quiet, Harry. It'll
cost us a fortune to fix that mistake.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/s..._bt394-98.html



President Truman used to call the "dayside" at the KC Star on occasion
to speak with the copy chief and remind him there was no period after S,
and that he had no middle name. At least twice a year, the dayside Star
got it wrong.

Those of us on the "nightside" of the paper, the am Times, knew better.
The best copy editors worked the night shift and they beat "proper Star
style" into us. Nothing was worse than being a "newbie" on that paper,
sitting in the front row, and hearing "BOY!?" over the loudspeaker. You
looked up and there was a 70-year-old grammarian staring you down from
50 feet away. Gulp. "Don't you know there's no period after the S in
Truman's name, boy?"

BOY!? was the universal greeting for a first-year reporter. It mattered
not what gender or color you were.




Hmmm Krause trying to pretend he knows something??? anything at all???
I smell another Krause lie he-)


What you smell is your own stool dripping down your leg.





Truman did not have a middle name so I guess technically the correct
written form probably might not have a period after the "S".



You guess "technically?" Indeed.


Anal Krause has then concocted this lie around that well known, trivial
& rather boring fact. From there on in I think the story is a full on
fabrication. The bit about "President" Truman ringing (pre 1953) is very
suspect in itself (Krause was at best a toddler, I use "was" because
it's still not likely he has the brains to stand upright & walk:-)) &
it's either local paper story telling or just yet another outright
Krause fabrication; as all his other lies are.


Hmmmm. Did I write that President Truman rang up the paper pre-1953? I
don't think so. I wouldn't know, anyway, since I didn't work for the
paper until into the 1960s. I refer to Truman as President Truman,
because even after they leave office, our Presidents are referred to
with their title in appropriate form. Thus, if you had the opportunity
to meet former President Gerry Ford, or former President Jimmy Carter,
you would still as a matter of politeness address them as "Mr.
President," "Sir," or, less formally, "President Ford," or "President
Carter." Or in written form, you might refer to them as "Former
President Ford."

BTW, in checking the list of advertisers and exhibitors for some
upcoming boat shows, I found no reference to an Australian-manufactured
diesel outboard motor*. Are you holding off for the 2006 model year?



* Australian-manufactured...means a Japanese diesel motor welded on top
of a Scott-A****er lower unit, with the whole mess painted from a $1.99
can of non-rust-inhibiting off-white spray paint from the WW II surplus
store.





You best check your killfile Krause you seem to find me in lightning
time & neither of us want that:-)

& here I was expecting a proper defense?? ahh the liar is caught again,
too easy & fun:-)

You are just a lying oxygen thief Krause who could have caused Mr E
some embarrassment with this little BS story.

K

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
The first is correct. I read a biography on Truman and he never used a
period after "S".

Eisboch

Eisboch,

You seem like a very smart guy with lots to contribute to the group...I
enjoy reading your boating related threads.

However, you seem to veer off topic regularly, and end up feeding the worst
OT trolls here. Why is that? Would you consider staying on-topic here?

Thanks, and let us know.


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:55:39 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

K. Smith wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
thunder wrote:

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:56:07 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:


On the ship itself, is it Harry S Truman or Harry S. Truman? The first is
correct, the second is not.

Interesting, I haven't found a picture showing the name on the ship, but
according to this link it's S. You better keep it quiet, Harry. It'll
cost us a fortune to fix that mistake.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/s..._bt394-98.html



President Truman used to call the "dayside" at the KC Star on occasion
to speak with the copy chief and remind him there was no period after S,
and that he had no middle name. At least twice a year, the dayside Star
got it wrong.

Those of us on the "nightside" of the paper, the am Times, knew better.
The best copy editors worked the night shift and they beat "proper Star
style" into us. Nothing was worse than being a "newbie" on that paper,
sitting in the front row, and hearing "BOY!?" over the loudspeaker. You
looked up and there was a 70-year-old grammarian staring you down from
50 feet away. Gulp. "Don't you know there's no period after the S in
Truman's name, boy?"

BOY!? was the universal greeting for a first-year reporter. It mattered
not what gender or color you were.




Hmmm Krause trying to pretend he knows something??? anything at all???
I smell another Krause lie he-)

What you smell is your own stool dripping down your leg.




Truman did not have a middle name so I guess technically the correct
written form probably might not have a period after the "S".


You guess "technically?" Indeed.


Anal Krause has then concocted this lie around that well known, trivial
& rather boring fact. From there on in I think the story is a full on
fabrication. The bit about "President" Truman ringing (pre 1953) is very
suspect in itself (Krause was at best a toddler, I use "was" because
it's still not likely he has the brains to stand upright & walk:-)) &
it's either local paper story telling or just yet another outright
Krause fabrication; as all his other lies are.

Hmmmm. Did I write that President Truman rang up the paper pre-1953? I
don't think so. I wouldn't know, anyway, since I didn't work for the
paper until into the 1960s. I refer to Truman as President Truman,
because even after they leave office, our Presidents are referred to
with their title in appropriate form. Thus, if you had the opportunity
to meet former President Gerry Ford, or former President Jimmy Carter,
you would still as a matter of politeness address them as "Mr.
President," "Sir," or, less formally, "President Ford," or "President
Carter." Or in written form, you might refer to them as "Former
President Ford."

BTW, in checking the list of advertisers and exhibitors for some
upcoming boat shows, I found no reference to an Australian-manufactured
diesel outboard motor*. Are you holding off for the 2006 model year?



* Australian-manufactured...means a Japanese diesel motor welded on top
of a Scott-A****er lower unit, with the whole mess painted from a $1.99
can of non-rust-inhibiting off-white spray paint from the WW II surplus
store.

Harry, you were fairly caught and fairly hung out to dry. You should
stick to boating. Or, you should send your posts to basskisser to see
if they pass the lie detector test.

Where, by the way, are the 20-30 of my racist posts you felt the need
to comment on? Hmmm?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:55:39 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


K. Smith wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

thunder wrote:


On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:56:07 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:



On the ship itself, is it Harry S Truman or Harry S. Truman? The first is
correct, the second is not.

Interesting, I haven't found a picture showing the name on the ship, but
according to this link it's S. You better keep it quiet, Harry. It'll
cost us a fortune to fix that mistake.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/s..._bt394-98.html



President Truman used to call the "dayside" at the KC Star on occasion
to speak with the copy chief and remind him there was no period after S,
and that he had no middle name. At least twice a year, the dayside Star
got it wrong.

Those of us on the "nightside" of the paper, the am Times, knew better.
The best copy editors worked the night shift and they beat "proper Star
style" into us. Nothing was worse than being a "newbie" on that paper,
sitting in the front row, and hearing "BOY!?" over the loudspeaker. You
looked up and there was a 70-year-old grammarian staring you down from
50 feet away. Gulp. "Don't you know there's no period after the S in
Truman's name, boy?"

BOY!? was the universal greeting for a first-year reporter. It mattered
not what gender or color you were.




Hmmm Krause trying to pretend he knows something??? anything at all???
I smell another Krause lie he-)

What you smell is your own stool dripping down your leg.





Truman did not have a middle name so I guess technically the correct
written form probably might not have a period after the "S".


You guess "technically?" Indeed.


Anal Krause has then concocted this lie around that well known, trivial
& rather boring fact. From there on in I think the story is a full on
fabrication. The bit about "President" Truman ringing (pre 1953) is very
suspect in itself (Krause was at best a toddler, I use "was" because
it's still not likely he has the brains to stand upright & walk:-)) &
it's either local paper story telling or just yet another outright
Krause fabrication; as all his other lies are.

Hmmmm. Did I write that President Truman rang up the paper pre-1953? I
don't think so. I wouldn't know, anyway, since I didn't work for the
paper until into the 1960s. I refer to Truman as President Truman,
because even after they leave office, our Presidents are referred to
with their title in appropriate form. Thus, if you had the opportunity
to meet former President Gerry Ford, or former President Jimmy Carter,
you would still as a matter of politeness address them as "Mr.
President," "Sir," or, less formally, "President Ford," or "President
Carter." Or in written form, you might refer to them as "Former
President Ford."

BTW, in checking the list of advertisers and exhibitors for some
upcoming boat shows, I found no reference to an Australian-manufactured
diesel outboard motor*. Are you holding off for the 2006 model year?



* Australian-manufactured...means a Japanese diesel motor welded on top
of a Scott-A****er lower unit, with the whole mess painted from a $1.99
can of non-rust-inhibiting off-white spray paint from the WW II surplus
store.

Harry, you were fairly caught and fairly hung out to dry. You should
stick to boating. Or, you should send your posts to basskisser to see
if they pass the lie detector test.



What are you raving about now, Herring? I worked at The Star and the
anecdote I presented is as it happened. Further, I was the "Time
Magazine" Truman correpondent in KC for more than a year, and talked
with Truman or his wife several times, and even met him a few times.
And, no, "Truman correspondent" was not a big deal. At that time, the
magazine had an on-going arrangement with a reporter from The Star to be
its local contact for Truman in case it wanted a comment on some topic
from the former President. I inherited the job from a Star reporter who
moved on to another paper. It paid $50 a month, whether you got a call
or not. In the year or so I had the "job," I was asked to contact Truman
about a half-dozen times. If I recall, on five of the occasions, Truman
had "no comment."

Truman was not a vain man, but he did want his name spelled properly,
and when he noticed the major newspaper in his area screwed it up, he or
Mrs. Truman called. And we heard about it. If you have some valid way to
naysay that, go right ahead. The opinions of a greasemonkey's discarded
harlot from Australia are not valid.


As always when caught in a lie he tries to lie his way out of it with
an even bigger lie!!!!!, now Truman himself or nudge nudge wink wink if
you just can't bring yourself to believe that then he'll say Mrs Truman
complained!!!:-) honestly if it were a school boy you'd giggle but this
is a grown man trying to make himself seem anything anything other than
what he really is, a non boating, union fund employee, spriuker for the
loony left & a waist of space!!!

Thanks for confirming the lie Krause, very good!!!

Remember the lie about just launched the boat?? when he was online
almost continuously!!! then lying his way out of it he revealed he
didn't even have a clue a 26ft boat would have a multi speed trailer
winch!!! indeed this lying idiot didn't even know boat trailer winches
were more than one speed:-)

Lovely my day is made, too easy:-) If you didn't exist Krause we'd need
to invent you just for a laugh:-) I'm putting this up on the wall of
******s.


K




Where, by the way, are the 20-30 of my racist posts you felt the need
to comment on? Hmmm?


Told you already, Herring, you aren't worth the deja-google time. But
you continue to make racist remarks about blacks, usually via innuendo.
There's no doubt about your disdain for darker-skinned folk. You know it
and I know it.

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:01:32 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:55:39 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

K. Smith wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
thunder wrote:

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:56:07 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:


On the ship itself, is it Harry S Truman or Harry S. Truman? The first is
correct, the second is not.

Interesting, I haven't found a picture showing the name on the ship, but
according to this link it's S. You better keep it quiet, Harry. It'll
cost us a fortune to fix that mistake.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/s..._bt394-98.html



President Truman used to call the "dayside" at the KC Star on occasion
to speak with the copy chief and remind him there was no period after S,
and that he had no middle name. At least twice a year, the dayside Star
got it wrong.

Those of us on the "nightside" of the paper, the am Times, knew better.
The best copy editors worked the night shift and they beat "proper Star
style" into us. Nothing was worse than being a "newbie" on that paper,
sitting in the front row, and hearing "BOY!?" over the loudspeaker. You
looked up and there was a 70-year-old grammarian staring you down from
50 feet away. Gulp. "Don't you know there's no period after the S in
Truman's name, boy?"

BOY!? was the universal greeting for a first-year reporter. It mattered
not what gender or color you were.




Hmmm Krause trying to pretend he knows something??? anything at all???
I smell another Krause lie he-)

What you smell is your own stool dripping down your leg.




Truman did not have a middle name so I guess technically the correct
written form probably might not have a period after the "S".


You guess "technically?" Indeed.


Anal Krause has then concocted this lie around that well known, trivial
& rather boring fact. From there on in I think the story is a full on
fabrication. The bit about "President" Truman ringing (pre 1953) is very
suspect in itself (Krause was at best a toddler, I use "was" because
it's still not likely he has the brains to stand upright & walk:-)) &
it's either local paper story telling or just yet another outright
Krause fabrication; as all his other lies are.

Hmmmm. Did I write that President Truman rang up the paper pre-1953? I
don't think so. I wouldn't know, anyway, since I didn't work for the
paper until into the 1960s. I refer to Truman as President Truman,
because even after they leave office, our Presidents are referred to
with their title in appropriate form. Thus, if you had the opportunity
to meet former President Gerry Ford, or former President Jimmy Carter,
you would still as a matter of politeness address them as "Mr.
President," "Sir," or, less formally, "President Ford," or "President
Carter." Or in written form, you might refer to them as "Former
President Ford."

BTW, in checking the list of advertisers and exhibitors for some
upcoming boat shows, I found no reference to an Australian-manufactured
diesel outboard motor*. Are you holding off for the 2006 model year?



* Australian-manufactured...means a Japanese diesel motor welded on top
of a Scott-A****er lower unit, with the whole mess painted from a $1.99
can of non-rust-inhibiting off-white spray paint from the WW II surplus
store.

Harry, you were fairly caught and fairly hung out to dry. You should
stick to boating. Or, you should send your posts to basskisser to see
if they pass the lie detector test.


What are you raving about now, Herring? I worked at The Star and the
anecdote I presented is as it happened. Further, I was the "Time
Magazine" Truman correpondent in KC for more than a year, and talked
with Truman or his wife several times, and even met him a few times.
And, no, "Truman correspondent" was not a big deal. At that time, the
magazine had an on-going arrangement with a reporter from The Star to be
its local contact for Truman in case it wanted a comment on some topic
from the former President. I inherited the job from a Star reporter who
moved on to another paper. It paid $50 a month, whether you got a call
or not. In the year or so I had the "job," I was asked to contact Truman
about a half-dozen times. If I recall, on five of the occasions, Truman
had "no comment."

Truman was not a vain man, but he did want his name spelled properly,
and when he noticed the major newspaper in his area screwed it up, he or
Mrs. Truman called. And we heard about it. If you have some valid way to
naysay that, go right ahead. The opinions of a greasemonkey's discarded
harlot from Australia are not valid.




Where, by the way, are the 20-30 of my racist posts you felt the need
to comment on? Hmmm?

Told you already, Herring, you aren't worth the deja-google time. But
you continue to make racist remarks about blacks, usually via innuendo.
There's no doubt about your disdain for darker-skinned folk. You know it
and I know it.

Harry, perhaps there is someone reading your words who believes them.
If so, maybe they'll give you a pat of the back.

I'm most definitely *not* that person. I've had personal experience
with your lies.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:05:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

K. Smith wrote:


You best check your killfile Krause you seem to find me in lightning
time & neither of us want that:-)

Have I claimed recently that you were in my dumpster bin? I don't
believe I did.

As for what you want, I really don't give a damn.


& here I was expecting a proper defense?? ahh the liar is caught again,
too easy & fun:-)

Being called a liar by a discarded greasemonkey's harlot like you is
somewhat of a badge of courage.


Gosh Harry, you finally earned a medal.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Calif Bill" wrote in message nk.net...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

I recently got some officially released US Navy photos.

The first is our younger son John manning the rail as the USS Harry S
Truman got underway from Norfolk Oct 13th for a six month deployment.

John is a newlywed and his bride was one of the hundreds on the pier
seeing the ship off. (Note the shiny new wedding band)

I think the picture says it all.

The second is an impressive shot of the Carrier in transit.

The pics may be viewed at: http://tinyurl.com/4uujj


Eisboch

That's nothin'. I have two of those boats, "Lobsta 1" and Lobsta 2". I
just
don't use 'em that much. :-)

Just kidding! Nice pics!




On the ship itself, is it Harry S Truman or Harry S. Truman? The first
is correct, the second is not.


The first is correct. I read a biography on Truman and he never used a
period after "S".

Eisboch

My mother won a contest in about 1951 by knowing that Harry S did not have a
middle name. One of those items that stick with you the rest of your life.
As to manning the rail. Friend was an enlisted man on a carrier in the
50's. He said a great incentive to not be a sailor, but to be an officer
was the show the enlisted had to put on by standing on the deck as you
arrived in port. And arriving in San Francisco caused you to almost freeze
to death.

I have a employee with a middle initial. Simply the letter D with no
period. People adding the period actually annoys him a bit. He signs
his name with quotation marks around the D to draw attention to the
fact that it is just a letter.

Curtis CCR wrote:



I have a employee with a middle initial. Simply the letter D with no
period. People adding the period actually annoys him a bit. He signs
his name with quotation marks around the D to draw attention to the
fact that it is just a letter.


My new daughter-in-law sent me an official USS Harry S Truman ballcap
purchased at the Navy base in Norfolk. It is stitched or embroidered
(whatever it is they do) with "USS Harry S. Truman" CVN 75. I'll get
some waterproof blue ink and blot out the period, I think.

The cap is now part of my collection of about a zillion various ballcaps
and half a zillion well worn boat shoes that I just can't bring myself
to throw away. They all work well with the wardrobe of the recently
retired, including pants that are buckled 3/4 of the way up my chest and
held in place with one of a quarter zillion belts that have pictures of
little fish on them.

At least I don't wear ties anymore.

Eisboch