"NOYB" wrote ...

How many cars are able to make 225 hp out of a 2.0 liter engine...thus
getting 112.5 hp/liter? How many of 'em run their engines at nearly
80-90% of redline continuously for extended periods of time?

My commuter car has a 2.0L that makes 227 hp (stock), has AWD, and cost less
than $25K new. Granted I don't run at 6000 rpm continuously but the world rally
cup guys might. (Subaru WRX)

-rick-

-rick- wrote:

"NOYB" wrote ...

How many cars are able to make 225 hp out of a 2.0 liter engine...thus
getting 112.5 hp/liter? How many of 'em run their engines at nearly
80-90% of redline continuously for extended periods of time?

My commuter car has a 2.0L that makes 227 hp (stock), has AWD, and cost less
than $25K new. Granted I don't run at 6000 rpm continuously but the world rally
cup guys might. (Subaru WRX)

-rick-


How do you like that all-wheel drive? My bride wants a new car, and I've
been trying to talk her into someone's all-wheel drive vehicle. We have
snow and ice here frequently in the winter, leaves on the highways in
the fall and sometimes tons of rain in the spring and summer.
All-the-time-all-wheel-drive seems a no-brainer.

Is there a downside?



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I don't think any of these 4 strokes are going tp last a real long time if they
run WOT all the time but I do have to admit my Honda (car) redlines at 7400RPM
and they usually redline an outboard at 6000.
I usually keep my Merc 4 stroke around 4000 or so. It just sounds better to me
.... but I felt the same way about my old 2 stroke and I got close to 3000 hrs
out of it.
It was still running when I sold it.

Greg wrote:

I don't think any of these 4 strokes are going tp last a real long time if they
run WOT all the time but I do have to admit my Honda (car) redlines at 7400RPM
and they usually redline an outboard at 6000.
I usually keep my Merc 4 stroke around 4000 or so. It just sounds better to me
... but I felt the same way about my old 2 stroke and I got close to 3000 hrs
out of it.
It was still running when I sold it.

I run my 225 Yamaha four stroke at a cruising RPM of 4000-4500. It seems
to sound "best" at 4500, which seems high to me, coming from the
two-stroke outboard world.

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All-the-time-all-wheel-drive seems a no-brainer.

Is there a downside?

The down side is when you "lose" a wheel, you lose all 4. You car becomes a
hockey puck.

The down side is when you "lose" a wheel, you lose all 4. You car becomes a
hockey puck.

From my younger (Jeep) racing days, I can offer that the major caveat
to 4WD is that it won't eliminate being stuck..... but be assured
that when you *do* get stuck, you are *really* stuck....
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Been there too ;-)

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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-rick- wrote:

"NOYB" wrote ...

How many cars are able to make 225 hp out of a 2.0 liter engine...thus
getting 112.5 hp/liter? How many of 'em run their engines at nearly
80-90% of redline continuously for extended periods of time?

My commuter car has a 2.0L that makes 227 hp (stock), has AWD, and cost
less
than $25K new. Granted I don't run at 6000 rpm continuously but the
world rally
cup guys might. (Subaru WRX)

-rick-


How do you like that all-wheel drive? My bride wants a new car, and I've
been trying to talk her into someone's all-wheel drive vehicle.

Try the Infinite G35...now available with AWD. Very fast, quiet,
comfortable, and sporty. Pretty good value for around $35-38k.

"Harry Krause" wrote ...

How do you like that all-wheel drive? My bride wants a new car, and I've
been trying to talk her into someone's all-wheel drive vehicle. We have
snow and ice here frequently in the winter, leaves on the highways in
the fall and sometimes tons of rain in the spring and summer.
All-the-time-all-wheel-drive seems a no-brainer.

Is there a downside?

The only downside I'm aware of is a slight reduction in fuel efficiency due to
additional drive train losses and a tendency to become overly confident and have
problems stopping. I love it. It feels extremely safe and secure. My
occasional attempts at aggressive driving have barely made it squirm.

Various manufacturers all wheel drive systems use different methods. I
recommend test driving on various surfaces and pushing it pretty hard.

-rick-

-rick- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote ...

How do you like that all-wheel drive? My bride wants a new car, and I've
been trying to talk her into someone's all-wheel drive vehicle. We have
snow and ice here frequently in the winter, leaves on the highways in
the fall and sometimes tons of rain in the spring and summer.
All-the-time-all-wheel-drive seems a no-brainer.

Is there a downside?

The only downside I'm aware of is a slight reduction in fuel efficiency due to
additional drive train losses and a tendency to become overly confident and have
problems stopping. I love it. It feels extremely safe and secure. My
occasional attempts at aggressive driving have barely made it squirm.

Various manufacturers all wheel drive systems use different methods. I
recommend test driving on various surfaces and pushing it pretty hard.

-rick-


Good advice, to be sure. Problem is, car selection is something my bride
finds...boring. I doubt I can get her to more than two dealerships.

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"-rick-" wrote in message ...
"NOYB" wrote ...

How many cars are able to make 225 hp out of a 2.0 liter engine...thus
getting 112.5 hp/liter? How many of 'em run their engines at nearly
80-90% of redline continuously for extended periods of time?

My commuter car has a 2.0L that makes 227 hp (stock), has AWD, and cost less
than $25K new. Granted I don't run at 6000 rpm continuously but the world rally
cup guys might. (Subaru WRX)

All more impressive because the car is a 4-stroke. I don't think any
4-stroke outboard gets much more than 120 hp from 2 liters. Redline
for continuous power rating has a different meaning for intermittent
rating as would be the case for a car.

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