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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and
it
is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and
are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their
hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush
is
not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be
competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies waiting
the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



1) Nobody can accurately determine the number.
2) If there were just eleven, but they had the president's ear, they'd
be
dangerous.
3) You know there are millions. The proof? Nobody buys television time
to
address a tiny audience. Turn on your TV on Sunday morning.



Now it is probably millions? Get your facts somewhat straight before
posting, and people may pay attention to you.



Is this really the best you can do? Fixate on a number which nobody can
accurately determine?



Is this really the best you can do? Throw out a huge number and then say
well, the real number does not count?

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wrote:


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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:52:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it
is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and
are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their
hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions
of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is
not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be
competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies waiting
the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



1) Nobody can accurately determine the number.
2) If there were just eleven, but they had the president's ear, they'd be
dangerous.
3) You know there are millions. The proof? Nobody buys television time to
address a tiny audience. Turn on your TV on Sunday morning.


Is it your contention, Doug, that Bush is now going to start lobbing nukes
around the world to experience the 'rapture' called for by these 'loonies'
who
'have his ear'?

How was the 65 million number picked, Doug? If you started off talking
about 11
loonies, would you get the reaction you desired?



I have no idea how the number was picked. I simply tagged onto someone
else's message. You have nothing better to do. Read backwards through the
discussion.

As far as Bush, he doesn't need to lob nukes to be dangerous. Let's turn the
question around: You don't want religious fanatics determining political
policy in the Arab countries, right? What about here? Do you want them
wielding the same influence here?


Let's *don't* turn the question around! You, et al, are making all the wild
allegations. Back them up!

You are telling us you just glommed onto a number with no idea where it came
from? Did you ever consider that perhaps the whole allegation was the result of
overimagination?


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

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wrote:


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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and
it
is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and
are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their
hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush
is
not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be
competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies waiting
the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



1) Nobody can accurately determine the number.
2) If there were just eleven, but they had the president's ear, they'd
be
dangerous.
3) You know there are millions. The proof? Nobody buys television time
to
address a tiny audience. Turn on your TV on Sunday morning.


Is it your contention, Doug, that Bush is now going to start lobbing
nukes
around the world to experience the 'rapture' called for by these
'loonies'
who
'have his ear'?

How was the 65 million number picked, Doug? If you started off talking
about 11
loonies, would you get the reaction you desired?



I have no idea how the number was picked. I simply tagged onto someone
else's message. You have nothing better to do. Read backwards through the
discussion.

As far as Bush, he doesn't need to lob nukes to be dangerous. Let's turn
the
question around: You don't want religious fanatics determining political
policy in the Arab countries, right? What about here? Do you want them
wielding the same influence here?


Let's *don't* turn the question around! You, et al, are making all the
wild
allegations. Back them up!

You are telling us you just glommed onto a number with no idea where it
came
from? Did you ever consider that perhaps the whole allegation was the
result of
overimagination?

No. First of all, the number doesn't matter. Could be 5 million, 12 million,
or 65 million. Irrelevant. If *any* number of zealots determine public
policy, it's bad for this country, both internally and overseas.

If you're not comfortable with the number being debated ad nauseum here,
pick one so we can get past the issue.

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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election,
and
it
is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense,
and
are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their
hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush
is
not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be
competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies
waiting
the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



1) Nobody can accurately determine the number.
2) If there were just eleven, but they had the president's ear, they'd
be
dangerous.
3) You know there are millions. The proof? Nobody buys television time
to
address a tiny audience. Turn on your TV on Sunday morning.



Now it is probably millions? Get your facts somewhat straight before
posting, and people may pay attention to you.



Is this really the best you can do? Fixate on a number which nobody can
accurately determine?



Is this really the best you can do? Throw out a huge number and then say
well, the real number does not count?



Read slowly: I did not pick the number, nor did I claim it was accurate. I
can only come to the same conclusion which you will agree with (internally),
but deny (publicly) because it's convenient.

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 21:32:15 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message

I have no idea how the number was picked. I simply tagged onto someone
else's message. You have nothing better to do. Read backwards through the
discussion.

As far as Bush, he doesn't need to lob nukes to be dangerous. Let's turn
the
question around: You don't want religious fanatics determining political
policy in the Arab countries, right? What about here? Do you want them
wielding the same influence here?


Let's *don't* turn the question around! You, et al, are making all the
wild
allegations. Back them up!

You are telling us you just glommed onto a number with no idea where it
came
from? Did you ever consider that perhaps the whole allegation was the
result of
overimagination?

No. First of all, the number doesn't matter. Could be 5 million, 12 million,
or 65 million. Irrelevant. If *any* number of zealots determine public
policy, it's bad for this country, both internally and overseas.

If you're not comfortable with the number being debated ad nauseum here,
pick one so we can get past the issue.


You missed the two questions:

Do you now believe Bush is going to 'take actions' to speed up the arrival of
this 'rapture'?

Did you ever consider that perhaps the whole allegation was the result of
over-imagination?

Or, do you just glom onto anything that might reflect badly on the
administration.

John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 21:33:09 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election,
and
it
is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense,
and
are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their
hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush
is
not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be
competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies
waiting
the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



1) Nobody can accurately determine the number.
2) If there were just eleven, but they had the president's ear, they'd
be
dangerous.
3) You know there are millions. The proof? Nobody buys television time
to
address a tiny audience. Turn on your TV on Sunday morning.



Now it is probably millions? Get your facts somewhat straight before
posting, and people may pay attention to you.



Is this really the best you can do? Fixate on a number which nobody can
accurately determine?



Is this really the best you can do? Throw out a huge number and then say
well, the real number does not count?



Read slowly: I did not pick the number, nor did I claim it was accurate. I
can only come to the same conclusion which you will agree with (internally),
but deny (publicly) because it's convenient.


Again, is the rest of your story as accurate as your number?

John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Here's a forum from Landover Baptist Church. It's an atheistic humor
site, they are not republicans. They are heavy on sarcasm, the posts
by Jeb Thurmond are the relevant ones and they illustrate that sarcasm
isn't necessarily humorous. Whether the numbers are right, I don't
know. Numbers, smumbers, how many wmd's were there supposed to be? Was
it 350 or 380 tons of high explosives that went missing? How many
causilties, or dead, or traumitized? I don't know. The numbers don't
matter so much in this Landover forum as the thoughts these people are
expressing. Are these your kind of people? Do you on the right agree
with this way of thinking? Sam

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/forum...showtopic=2453

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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election,
and
it
is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense,
and
are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their
hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President
Bush
is
not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be
competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this
thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies
waiting
the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



1) Nobody can accurately determine the number.
2) If there were just eleven, but they had the president's ear,
they'd
be
dangerous.
3) You know there are millions. The proof? Nobody buys television
time
to
address a tiny audience. Turn on your TV on Sunday morning.



Now it is probably millions? Get your facts somewhat straight before
posting, and people may pay attention to you.



Is this really the best you can do? Fixate on a number which nobody can
accurately determine?



Is this really the best you can do? Throw out a huge number and then
say
well, the real number does not count?



Read slowly: I did not pick the number, nor did I claim it was accurate. I
can only come to the same conclusion which you will agree with
(internally),
but deny (publicly) because it's convenient.



No, you stated the number as fact. You can not back up your facts, so your
argument is a fallacy.

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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election,
and
it
is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense,
and
are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their
hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President
Bush
is
not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be
competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this
thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies
waiting
the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



1) Nobody can accurately determine the number.
2) If there were just eleven, but they had the president's ear,
they'd
be
dangerous.
3) You know there are millions. The proof? Nobody buys television
time
to
address a tiny audience. Turn on your TV on Sunday morning.



Now it is probably millions? Get your facts somewhat straight
before
posting, and people may pay attention to you.



Is this really the best you can do? Fixate on a number which nobody
can
accurately determine?



Is this really the best you can do? Throw out a huge number and then
say
well, the real number does not count?



Read slowly: I did not pick the number, nor did I claim it was accurate.
I
can only come to the same conclusion which you will agree with
(internally),
but deny (publicly) because it's convenient.



No, you stated the number as fact. You can not back up your facts, so
your
argument is a fallacy.



No. The OP posted a story which claimed the number to be fact. The author
certainly estimated, and probably on the high side. But, that doesn't
matter. Let's try this again, and for the last time.

Since you believe religious zealots should not influence politics in the
Middle East, do you also believe they should NOT do the same here?

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 03:51:06 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Since you believe religious zealots should not influence politics in the
Middle East, do you also believe they should NOT do the same here?

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Especially here.