"jps" wrote in message
...

Dean has that straight-talk gene that so many people admire in Bush, but
has an agenda and plan that likely fits with most American's concerns.

Not to mention the "able to talk" gene.

"Decal Pest" wrote in message
...
I remember another Bush riding high in 1991 after another war with
Iraq... even early-mid 1992 despite the soft economy looked like he was
undefeatable. Remember him? What happened to him and his goofy sidekick?


Clinton was a young smart candidate with all the answers who
appeared to have done his homework and then some. He made
Bush look bad in the debates. Oh ya, the big 3 networks didn't like
41 either.

You got nothing like that now. Unless Edwards pulls something spectacular.
I doubt it.

db

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 23:57:14 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll
http://snipurl.com/3owx

If former Vermont Governor Howard Dean were the Democratic
Party's candidate and George W. Bush were the Republican Party's
candidate, who would you be more likely to vote for ?

Bush 59%
Dean 37%

BFD, as we all know the American public doesn't know Dean yet.

It's like all the reports that Bush has outraised each of the Democrats
by multiple factors. They seem to forget that money is being spread
around to all the Dems and no one person is yet representative of the
Democratic candidate.

None of this matters and it won't for several more months. Once a
candidate is chosen and Bush's record questioned against a Dem plan,
we'll know a hell of a lot more.

I don't believe Jesus has actually had a conversation with Pat
Robertson, at least not about the outcome of the election.

jps

If those who are going to vote for Dean don't know him yet (that
portion of the American public to which you refer), then I sure hope
Dean doesn't use any big words to woo them away from "The Simpsons"
long enough to get to the polls and vote.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H wrote:

If those who are going to vote for Dean don't know him yet (that
portion of the American public to which you refer), then I sure hope
Dean doesn't use any big words to woo them away from "The Simpsons"
long enough to get to the polls and vote.

It's statements like this that almost convince me that maybe you *do* belong
with Nobby and Wallie and the other retardo-fascists infesting this
newsgroup.

DSK

thunder wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:26:48 +0000, WaIIy wrote:

CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll
http://snipurl.com/3owx

Funny, but the Bush campaign doesn't seem as cocky about the election as
you do Wally.

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics...tics-headlines

I'd also point out, Bush I had poll numbers very similar to these after
the Gulf War. I seem to recall that he was defeated by a Governor from
one of our smaller states. I would suggest gloating about a potential
win may be somewhat premature.

I'm not quite sure why the original poster here thinks the poll would
have any impact on me. Hardly anyone in the country has any real idea
about Howard Dean or any of the rest of potential Democratric nominees
at this point. Hell, I know next to nothing about Dean myself, and I'm a
party activist.

At this point, it doesn't matter to me which of the frontrunners gets
the Democratic nod. All of them are smarter than Bush and would make a
better President of the United States.

Bush can be beaten.

What it will take is for the Democratic party to unite and pound Bush
every single day on every single issue, and separately float out
pragmatic Democratic alternatives to the Bush policies of pay-offs to
the rich and right.

There is no end to the list of areas in which Bush has failed, and
failed miserably.

We have an opportunity to send Dumbfoch Bush back to Texas next January
for his retirement. It's up to us to make sure that happens.


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On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:00:19 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:

If those who are going to vote for Dean don't know him yet (that
portion of the American public to which you refer), then I sure hope
Dean doesn't use any big words to woo them away from "The Simpsons"
long enough to get to the polls and vote.

It's statements like this that almost convince me that maybe you *do* belong
with Nobby and Wallie and the other retardo-fascists infesting this
newsgroup.

DSK

May I refer you to jps remark? He's the one who said, "BFD, as we all
know the American public doesn't know Dean yet."

If this is true, then the proposed Dean electorate has absented
themselves from any sort of news for several months.

How then does my comment convince you of anything, especially to the
point of name-calling? What did you find so offensive?


John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 23:57:14 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll
http://snipurl.com/3owx

If former Vermont Governor Howard Dean were the Democratic
Party's candidate and George W. Bush were the Republican Party's
candidate, who would you be more likely to vote for ?

Bush 59%
Dean 37%

BFD, as we all know the American public doesn't know Dean yet.

It's like all the reports that Bush has outraised each of the Democrats
by multiple factors. They seem to forget that money is being spread
around to all the Dems and no one person is yet representative of the
Democratic candidate.

None of this matters and it won't for several more months. Once a
candidate is chosen and Bush's record questioned against a Dem plan,
we'll know a hell of a lot more.

I don't believe Jesus has actually had a conversation with Pat
Robertson, at least not about the outcome of the election.

jps

If those who are going to vote for Dean don't know him yet (that
portion of the American public to which you refer), then I sure hope
Dean doesn't use any big words to woo them away from "The Simpsons"
long enough to get to the polls and vote.

John H

Really? I don't know much about Dean yet, nor have I met him. I don't
know that he is going to be the Democratic nominee. If he is, however, I
expect a very, very interesting campaign that will have Dubya Dumfoch
playing hardball defense.


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Doug Kanter wrote:

Great. She's gotten herself another packet and a nice clean syringe, and
she's back.

What's a socialist, you mouldy sack of crap? How is it possible that the
word fits into virtually every single message you post?



Clean syringe? You've seen the photo of its boat? It doesn't use a clean
syringe.


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DSK wrote:
John H wrote:


May I refer you to jps remark? He's the one who said, "BFD, as we all
know the American public doesn't know Dean yet."

If this is true, then the proposed Dean electorate has absented
themselves from any sort of news for several months.

Actually, most of what I have heard about Dean has been the right wing smear
campaign against him, parrotted here in this newsgroup.



How then does my comment convince you of anything, especially to the
point of name-calling?

Did I call you names, other than to associate you with Nobby & Wallie? Is that so
offensive to you?

It would me.




What did you find so offensive?

Actually, none of the 'discussion' here has the power to offend me. It just
seemed slightly out of character for you to indulge in the same kind of mindless
mudslinging.

DSK


That's his stock in trade, actually.


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John H wrote:


May I refer you to jps remark? He's the one who said, "BFD, as we all
know the American public doesn't know Dean yet."

If this is true, then the proposed Dean electorate has absented
themselves from any sort of news for several months.

Actually, most of what I have heard about Dean has been the right wing smear
campaign against him, parrotted here in this newsgroup.



How then does my comment convince you of anything, especially to the
point of name-calling?

Did I call you names, other than to associate you with Nobby & Wallie? Is that so
offensive to you?


What did you find so offensive?

Actually, none of the 'discussion' here has the power to offend me. It just
seemed slightly out of character for you to indulge in the same kind of mindless
mudslinging.

DSK