On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:12:31 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:16:07 -0500, DSK wrote:



But the point stands- the U.S. military has
no interest in slaughtering hapless civilians.



It warms my heart to hear you say that.


Dave


But that isn't true.

Says you. And you have no credibility.

Dave

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:14:36 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:16:07 -0500, DSK wrote:



But the point stands- the U.S. military has
no interest in slaughtering hapless civilians.



It warms my heart to hear you say that.


Dave



Dresden, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, My Lai, Kent State...

No interest in slaughtering innocent civilians, eh?


Remember the first Gulf War and that footage of our military knocking
out that car heading across the bridge and the jokes made about it?
Classic. And who was in the car? Who knows. There was no intel
indicating it was any connected with the military. Probably just an
innocent civilian.


No, I don't remember that scene at all. I *do* remember the car
crossing the bridge moments before the missile hit the bridge just
behind the car, and the jokes were about the color of the stain in the
shorts of the driver, who missed death by mere seconds.

Dave

Don White wrote:
"Black Dog" wrote in message
. ..
snip

This is the one he wants:
http://www.yachtsales.com/msandy/sa5531.html

$40,000 - still more than we can afford - but it is sooo cute - and it
was built in Lunenburg, which has some sentimental value since I am
originally a bluenoser (although my British-born Ontario-raised husband
is more sentimenal about Nova Scotia than I am)
snip


That price seems reasonable...if not too much work is required.
Where would you sail?


The price is reasonable. And I have relatives at A.F. Theriault & Sons
shipyard where much of her work was done so I could find out what shape
she REALLY is in. But it is an WOODEN boat. Hubby really doesn't
comprehend the upkeep involved. He should, he has seen how surprised my
Mom is every spring when we just drop the boat into the water instead of
spending a few weeks caulking and painting and doing all the stuff she
watched men do to boats during her girlhood.

We are fresh water sailors and if this were to come to pass (it is just
a dream at the moment - but that's what I thought about the FIRST
sailboat too) she would probably lie in Little Current, Manitoulin
Island. He would like to sail her from St.John up the St.Lawerence and
into the Lakes.

OTOH, he is very near retirement and has a fancy to retire to Nova
Scotia (I told you he was more sentimental than me). I like the south
shore, Mahone Bay/Lunenburg area, unfortunately it is so popular with
our southern neighbours the price of real estate has skyrocketed. So
(were she to become ours) she could end up in Meteghan, on St. Mary's
Bay. The price of land on the French Shore is still reasonable (likely
to remain so as long the Yanks hate french people - luckily, many
Americans are too ignorant to know the 400 year-old difference between
an Acadian and someone from France).

Stella

"Black Dog" wrote in message
. ..
snip
I like the south shore, Mahone Bay/Lunenburg area, unfortunately it is so
popular with
our southern neighbours the price of real estate has skyrocketed. So
(were she to become ours) she could end up in Meteghan, on St. Mary's
Bay. The price of land on the French Shore is still reasonable (likely
to remain so as long the Yanks hate french people - luckily, many
Americans are too ignorant to know the 400 year-old difference between
an Acadian and someone from France).

Stella


Yes, those %#$$^% Yankees and Germans have made it so expensive that locals
can't afford a nice piece of cottage property on the Bras d'Or Lakes or
South Shore any more.

During our insurgency against the Brits, there were non-Americans stirring
the attacks and aiding and abetting them. So what?


NOYB wrote:
Perhaps Great Britain would still "own" the United States if they would have
gone after those countries stirring up the trouble, eh?



They did. Guess you must have slept through history class. They just
plain did not have the manpower, and failed.

DSK

... Ideology-driven reality-defying wild
guesses have no weight... unless they come from the White House, of
course...


NOYB wrote:
Which means they carry a lot of weight. Certainly a lot more than the
opinions of a couple of guys arguing on the internet.


You mean one guy arguing on the internet. I am stating figures given by
others backed by careful research. You are simply trying to shout louder
while typing.

DSK

Black Dog wrote:
This is the one he wants:
http://www.yachtsales.com/msandy/sa5531.html


That's a gorgeous boat. A bit small for a schooner rig, but very nicely
proportioned and seems to have a reasonable cabin plan too.



The price is reasonable. And I have relatives at A.F. Theriault & Sons
shipyard where much of her work was done so I could find out what shape
she REALLY is in. But it is an WOODEN boat. Hubby really doesn't
comprehend the upkeep involved.

Hmmm... Maybe I've been lucky, but I've owned a number of wooden boats
including 40 footer from the 1930s, and IMHO it's only about 10% more
work than keeping a fiberglass boat of similar complexity... provided
that the wooden boat is already fully sound. Rebuilding an old woody is
a labor for Hercules, but those who undertake it are benefactors of
humanity.


... The price of land on the French Shore is still reasonable (likely
to remain so as long the Yanks hate french people - luckily, many
Americans are too ignorant to know the 400 year-old difference between
an Acadian and someone from France).

Maybe so, but it looks to me like most Americans are interested in
moving south, not north. I was lucky enough to be born & raised in the
South and am considering moving north to get away from all the Yankees.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:31:48 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


But that isn't true.


Says you. And you have no credibility.

Dave


Uh, Dave...stop living in the cave. The US Military has targeted
"civilians" since at least the Civil War.

You're very naive, Dave. You've proved it over and over and over.

Just a few posts ago, you were indirectly extolling the virtues of the
FBI, which has been shown to be an organization made up of liars,
thieves, evidence tamperers, and perjurers. And those are its positive
attributes.

You seem to have some deep rooted authority issues. You should seek
counseling.

Dave

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:12:00 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:31:48 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:



But that isn't true.


Says you. And you have no credibility.

Dave


Uh, Dave...stop living in the cave. The US Military has targeted
"civilians" since at least the Civil War.

You're very naive, Dave. You've proved it over and over and over.

Just a few posts ago, you were indirectly extolling the virtues of the
FBI, which has been shown to be an organization made up of liars,
thieves, evidence tamperers, and perjurers. And those are its positive
attributes.


You seem to have some deep rooted authority issues. You should seek
counseling.

Dave


Because I don't believe in the FBI? Where have you been the last few
years, Dave, when that institution was shown to be involved in witness
and evidence tampering, and just plain incompetence?

It was never on a grand scale. The institution itself is credible,
despite the mistakes made by a few people in it.

But you are ready to trash the whole organization.

I suppose you'd feel better if we had no law enforcement or
intelligence gathering agencies then? After all, they could be come
corrupt at any time.....


Dave