Try NPR...

I listen to NPR regularly.

Tell me, when do I tune in to hear the hosts denigrate all conservatives as
"traitors"? When should I listen to hear dozens of "Yep, me toos" from the
listening audience? Can't believe I'm missing all this hateful stuff boradcast
on NPR.

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 08:10:42 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 07:24:02 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:

What's so much different this time? Is it just that the ideals of liberals
and conservatives have become so polarized? Is it that liberals have
finally amassed a loud enough voice to make enough waves to be felt?

Liberals and conservatives have always been polarized, it's the center
that hasn't been. In my mind, what makes this election different,
especially if Dean is the Democratic candidate, the center will have to
make a decision, go left or go right. Neither of these candidates are
moderates. Bush is very conservative, and Dean is very liberal.

I don't think that mainstream America is ready for a liberal. Liberals
downplay those values and morals that most of the heartland live by.




You still seem to have a problem differentiating a difference in
political ideology with "hate". I have seen nothing that could be
construed as "hate". Just because conservatives do not hold the same value
sets as liberals does not mean that they "hate" anyone. That you would
categorize as such speaks volumes about your bias.

I know too many conservatives to think that hate is a conservative value,
but I will say this, most of the hateful, racist people I know, call
themselves "conservative".

I would call them "intolerant".

Think about this though. If there were an element in society that you
could statistically track, and could link this same element to a
definite decline in living standard, or quality of life, and you spoke
out against it, based on your evidence, would that make you "Hateful"?
Since when do we have to tolerate every element or trend in society?

Dave

Do you have some call letters of a radio station that broadcasts the left wing
equivalent of Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, and the rest? I'd like to know where
you hear the left "do the same" as the right.

Dave Hall wrote:
Try NPR...

That's great Dave.... remember, it's only "fair and balanced" if it promotes the
illogical bigotry & fascism that are nearest & dearest to your heart.



Kudos, though: Like NOYB you are willing to admit that the right at least does
it "too"

I disagree with your characterization of conservative talk radio as
"Hate".

Wait a minute, in your last post didn't you say "if it quacks like a duck, call it
a duck"?

I don't think Gould0738 was trying to characterize all conservative talk radio as
"hate radio" just the ones that are hate-filled. Like the ones that denounce
liberals as traitors (among other hateful accusations)....



Just because you can't counter the points made in a logical
fashion, and it bothers you, doesn't make the content "Hateful".

Actually, I and others have countered many (at least, all the ones I've cared to
read) of your points in sensible, factual, logical fashion... but you have refused
to learn anything at all in the years you've been ranting on this NG.

God bless you for never changing, Dave! You're like a rock!

DSK

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

Will someone please teach this puta how to edit?

Doug, what is a "puta"? It is not in my dictionary! I would like to know
what you are calling a person, in english, please.

Thanks,

Jim Carter
"The Boat"
Bayfield

That the left refers to the presentation of an opposing opinion as
"Hate" is what I find most offensive.

Opposing opinion is fine. When that "opinion" becomes, "In my opinion, anybody
who disagrees with Bush is a tratior. In my opinion, the liberals in this
country are all out to coddle terrorists." etc
that becomes hate speech. An opinion is
"I believe the current policy in Iraq is a good one because........" The
statement, "All liberals should be given a one-way ticket out of the United
States to improve our national security" may be an opinion- but it's also hate
speech.

Whore, en Español.

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...

I don't think that mainstream America is ready for a liberal. Liberals
downplay those values and morals that most of the heartland live by.


Nah....that's not true. Liberals don't try to legislate morals, or preach
about them. We get in your face about some stuff, but not about other stuff.
The difference between Liberals and Conservatives is which areas they
acknowledge as "None of anybody's business".

It's 100% based on the opinions of human beings, not natural law or deities.
Therefore, it's fair play to meddle until the next person is elected. If I
were elected, there'd be a law saying that if your car leaks oil all over
parking lots and you don't fix it within 30 days of getting a ticket,
someone comes to your house and breaks your kneecaps, and all five fingers
on one hand. But that's just me.

Think about this though. If there were an element in society that you
could statistically track, and could link this same element to a
definite decline in living standard, or quality of life, and you spoke
out against it, based on your evidence, would that make you "Hateful"?

When your only "evidence" is conjecture, spin, and speculation and you speak
out not against the decline but against those groups or individuals you blame
for the decline, yes. Even unto the classic sense of the Nazi vs. Jew or KKK
vs. black American examples. "Everything wrong with this country is the fault
of this group of people over here......." Very old story.

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...


Do you have some call letters of a radio station that broadcasts the left
wing
equivalent of Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, and the rest? I'd like to know
where
you hear the left "do the same" as the right.


Try NPR...

Dave...please. Haven't we discussed this embarrassing habit of yours (and
NOYB's)? You need to listen to a news source for a week or two to get a
sense of the average of what they broadcast. You obviously haven't done
that. Let's make it clear: Listen to NPR for an hour, 3 times a week, making
sure you begin a few minutes before the top of the hour.

Until then, you're in the same position as a wayward student whose teacher
says "Davie? That's a very imaginative answer, but you didn't read the
homework, did you?" You know you're busted.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Try NPR...

I listen to NPR regularly.

Tell me, when do I tune in to hear the hosts denigrate all conservatives
as
"traitors"? When should I listen to hear dozens of "Yep, me toos" from the
listening audience? Can't believe I'm missing all this hateful stuff
boradcast
on NPR.

NPR's left-wing bias is more analogous to governmental right-wing
propaganda. If you want an example of "hate talk" from the left, look at
people like Al Franken, Michael Moore, and James Carville.