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JohnH,
"D70" That explains it!!! :-) Paul "JohnH" wrote in message ... snipped It was a present from the wife. A Nikon D70 with the 28-70mm zoom. It's sold as the Nikon D70 outfit. snipped John H |
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Doug,
I can understand how you feel. I work as an electrician, for Ford at the Romeo Engine Plant. I hired in the in 1989. Since we were building the engine plant we went to a lot of classes. We learned that Ford changed its way of doing business because of the Japanese. What you say is completely true and very embarrassing. They're whole focus was on numbers, we've since learnt different. Today quality is the first priority. Anyone can stop the line if something is wrong. No we're not perfect but we sure as hell are trying. The union has a quality rep that you can call if you feel quality is being ignored. A lot of the members of upper management in the plant come and go as they move up the ladder. But we as members of an engine building team will either prosper or fail with this plant are here for the long term. The product that we deliver to you determines our future. I assure you that the majority of us are very concerned with quality. Doug, I appo;igize about the past and hope you check us out in the future. Paul "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... snipped How can you not understand? Millions of people got ****ed up the ass by the American car makers. Those memories don't fade for many, many years. Toyota offers cars that are damned close to perfect. Unless you require a "niche car" like the one you bought, why gamble with an American car? My brother in law used to bitch at me about how I was costing Americans jobs by buying Japanese. My response was simple: My second Ford was in the shop 5 times in the first year (1975). My boss read me the riot act: Find a way to get to work, or work somewhere else. In other words, the Ford was about to cost me MY job. When it finally died, I bought a Toyota. My logic: If American engineers can't build a car correctly, they deserve to lose their jobs. It's an interesting phenomenon in America: Pick 10 products, one of them being a cars. For each product, ask 10,000 people what should happen to the manufacturers of those products if they're poorly built for years on end. For 9 of the products, people will say what they should: The manufacturers should go out of business. For cars, they'll cut the manufacturers a ridiculous amount of slack. It's as if cars have some sort of religious status. I makes no sense at all. |
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Harry,
That's because they has "Lucas" Princess of Darkness. Paul "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:1104617381.e86fbd8d20d41bc5074696536c9841dd@t eranews... snipped I prefer sports cars with a little flair... Like old Jags or Healeys, or a Fiat Abarth...they run at least half the time and look good on the side of the road with the bonnet raised! |
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![]() "Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast dot net wrote in message ... Harry, That's because they has "Lucas" Princess of Darkness. Paul Hi Paul: That's the truth! Many years ago, I owned a Vauxhall Victor Rally Car and that damn car never ran more than 100 kilometers in the rain without something in the electric parts system quitting. It was the worst car that I have ever owned. I now have a Chevy TrailBlazer and I just love it. Jim Carter "The Boat" Bayfield |
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Harry,
I've seen ads in car magazines ( Motor Trend, Car & Driver) for a XKE replica made in the States with a 283 Chevy engine. Might be something to look into. Paul "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:1104621799.dd5bd542ac1921775b911ffc774cf76c@t eranews... snipped I've been looking at a very good E-Type replica made in Australia, and when I say very good, I mean that. Actually, it is better than the E-Type in many mechanical ways. Take a look: http://www.temperocars.com/ Take a look at the D Jag on that site..I love it. |
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 17:56:54 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: Southern Tier Rivers - Warmer temperatures and rain have cleared out much of the flow ice from the rivers. If you can get out in a boat, vertical jigging with a medium sized minnow in the deeper holes should be very productive for walleye. Casting a jig and minnow from shore should also work well in the coming days. Doug, today I was behind three Mustangs on different occasions. I noticed nothing remarkable. Perhaps I'm just brain addled. Or, perhaps *I'm* not. John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
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I almost did buy one two years ago - a Crown Victoria, since I wanted a rear
wheel drive car for towing. I would've preferred that car to my pickup truck because the gas mileage was about 25% better. But then, I read about the feature that wasn't in the brochu The thing about the exploding gas tank and rear-end collisions. I realize other cars may have this problem, but that fact had no bearing on my decision. I may look again in the future, but only after finding out if the issue has been dealt with. Police departments are happy to dispense this information. "Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast dot net wrote in message ... Doug, I can understand how you feel. I work as an electrician, for Ford at the Romeo Engine Plant. I hired in the in 1989. Since we were building the engine plant we went to a lot of classes. We learned that Ford changed its way of doing business because of the Japanese. What you say is completely true and very embarrassing. They're whole focus was on numbers, we've since learnt different. Today quality is the first priority. Anyone can stop the line if something is wrong. No we're not perfect but we sure as hell are trying. The union has a quality rep that you can call if you feel quality is being ignored. A lot of the members of upper management in the plant come and go as they move up the ladder. But we as members of an engine building team will either prosper or fail with this plant are here for the long term. The product that we deliver to you determines our future. I assure you that the majority of us are very concerned with quality. Doug, I appo;igize about the past and hope you check us out in the future. Paul "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... snipped How can you not understand? Millions of people got ****ed up the ass by the American car makers. Those memories don't fade for many, many years. Toyota offers cars that are damned close to perfect. Unless you require a "niche car" like the one you bought, why gamble with an American car? My brother in law used to bitch at me about how I was costing Americans jobs by buying Japanese. My response was simple: My second Ford was in the shop 5 times in the first year (1975). My boss read me the riot act: Find a way to get to work, or work somewhere else. In other words, the Ford was about to cost me MY job. When it finally died, I bought a Toyota. My logic: If American engineers can't build a car correctly, they deserve to lose their jobs. It's an interesting phenomenon in America: Pick 10 products, one of them being a cars. For each product, ask 10,000 people what should happen to the manufacturers of those products if they're poorly built for years on end. For 9 of the products, people will say what they should: The manufacturers should go out of business. For cars, they'll cut the manufacturers a ridiculous amount of slack. It's as if cars have some sort of religious status. I makes no sense at all. |
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:25:38 -0500, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast dot net wrote: JohnH, "D70" That explains it!!! :-) Paul "JohnH" wrote in message .. . snipped It was a present from the wife. A Nikon D70 with the 28-70mm zoom. It's sold as the Nikon D70 outfit. snipped John H It's a great camera. I'd recommend it to anyone. John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: I almost did buy one two years ago - a Crown Victoria, since I wanted a rear wheel drive car for towing. I would've preferred that car to my pickup truck because the gas mileage was about 25% better. But then, I read about the feature that wasn't in the brochu The thing about the exploding gas tank and rear-end collisions. I realize other cars may have this problem, but that fact had no bearing on my decision. I may look again in the future, but only after finding out if the issue has been dealt with. Police departments are happy to dispense this information. "Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast dot net wrote in message ... Doug, I can understand how you feel. I work as an electrician, for Ford at the Romeo Engine Plant. I hired in the in 1989. Since we were building the engine plant we went to a lot of classes. We learned that Ford changed its way of doing business because of the Japanese. What you say is completely true and very embarrassing. They're whole focus was on numbers, we've since learnt different. Today quality is the first priority. Anyone can stop the line if something is wrong. No we're not perfect but we sure as hell are trying. The union has a quality rep that you can call if you feel quality is being ignored. A lot of the members of upper management in the plant come and go as they move up the ladder. But we as members of an engine building team will either prosper or fail with this plant are here for the long term. The product that we deliver to you determines our future. I assure you that the majority of us are very concerned with quality. Doug, I appo;igize about the past and hope you check us out in the future. Paul "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... snipped How can you not understand? Millions of people got ****ed up the ass by the American car makers. Those memories don't fade for many, many years. Toyota offers cars that are damned close to perfect. Unless you require a "niche car" like the one you bought, why gamble with an American car? My brother in law used to bitch at me about how I was costing Americans jobs by buying Japanese. My response was simple: My second Ford was in the shop 5 times in the first year (1975). My boss read me the riot act: Find a way to get to work, or work somewhere else. In other words, the Ford was about to cost me MY job. When it finally died, I bought a Toyota. My logic: If American engineers can't build a car correctly, they deserve to lose their jobs. It's an interesting phenomenon in America: Pick 10 products, one of them being a cars. For each product, ask 10,000 people what should happen to the manufacturers of those products if they're poorly built for years on end. For 9 of the products, people will say what they should: The manufacturers should go out of business. For cars, they'll cut the manufacturers a ridiculous amount of slack. It's as if cars have some sort of religious status. I makes no sense at all. The Crown Vic was my favorite US full-sized car, until that "defect" came to light. A friend has the small Caddy whatever, and it's a pretty nice car. Ford has a new sedan, the 500 something, that looks kind of interesting. Most of the GM cars I've been in leave much to be desired, and the Chrysler products are pretty grim. In the car lines, I think it is tough to beat Toyota, and it doesn't matter where they are assembled. But I think the full-size Ford and Chevy trucks are aces. And for $50,000, there is nothing around to equal the Corvette. I looked at a Dodge intrepid, but as I mentioned elsewhere, pieces were falling off the dash. Even funnier, though: I asked the sales thing "Is this front or rear wheel drive?" He said "Hmmm.....it's probably one or the other. Why do you need to know?" Down the center stage trapdoor with him. :-) |
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![]() "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Jack Goff" wrote: What's the info? That he install equipment there, and can only tell you things he's seen at one or two Ford or Chrysler plants? That he has no info on the scene at Toyota or any other plants? Let me guess... he is a big Toyota or GM or brand X fan, and only sees what he (and his ego) wants to see? 6 plants, so far. Where did you get 1 or 2 from? Try reading for content. "What's the info?" That means you gave no initial info, and I'm asking for more. "That he install equipment there, and can only tell you things he's seen at one or two Ford or Chrysler plants?" The question mark at the end signifies that I'm asking a question, not making a statement. It's a possible scenario to your mysterious situation. Got it now? The purchaser of the CNC equipment can specify, within a certain range, how tightly they want to limit tolerances. That's a mechanical adjustment. No, it's a designed-in ability of the CNC machine to be able to hold, and repeat said tolerance. It's a mechanical adjustment to setup the machine initially to perfom correctly, and to re-adjust or fix it when it wears enough to lose its accuracy. After engine parts are made, each manufacturer decides what's considered a rejected part, and what gets used. This is a management decision. The difference between what Toyota will accept and what Ford, Chrysler and GM will accept does not fall into the category of "negligible". If you think this is obtuse, let me know in your next post. Still fairly obtuse. What is said CNC equipment being used to manufacture? Pistons at Toyota and alternator brackets at Ford? You do realize that there would be a *huge* difference in the pass/fail parameters for different types of parts, right? And lets not forget about the fact that the *design* of the overall gizmo (engine, brake caliper, etc...) determines what tolerances need to be kept, and those acceptable tolerance ranges aren't an indication of quality in and of themselves. Also, management does not decide what is acceptable to be used in a design. Engineering gives them the ranges to use, and management enforces that. If the range is too tight to be cost effectively manufactured, a re-design is indicated. Besides, you do realize that Ford and Toyota don't make their own pistons, right? They each have hundreds of suppliers, each making some unique part they specialize in. For example, the Wiseco company could, and probably does, make pistons for both Ford and Toyota USA. Is your ass not getting tired of talking? Have another drink, Kanter. (note to Kanter... you didn't say pistons... I'm using them as an example... Reading Comprehension 101) |
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