Thomas Jefferson did not add the 2nd amendment to protect hunting
privileges. Was a direct challenge to the political leaders to stay the
course.
Bill

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Is that all??
I'd encourage him to go farther......outlaw all handguns and assault
weapons
except for police/military.
I have to keep trigger locks on my rifle & shotgun....just good common
sense.

NOYB wrote in message
link.net...

Gun Control
Senator Kerry is deeply troubled by the numbers of people - and
particularly
the number of children - that are wounded or killed by gunfire each year
and
he supports stricter gun control measures in order to prevent children
and
adults from misusing any of the approximately 192 million firearms
currently
in circulation in the United States. He believes that we need to close
the
gun show loophole, which permits sales at gun shows without a background
check, require the provision of a child safety lock on all handguns, and
increase controls on assault weapons and HANDGUNS.

"Butch Ammon" wrote in message

John Kerry is not the greatest candidate out there. He's way too far
left.


If you compare the voting records of our two Senators on significant
legislation over the past 15 years or so, you find (ironically, to some)
that John Kerry is to the left of Ted Kennedy. It's been a long, long time
since Teddy has been called "...the conservative one..."

"Don White" wrote in message
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Don't know what you 'mericans would consider as assault...but I say....
anything that holds more than 5 rounds or shells.
and certainly automatic weapons such as AK47's & M16's Machine pistols etc

OK...you want to redesign revolvers? :-) And, you may as well limit handguns
to 3 rounds. Anyone who's taken a good defensive shooting course is taught
to put two in the torso, count to 1, and if you still see a face on a
standing body, 1 to the head.

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Is that all??
I'd encourage him to go farther......outlaw all handguns and assault
weapons
except for police/military.
I have to keep trigger locks on my rifle & shotgun....just good common
sense.

That's silly. Ask around at any gun shop or shooting range and you'll be
told that cops are among the most UNsafe gun handlers. Most law-abiding gun
owners are obsessed with safety. The few that are not are much lower in
numbers than people who pose a daily threat to society every time they start
their cars.

"Don White" wrote in message
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Wouldn't you like your girls to live in a safer world? Who needs all
those
guns?

First, let's instruct our police to aggressively bully people who drive in
the winter with their windows all fogged up and covered with snow. While
they're at it, they can quadruple the number of sobriety checkpoints.

Forget criminals, who will always find a way to hurt & kill people. Focus on
"regular people" who've done bad things with guns. How many incidents do you
recall over the past 10 years? Big stuff that made news, and caused
legislators to get on their soap boxes? Maybe 3 or 5?

"Don White" wrote in message
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No problem for you or the girls...it's the unstable people who might buy
or
steal readily available guns and commit mayhem.
As with most laws...the majority of solid citizens have to suffer
inconvenience to help thwart the criminal types.
The less guns in circulation....the less chance small time criminals or
kids
will misuse one.
The hard core criminals will easily arm themselves whatever the law is.

Many hunters enjoy the challenge of using handguns for deer, and never carry
those guns at any other time. No more handguns for them?

On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 13:55:37 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Wouldn't you like your girls to live in a safer world? Who needs all
those
guns?

First, let's instruct our police to aggressively bully people who drive in
the winter with their windows all fogged up and covered with snow. While
they're at it, they can quadruple the number of sobriety checkpoints.

Personally, I want a total country wide ban on alcohol sales - period,
end-of-discussion.

However that is not a practical solution, so my proposal is .05
alcohol level as illegal and first offense for drunk driving is
automatic suspension and removal of the driver's license for a period
of one year and restricted priviledges for 5 years after reenstatement
(only drive from home to work for example) - no exceptions. I also
don't believe that the courts should be involved - you are caught, you
pay the piper.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
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"To the fisherman born there is nothing
so provoking of curiosity as a fishing rod
in a case."

Roland Pertwee, "The River God" (1928)

On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 13:56:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...
No problem for you or the girls...it's the unstable people who might buy
or
steal readily available guns and commit mayhem.
As with most laws...the majority of solid citizens have to suffer
inconvenience to help thwart the criminal types.
The less guns in circulation....the less chance small time criminals or
kids
will misuse one.
The hard core criminals will easily arm themselves whatever the law is.

Many hunters enjoy the challenge of using handguns for deer, and never carry
those guns at any other time. No more handguns for them?

Feral pigs. With a .44 Mag revolver.

Them hogs is sumthin' huge too, I'll tell you whut... :)

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------

"To the fisherman born there is nothing
so provoking of curiosity as a fishing rod
in a case."

Roland Pertwee, "The River God" (1928)

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...


With the president, we have no other measure, unless we can find a way
to
spend a day with him, asking him questions of our own. You may say we
can
judge him by his actions, but that's probably not a good idea.

That's a very good idea. Judge him by his actions...not whether you
agree
with them...but whether or not the end results were/are positive.
Didn't
agree with the tax cuts? So what. There is hardly anybody dumb enough
to
say that they didn't help spark the economy. Didn't agree with the war
in
Iraq? So what. It's hard to find someone who believes the World would
be
a
better place with Saddam still in power. Don't agree with the Patriot
Act
and the detention of all those bad guys in Guantanamo? So what. Since
9/11, there have been no major attacks on our country despite al Qaeda's
best efforts.

Oh. I see. But, perhaps you should meditate on the difference between
cause
and correlation.


Fine, Doug. So Bush is Forrest Gump...and everything just happens to work
out or him...

"Don White" wrote in message
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Is that all??
I'd encourage him to go farther

Who cares what you'd do. You can't vote in our elections.