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any time I am in Wal-Mart I see all kinds of hypocrite union
people... You all badmouth the capitalist and the freemarket but your the first to flock to these box stores to save ten cents on an item Funny, related incident: I was selling cars in a Chrysler dealership when Lee Iacocca saved the company. As Chrysler was moving from intensive care to general bed rest, a guy stopped by the dealership one day and said, "Show me one of these K Cars everybody is taling about." We checked out every feature of the car, and the prospect kept saying "I have to admit, that's not bad, but I'll never buy one of these cars." After he repeated his statement "I'll never buy one of these cars" a few times, I had to ask, "Why do you feel that way?" "Because Lee Iacocca may have saved Chrysler, but he did it on the backs of my union brothers and sisters, that's why! He made the average working guy take a pay cut. I have not use for any company that doesn't hire union help at decent wages." And with that, he climbed back into his (Japanese built, pre-factory in the US) Toyota Corolla and drove out into the night. :-) Most people's idealism is as long as a direct line from their mouth to their wallet. No longer. |
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Harry,
This I agree with! "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Wal-Mart shares fall on poor holiday sales Published: November 28 2004 19:25 | Last updated: November 29 2004 16:59 Shares in Wal-Mart fell more than three per cent in New York on Monday, after the giant discount retailer cut its forecast for November same-store sales growth to just 0.7 per cent, citing poor performance over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend. The world's largest retailer had estimated November year-on-year growth of 2 to 4 per cent just 10 days ago. But Wal-Mart revised its estimates down on Saturday evening after disappointing sales on “Black Friday”, the day after Thanksgiving - so called because it is traditionally the time retailers move into profit for the year. It is an indicator of spending for the holiday season, when a quarter of annual retail sales are rung up. Wal-Mart said sales had fallen “below plan” in the last week of November and sales growth was down on the 2.8 per cent annual rate it had reported for October. What's bad for Wal-Mart is good for civilization. -- A passing thought: "Obviously, I pray every day there's less casualty." —George W. Bush, Fort Hood, Texas, April 11, 2004 |
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![]() "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... any time I am in Wal-Mart I see all kinds of hypocrite union people... You all badmouth the capitalist and the freemarket but your the first to flock to these box stores to save ten cents on an item Funny, related incident: I was selling cars in a Chrysler dealership when Lee Iacocca saved the company. As Chrysler was moving from intensive care to general bed rest, a guy stopped by the dealership one day and said, "Show me one of these K Cars everybody is taling about." We checked out every feature of the car, and the prospect kept saying "I have to admit, that's not bad, but I'll never buy one of these cars." After he repeated his statement "I'll never buy one of these cars" a few times, I had to ask, "Why do you feel that way?" "Because Lee Iacocca may have saved Chrysler, but he did it on the backs of my union brothers and sisters, that's why! He made the average working guy take a pay cut. I have not use for any company that doesn't hire union help at decent wages." And with that, he climbed back into his (Japanese built, pre-factory in the US) Toyota Corolla and drove out into the night. :-) Most people's idealism is as long as a direct line from their mouth to their wallet. No longer. There's a car salesman in Maryland telling the exact same story...except the guy climbed back into his non-union made Toyota Tundra and drove off to the marina across town to launch his non-union-made Parker boat powered by its non-union-made Yamaha outboard. |
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How did Lee Iacocca save Chrysler on the backs of the worker?
I realize I am probably your junior and don't know his strategies as well as yourself but any restructuring has to be painful in every direction. Look at the pilots in the airlines now. Come on, the local union guys in my areas have some pretty ridiculous compensation packages. I could entertain you with the dozens of fringes each gets but you probably already know. I feel that is what pulled the trigger for the race off to more friendlier work force. Just too dam expensive, you drove inflation up far too quickly for an economic correction to occur. Ya,, I am all for you making a decent, fair, good, comfortable wage but it has to be market driven and equal to the surroundings. Now your blaming Wal-Mart for what you forced. I think Wal-Mart's success is their present business strategies including extensive supply chain management, they really just rent space. The facts are that Lee Iacocca was successful, Wal-Mart is successful, so try not to let the facts get in the way of your argument..... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... any time I am in Wal-Mart I see all kinds of hypocrite union people... You all badmouth the capitalist and the freemarket but your the first to flock to these box stores to save ten cents on an item Funny, related incident: I was selling cars in a Chrysler dealership when Lee Iacocca saved the company. As Chrysler was moving from intensive care to general bed rest, a guy stopped by the dealership one day and said, "Show me one of these K Cars everybody is taling about." We checked out every feature of the car, and the prospect kept saying "I have to admit, that's not bad, but I'll never buy one of these cars." After he repeated his statement "I'll never buy one of these cars" a few times, I had to ask, "Why do you feel that way?" "Because Lee Iacocca may have saved Chrysler, but he did it on the backs of my union brothers and sisters, that's why! He made the average working guy take a pay cut. I have not use for any company that doesn't hire union help at decent wages." And with that, he climbed back into his (Japanese built, pre-factory in the US) Toyota Corolla and drove out into the night. :-) Most people's idealism is as long as a direct line from their mouth to their wallet. No longer. |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Tuuk wrote: Harry See what your union brothers have done to America? I am surprised actually that it took you so long to figure out,,, You can thank yourself and your union brotherhood for what is happening in the west but any time I am in Wal-Mart I see all kinds of hypocrite union people... You all badmouth the capitalist and the freemarket but your the first to flock to these box stores to save ten cents on an item that you could buy Made in U.S.A. but you don't support your local union brotherhood of highly paid flunky monkeys... Sorry...I don't shop at Wal-Mart, and neither do any of the union people I know. Never did like the place. But it seems to be your kind of place. You are too funny! |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Tuuk wrote: Harry See what your union brothers have done to America? I am surprised actually that it took you so long to figure out,,, You can thank yourself and your union brotherhood for what is happening in the west but any time I am in Wal-Mart I see all kinds of hypocrite union people... You all badmouth the capitalist and the freemarket but your the first to flock to these box stores to save ten cents on an item that you could buy Made in U.S.A. but you don't support your local union brotherhood of highly paid flunky monkeys... Sorry...I don't shop at Wal-Mart, and neither do any of the union people I know. Never did like the place. But it seems to be your kind of place. You are too funny! Really? Out where I live some few months ago, the locals prevailed upon the county board to deny Wal-Mart a permit to build one of its monster stores, and the union members down here, and there are lots of them, mostly in the more skilled building trades, living in this area, played a major support role in the activities leading up to and surrounding the hearings. You and your union thugs have wittingly contributed to the increased cost of basic goods needed by the middle and lower wage earners and their families residing in your county. Up here in the PRMC we have a Wal-Mart along with several Target stores and Kohl's, Best Buy and even Kmart. We recognized the service to the community that stores that provide value perform. |
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How did Lee Iacocca save Chrysler on the backs of the worker?
I didn't say that he did. Please do try to keep up. I said I met a guy diving a Japanese built Toyota who told me that he couldn't buy a Chrysler product because of the was Iacocca treated the unions. Iacocca was a very shrewd guy. No question. I always admired him. |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Tuuk wrote: Harry See what your union brothers have done to America? I am surprised actually that it took you so long to figure out,,, You can thank yourself and your union brotherhood for what is happening in the west but any time I am in Wal-Mart I see all kinds of hypocrite union people... You all badmouth the capitalist and the freemarket but your the first to flock to these box stores to save ten cents on an item that you could buy Made in U.S.A. but you don't support your local union brotherhood of highly paid flunky monkeys... Sorry...I don't shop at Wal-Mart, and neither do any of the union people I know. Never did like the place. But it seems to be your kind of place. You are too funny! Really? Out where I live some few months ago, the locals prevailed upon the county board to deny Wal-Mart a permit to build one of its monster stores, and the union members down here, and there are lots of them, mostly in the more skilled building trades, living in this area, played a major support role in the activities leading up to and surrounding the hearings. You and your union thugs have wittingly contributed to the increased cost of basic goods needed by the middle and lower wage earners and their families residing in your county. Up here in the PRMC we have a Wal-Mart along with several Target stores and Kohl's, Best Buy and even Kmart. We recognized the service to the community that stores that provide value perform. Wal-Mart is a predatory merchant and employer, and provides no service to any community. It drives local businesses out of business, underpays and exploits its employees, and forces many of them to seek public assistance when they need health care. "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" not over-payed, health care and retirement. |
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Harry ,, you missed your own point...
Most would agree with you that Wal-Mart should not have even been allowed to set up its so efficient operations in the west and peddle the China products as it has done damage to an economy with an already known fate. A known fate because of you and your local brotherhood. So your barking the wrong story there Harry, give the credit where credit is due. You are blaming Wal-Mart for being smart, efficient and profit hungry,, Well, what about your union brotherhood who are just as vicious, selfish and greedy. You and your union bro deserve more of the credit for destroying today's economy than these local box stores. There was a need for these stores, there was a demand for them, yet there was not a need for the union to continue on as long as it did or as strong as it did or as damaging as it did. Unions did their thing and that was good but they went too far and too long. I think it is most obvious that non union products are far better value wise than union made products, especially automobiles, but most products bought at Wal-Mart (near 85%) are made in China and are cheaper, better quality and more available than anything made over here. If you and your unions are so wonderful, then how did you allow this to happen, do you think the government should have implemented import quotas to control the influx of offshore products to protect your union jobs again? Forcing no Wal-Marts and the consumer to pay 3 times the price for a product so you can have all those ridiculous fringes that you have now that you do not earn? Once again there Harry,, you make a pretty good argument but you have a problem with facts,,,, "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Tuuk wrote: Harry See what your union brothers have done to America? I am surprised actually that it took you so long to figure out,,, You can thank yourself and your union brotherhood for what is happening in the west but any time I am in Wal-Mart I see all kinds of hypocrite union people... You all badmouth the capitalist and the freemarket but your the first to flock to these box stores to save ten cents on an item that you could buy Made in U.S.A. but you don't support your local union brotherhood of highly paid flunky monkeys... Sorry...I don't shop at Wal-Mart, and neither do any of the union people I know. Never did like the place. But it seems to be your kind of place. You are too funny! Really? Out where I live some few months ago, the locals prevailed upon the county board to deny Wal-Mart a permit to build one of its monster stores, and the union members down here, and there are lots of them, mostly in the more skilled building trades, living in this area, played a major support role in the activities leading up to and surrounding the hearings. You and your union thugs have wittingly contributed to the increased cost of basic goods needed by the middle and lower wage earners and their families residing in your county. Up here in the PRMC we have a Wal-Mart along with several Target stores and Kohl's, Best Buy and even Kmart. We recognized the service to the community that stores that provide value perform. Wal-Mart is a predatory merchant and employer, and provides no service to any community. It drives local businesses out of business, underpays and exploits its employees, and forces many of them to seek public assistance when they need health care. -- A passing thought: "And if you're interested in the quality of education and you're paying attention to what you hear at Laclede, why don't you volunteer? Why don't you mentor a child how to read?" —George W. Bush, St. Louis, Mo., Jan. 5, 2004 |
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![]() "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Tuuk wrote: Harry See what your union brothers have done to America? I am surprised actually that it took you so long to figure out,,, You can thank yourself and your union brotherhood for what is happening in the west but any time I am in Wal-Mart I see all kinds of hypocrite union people... You all badmouth the capitalist and the freemarket but your the first to flock to these box stores to save ten cents on an item that you could buy Made in U.S.A. but you don't support your local union brotherhood of highly paid flunky monkeys... Sorry...I don't shop at Wal-Mart, and neither do any of the union people I know. Never did like the place. But it seems to be your kind of place. You are too funny! Really? Out where I live some few months ago, the locals prevailed upon the county board to deny Wal-Mart a permit to build one of its monster stores, and the union members down here, and there are lots of them, mostly in the more skilled building trades, living in this area, played a major support role in the activities leading up to and surrounding the hearings. You and your union thugs have wittingly contributed to the increased cost of basic goods needed by the middle and lower wage earners and their families residing in your county. Up here in the PRMC we have a Wal-Mart along with several Target stores and Kohl's, Best Buy and even Kmart. We recognized the service to the community that stores that provide value perform. Wal-Mart is a predatory merchant and employer, and provides no service to any community. It drives local businesses out of business, underpays and exploits its employees, and forces many of them to seek public assistance when they need health care. "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" not over-payed, health care and retirement. The purpose of a corporation is NOT to provide jobs, healthcare, or to promote competing businesses,.......something the liebrals routinely forget. |
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