"del cecchi" wrote in message
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Your articles in BWB are always interesting.



Thanks for the kind words, Del.

Did read my story "Duke of Oil" from earlier last year, March I think, that
tested the different outboard 4-stroke oils and compared them to car oils?
That story took a lot of research and ruffled a few feathers. It was turned
in for a technical writing award.

If you are going to look for old backissues for the FICHT fixes, etc., try
Trailer Boats (also Jim Barron) and Boating Magazine. Sal****er Sportsman
may have had one also. It was 5 or 6 years back.

Bill Grannis
service manager

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:18:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Billgran wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:03:50 +1100, "K. Smith"
wrote:

One in three failed yes. However it was not a mechanical failure





Where did you get the figure 1 in 3 failed?

It was David Jones the then president of OMC that told a news conference
that 1 in 5 1998 25" shaft FICHTS had problems. I reported that quote here
on the newsgroup back then.

Bill Grannis
service manager



By the time Karen Smith of Oz posts her last slam on these engines, just
before she kicks the bucket, the percentage will have been upped to 15
out of every 10.

The one out of five, by the way, was not an accurate statistic. It was
just a WAG based upon some data at that particular point.

It's kind of humorous that so much time has been devoted to a statistic
mainly "promoted" by anonymous or semi-anonymous (but
pseudo-knowledgeable) "experts" posting in a newsgroup. When it comes to
matters highly technical, if the person making the posit cannot be
identified by name, field of work, reputation, employment and
publicatons, I tend to dismiss it. There are too many out there with a
hidden agenda or an ax to grind.

I would like to retract what I said of Karen, and apoligize. Karen is
in fact smarter than I, and is indeed an "expert" in many aspects of
boating.

I am sorry.

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 06:30:00 -0500, " Tuuuk"
wrote:

LOL,,,

krause,,, you sure owned a lot of boats,,, in your dreams,, lol,,,

you can always tell when krause is embarrassed by getting caught in a lie,,
he flings back with ridiculous insults,,, lol,,,, krause,, you are a real
winner,,,

at least when I post about you,,it is exactly what you yourself have said,,,
lol,,,, You know,, about all the lies,, very **** poor family relations for
a family law expert,,, and I like to remind you of the lies you post,,,
lol,,,

My name is Elmer J. Fudd, I own a yacht, and am a millionaire.

While the truth is that, I have never actually owned a boat, I did
ride on one once.

And lie? Why do you think I dont archive my posts?

Billgran wrote:
"Del Cecchi" wrote in message
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Yamaha problems? Are they having HPDI problems? The information is still
not reaching the general public. There was just a 300 HPDI article in
Bass and Walleye boats, and I don't recall so much as a hint of any
problems.



Like the '98-'99 FICHT problems, the Yamaha 300 problems only affect certain
applications, mostly offshore fishing boats. It does not affect the
freshwater bass boat motors. Part of the problem is salt water intrusion,
but the "fix" takes 12 to 15 hours to do, and it is a whole series of
changes, including wiring harness, ECU, adding a reverse switch, etc. and
can only be done by factory approved locations. They are not fixing all at
this time, just the offshore folks on certain makes of boats. You can read
all about it and some horror stories (as usual) on various web sites and
forum. It is also known in the trade journals. Use Google.



Read this also Tom than apply what we say about these things, high end
of lean burn mode??? Nose high ploughing along??? suddenly accelerate at
the end of the no wak zone???

If you buy E-Tec I want it noted:-)

K

This lying idiot has manufactured a story about his father being
the biggest OMC dealer on the US NE coast, needless to say Krause then
says that's where he learned all he obviously doesn't know about boats:-)

Here's just one of the lies from the "father" series, try to
remember he's talking $3000000 in the 70s!! Honestly it's embarrassing
that a grown man would lie like this I guess that's the standard of
union thugs ???


I sold off nearly $3,000,000 in new motors and boats, depressing
the new boat
industry in southern Connecticut for an entire season. Everything
was sold...every cotter pin, every quart of oil, 30 days after I started.
For near full-retail, too.




FOR 2000, the FICHT system was improved quite a bit and called FICHT
Ram, and really did well. It was quieter and smoother than the earlier
series, and was better on fuel use. In 2001 they came out with a new
block, the 3.3L and it is still used today, and that really made the
motors perform even better while the hp increased to 250. These
versions are still being produced today.

So what did they change? As an engineer I am interested in stuff like
that.



The combustion process at 15% power was changed so all cylinders did not
switch over from stratified to homogenous mode all at once. This smoothed
the engine operation in that range (while the boat is plowing, and not on
plane yet) and cut down on the sooting of the rings which caused most of the
engine problems. There was a lot written about the re-engineered FICHTS and
the new EMM's that replaced older ECU's, 40 volt systems vs. 24volts,
exhaust pressure sensors, etc. Look for back issues of various boating
magazines in the library or do a lot of searching with Google. There was a
lot of information put out back then. An Australian boating magazine had a
very good article about the technical changes, but of course Karen didn't
believe any of it.

Bill Grannis
service manager

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 18:27:57 +1100, "K. Smith"
wrote:

Billgran wrote:
"Del Cecchi" wrote in message
...

Yamaha problems? Are they having HPDI problems? The information is still
not reaching the general public. There was just a 300 HPDI article in
Bass and Walleye boats, and I don't recall so much as a hint of any
problems.



Like the '98-'99 FICHT problems, the Yamaha 300 problems only affect certain
applications, mostly offshore fishing boats. It does not affect the
freshwater bass boat motors. Part of the problem is salt water intrusion,
but the "fix" takes 12 to 15 hours to do, and it is a whole series of
changes, including wiring harness, ECU, adding a reverse switch, etc. and
can only be done by factory approved locations. They are not fixing all at
this time, just the offshore folks on certain makes of boats. You can read
all about it and some horror stories (as usual) on various web sites and
forum. It is also known in the trade journals. Use Google.



Read this also Tom than apply what we say about these things, high end
of lean burn mode??? Nose high ploughing along??? suddenly accelerate at
the end of the no wak zone???

If you buy E-Tec I want it noted:-)

I already have.

Later,

Tom

lid wrote:
On 2/4/05, Del Cecchi wrote:

I have one of the 115. Been ok.


Sooooo yours hasn't had the extreme shakes/vibration at low rpm that I
described?
To be fair, the one I've used isn't a typical use outboard. It's a
yacht club chase boat (used mainly for teaching sailing as well as
race committee work) and spends most of its life idling in neutral or
idling in gear, then occasionally blasting off full tilt boogie for a
mile or two, then idling in neutral again for the longest. Also gets
pressed into service for towing on occasion. Maybe that explains why a
tune up just doesn't last more than one outing before it starts
shakin' the bejeebees outta the boat and passengers again.

Thanks to all up the thread for the responses though. I had been told
it was a fuel saving measure. I never did buy that one. Makes more
sense to me now.

Rick

It shakes, although I wouldn't consider it extreme. I troll sometimes
with it and it isn't annoying particularily. Whatever is being done in
the "tune up" sounds like it isn't particularily effective if it only
lasts a few hours. I wonder if there isn't some other problem that the
tune up makes go away for a short time, like a bad plug wire that a new
set of plugs cures for awhile. Or something like that.

del cecchi