My wife and I thought it would be a great idea and hobby to create a
free on-line guide to cruising destinations around the word for sailors
by sailors!

The concept is simple: anyone passionate about something has the
capacity and desire to share that knowledge. That is the premise of
this and all message boards. Who better to make recommendations than a
local that truly knows the waters, harbors and things to do when your
there. Well our site is going to organize from local sailors (meaning
you), recommendations to your favorite cruising destinations - wherever
they may be in the US and abroad. Even if they are just day or weekend
trips to your favorite Island.

Please go to the following link see our site and submit your knowledge:
http://cruisingguide.blogspot.com/

The submission button is at the bottom of the page - a few posts have
already been made! This is a brand new site so any recommendations are
welcomed. We will eventually get some pictures and imagery posted once
we get things going. Again, any recommendations on promoting and
making the site better are welcomed! Enjoy the site!

PS. Don't forget to add it to your "Favorites" list.

Regards,
Rob & Deana Finora
Long Island, NY

On 3 Feb 2005 09:43:53 -0800, "Swizzle" wrote:

My wife and I thought it would be a great idea and hobby to create a
free on-line guide to cruising destinations around the word for sailors
by sailors!

The concept is simple: anyone passionate about something has the
capacity and desire to share that knowledge. That is the premise of
this and all message boards. Who better to make recommendations than a
local that truly knows the waters, harbors and things to do when your
there. Well our site is going to organize from local sailors (meaning
you), recommendations to your favorite cruising destinations - wherever
they may be in the US and abroad. Even if they are just day or weekend
trips to your favorite Island.

Please go to the following link see our site and submit your knowledge:
http://cruisingguide.blogspot.com/

The submission button is at the bottom of the page - a few posts have
already been made! This is a brand new site so any recommendations are
welcomed. We will eventually get some pictures and imagery posted once
we get things going. Again, any recommendations on promoting and
making the site better are welcomed! Enjoy the site!

Nice sight. I have had my level 4 Captains certificate for 52 years
now. Wow, time really flies when your on thew water as much as I am.

OK Harry - with all that experience at the helm....lets see some
stories for our webiste!

Regards,
Rob

"hkrause" wrote in message
news:1107744171.2cdccfc95906c5085a5f8a41584a73fb@t eranews...
Swizzle wrote:
OK Harry - with all that experience at the helm....lets see some
stories for our webiste!

Regards,
Rob


You apparently didn't know we currently are plagued with a couple of real
losers in this newsgroup who have no lives of their own and try to live
vicariously by pretending they are me by engaging in identity theft.



Good luck. My wife had a "real" case of identity theft (false id, stolen
credit card, false internet auction house accounts, international sales of
stolen goods), and we had to jump through a million and one hoops to even
find a branch of law enforcement that would take the time to fill out a
report. With the help of the site administrator of some obscure mom-and-pop
auction house in California, I was able to trace the thief's email to South
Carolina. With a little more digging around, I discovered that he was
selling a stolen motorcycle (had a local officer run the VIN). I presented
the info to local law enforcement, and they handed me off to the FBI. The
FBI said they weren't the ones to deal with it, and said to contact the FTC.
The FTC has no real police powers. They shuffled me to the Electronic
Crimes division of the Secret Service. I spoke for about 25 minutes with a
Secret Service agent in Miami, who took all of the info. He said that
they'd subpoena AOL, Ebay, and a number of auction houses with which the
thief had registered. The agent also said they'd send an agent from South
Carolina and try to nab the thief selling the motorcycle. I don't know how
it all turned out, because I never heard back from the agent in Miami.

The bottom line...
You don't stand a snowball's chance in hell in prosecuting someone who
logged onto a newsgroup under your name. You *might* get the person's
internet provider to send him a warning, or maybe even cancel his
account...but don't count on that either. Law enforcement is too busy with
*real* crime to give a rat's ass about some guy logging into Usenet under a
false name. I guess you could get an attorney and sue. But then again,
what are the "damages"?

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 00:39:13 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

The bottom line...
You don't stand a snowball's chance in hell in prosecuting someone who
logged onto a newsgroup under your name. You *might* get the person's
internet provider to send him a warning, or maybe even cancel his
account...but don't count on that either. Law enforcement is too busy with
*real* crime to give a rat's ass about some guy logging into Usenet under a
false name. I guess you could get an attorney and sue. But then again,
what are the "damages"?

The real bottom line is that I can log on to Usenet as anybody I want
- has nothing to do with identity theft. And there is really nothing
Harry can do about it. Harry is a writer for some kind of Union deal
if I'm not mistaken, or a PR person - whatever, the point is that he
is a public personality and subject to laws regarding "satire". You
could also say that he is a public personality by his participation on
Usenet by espousing his political philosophy (which would be true of
me, NYOB or anybody else).

More to the point, nothing in his name was particularly egregious.
Don Rickles made his living for many, many years doing much the same
kind of humor.

Harry would also have a hard time proving any harm from all this. He
can certainly pursue legal action, but a competent civil attorney will
tell him that he's standing on legal quicksand.

As to header information and what not, that can be spoofed and it
would take more time than Road Runner would want to spend tracing it
back. If the spoofer wants to fight it, he can and have more legal
standing that the spoofie. Usenet is a ******* child of the WWW and
most providers would just as soon it go away. It used to be more a
function of Usenet etiquette - thou should never use another's nick.
It's just an unwritten rule.

In short, Harry will probably have to just sit there and take it for a
while. They usually stop after a while and things settle down.

Harry did make himself a target - it was destined to happen
eventually. That is not a defense of the perpetrator - just a fact.

Later,

Tom

Yup,,, I own most of the shares in the internet so I have some strings I can
pull, plus I have the "Sheriff" down the lane. He takes care of all my
problems (well the ones the little darling doesn't take care of).
When I have someone delivering bills, I send them down to see the sheriff,
or they meet mr and mrs Smith and Wesson, at the knees.You see I have two
loaded shot guns in my home, just waiting for someone to come to my house. I
have enough acreage that it would take one about a day to get along the
driveway and to my mansion, If they come all that way, there must be a
reason. The sheriff,, good fella he is, we do lunch all the time as he is
the chief of sheriffs, nice fella.

But I rat on some fellas all the time, I have already consulted with the
RCMP, the IP provider, the sheriff of course, Tom Ridge, my buddy at the
upscale liquor store and my buddy at the video coin porn shop. I have ratted
these people to the grocery store shelf stacker, the mailman, the little
darling, hmmmm,,, oh oh,,, ouch,, squish,,, ouch oooo,,, mmmm,,,
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

better get the little darling,,, I need a new diaper,, and almost time for
me meds,,,









"hkrause" wrote in message
news:1107744171.2cdccfc95906c5085a5f8a41584a73fb@t eranews...
Swizzle wrote:
OK Harry - with all that experience at the helm....lets see some
stories for our webiste!

Regards,
Rob


You apparently didn't know we currently are plagued with a couple of real
losers in this newsgroup who have no lives of their own and try to live
vicariously by pretending they are me by engaging in identity theft.

I suspect this will be coming to an end shortly.

NOYB wrote:
"hkrause" wrote in message
news:1107744171.2cdccfc95906c5085a5f8a41584a73fb@t eranews...
Swizzle wrote:
OK Harry - with all that experience at the helm....lets see some
stories for our webiste!

Regards,
Rob


You apparently didn't know we currently are plagued with a couple
of real
losers in this newsgroup who have no lives of their own and try to
live
vicariously by pretending they are me by engaging in identity
theft.



Good luck. My wife had a "real" case of identity theft (false id,
stolen
credit card, false internet auction house accounts, international
sales of
stolen goods), and we had to jump through a million and one hoops to
even
find a branch of law enforcement that would take the time to fill out
a
report. With the help of the site administrator of some obscure
mom-and-pop
auction house in California, I was able to trace the thief's email to
South
Carolina. With a little more digging around, I discovered that he
was
selling a stolen motorcycle (had a local officer run the VIN). I
presented
the info to local law enforcement, and they handed me off to the FBI.
The
FBI said they weren't the ones to deal with it, and said to contact
the FTC.
The FTC has no real police powers. They shuffled me to the
Electronic
Crimes division of the Secret Service. I spoke for about 25 minutes
with a
Secret Service agent in Miami, who took all of the info. He said
that
they'd subpoena AOL, Ebay, and a number of auction houses with which
the
thief had registered. The agent also said they'd send an agent from
South
Carolina and try to nab the thief selling the motorcycle. I don't
know how
it all turned out, because I never heard back from the agent in
Miami.

The bottom line...
You don't stand a snowball's chance in hell in prosecuting someone
who
logged onto a newsgroup under your name. You *might* get the
person's
internet provider to send him a warning, or maybe even cancel his
account...but don't count on that either. Law enforcement is too
busy with
*real* crime to give a rat's ass about some guy logging into Usenet
under a
false name. I guess you could get an attorney and sue. But then
again,
what are the "damages"?

Wow, I wouldn't think anything like that could happen in Naples, FL.
I'd think, because Naples is Nirvana, that crime doesn't exist there,
and there would be special safeguards given only to the people of
Naples, and not known anywhere else in the world.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 00:39:13 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

The bottom line...
You don't stand a snowball's chance in hell in prosecuting someone who
logged onto a newsgroup under your name. You *might* get the person's
internet provider to send him a warning, or maybe even cancel his
account...but don't count on that either. Law enforcement is too busy
with
*real* crime to give a rat's ass about some guy logging into Usenet under
a
false name. I guess you could get an attorney and sue. But then again,
what are the "damages"?

The real bottom line is that I can log on to Usenet as anybody I want
- has nothing to do with identity theft. And there is really nothing
Harry can do about it. Harry is a writer for some kind of Union deal
if I'm not mistaken, or a PR person - whatever, the point is that he
is a public personality and subject to laws regarding "satire". You
could also say that he is a public personality by his participation on
Usenet by espousing his political philosophy (which would be true of
me, NYOB or anybody else).

More to the point, nothing in his name was particularly egregious.
Don Rickles made his living for many, many years doing much the same
kind of humor.

Harry would also have a hard time proving any harm from all this. He
can certainly pursue legal action, but a competent civil attorney will
tell him that he's standing on legal quicksand.

As to header information and what not, that can be spoofed and it
would take more time than Road Runner would want to spend tracing it
back. If the spoofer wants to fight it, he can and have more legal
standing that the spoofie. Usenet is a ******* child of the WWW and
most providers would just as soon it go away. It used to be more a
function of Usenet etiquette - thou should never use another's nick.
It's just an unwritten rule.

In short, Harry will probably have to just sit there and take it for a
while. They usually stop after a while and things settle down.

Harry did make himself a target - it was destined to happen
eventually. That is not a defense of the perpetrator - just a fact.

Later,

Tom

And of course harry never said a peep when his butt buddy asslicker was
doing the same to me.

P.Fritz wrote:

And of course harry never said a peep when his butt buddy asslicker
was
doing the same to me.

Probably because you don't have the mental capacity to post like an
adult. With your childish name calling, how in the world could you
expect anybody to think that you are credible? Hell, Paul, even if you
take a look at your posts in the various support groups you frequent,
even those that are pathetically unable to cope with divorce, or raise
a child without support don't like you!

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

but, if you read Noyb's post again

....and again...and again...and again.

basskisser has the reading comprehension skills of a sloth. And not a very
bright sloth at that.