On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 08:39:57 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 11:17:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
How big is your boat?

20' Harris.

I can see your problem. A pontoon boat in that situation can be a
little twitchy.

I'm not sure a sign is going to do you much good.

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Not at all. Be glad you don't have to contend with 50 ft sportfish or
motor yachts with tsunami sized wakes.

I have, with no exaggeration, launched my Ranger completely out of the
water hitting a wake from a Hatteras that snuck up on me - I didn't
see it coming.

Damned things should be banned.

Unless, of course, I eventually own one.

Then everybody else WATCH OUT!!! :)

Later,

Tom

In article ,
Wayne.B wrote:


On 04 Feb 2005 05:46:19 GMT, (Greg) wrote:

There are some folks who do know about boats and pass at speed but
they are not
the rule..

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Be careful what you ask for because there are quite a few boats out
there that you really don't want passing at speed. If you want to be
passed with minimal wake, slow waaaay down, almost to a crawl before
the faster boat overtakes you. That way someone can go by you in a
reasonable length of time at "no wake speed" which is typically 6 to 7
knots for a larger boat.

If you continue to go 6 to 9 knots yourself, the faster boat has no
alternative but to follow, or throw a large wake. A heavy 50 footer
leaves very little wake at 7 knots, but 3 feet plus at 10 knots.

Yep. I leave almost no wake at ~6kts (idle), but if you force me to run
at 10kts to pass by you, you're definitely not going to like it.

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In article ,
Wayne.B wrote:


On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 11:17:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
How big is your boat?

20' Harris.

I can see your problem. A pontoon boat in that situation can be a
little twitchy.

I'm not sure a sign is going to do you much good.

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Not at all. Be glad you don't have to contend with 50 ft sportfish or
motor yachts with tsunami sized wakes.

If HE slows down to idle in the pontoon, he'll be making 2-3 kts. I'd be
making 6, which means I can pass him at a reasonable clip and be on my way.

If he tries to get cute and runs at 8-9 kts though, he's then forcing me to
go by him either fully on plane (which he doesn't want) or worse, "in the
hole" (which he REALLY doesn't want)

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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 01:57:54 GMT, (Karl
Denninger) wrote:

Yep. I leave almost no wake at ~6kts (idle), but if you force me to run
at 10kts to pass by you, you're definitely not going to like it.

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Most people with no experience on larger boats just don't seem to get
it.

If HE slows down to idle in the pontoon, he'll be making 2-3 kts. I'd be
making 6, which means I can pass him at a reasonable clip and be on my way.


You folks still don't get it. I want them to stay up on plane and "maintain
normal speed" Is that a better way to put it?

On 09 Feb 2005 05:01:09 GMT, (Greg) wrote:

If HE slows down to idle in the pontoon, he'll be making 2-3 kts. I'd be
making 6, which means I can pass him at a reasonable clip and be on my way.


You folks still don't get it. I want them to stay up on plane and "maintain
normal speed" Is that a better way to put it?

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We get it but the remedy you are proposing only works for smallish,
light weight boats on a fast plane. If a heavy boat like a sportfish
or motor yacht goes by you on plane, you will think a tsunami has
arrived. The point that Karl and I were making is that if you want a
large heavy boat to go by you with out leaving a wake, you need to
sloooow way down before they arrive. If I see a small boat ahead of
me slow down, I will go to idle speed and drop my wake to near zero.
If the boat ahead persists at moving at or near my idle speed however,
then I can only pass leaving a good sized wake.

If I see a large motor yacht in the Estero River there WAS a tsunami and it
washed in from the gulf ;-)

I am just trying to get folks to relax and go by at their normal speed. The
"courtesy slowdown" is always a plow.

On 09 Feb 2005 05:01:09 GMT, (Greg) wrote:


If HE slows down to idle in the pontoon, he'll be making 2-3 kts. I'd be
making 6, which means I can pass him at a reasonable clip and be on my way.


You folks still don't get it. I want them to stay up on plane and "maintain
normal speed" Is that a better way to put it?

What you are asking for is counter intuitive.

I don't know any other way to put it. And even if you had a sign in
flashing neon letters says "Continue at speed", it wound' do any good
because nobody would understand it.

Later,

Tom