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2 stroke vs. 4 stroke??
Hello, Would a 6hp 4 stroke outboard (1 cyl) have equal or better
performance when compared to a 6hp 2 stroke (2 cyl) ? I'm replacing a 6hp Yamaha on my Livingston 7.5 tender and was thinking of using a 6hp 4 stroke Tohatsu. Yamaha no longer makes the 6hp 2 stroke. Weight is a major concern. The Yamaha 8hp. 2 stroke is still available but about $300 more than the 6hp Tohatsu 4 stroke so I'd go for the Tohatsu if perfomance were similar. I want to get it right the first time. Thanks Jeff Kalama, WA |
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2 stroke vs. 4 stroke??
"jeffo" wrote in message ... Hello, Would a 6hp 4 stroke outboard (1 cyl) have equal or better performance when compared to a 6hp 2 stroke (2 cyl) ? I'm replacing a 6hp Yamaha on my Livingston 7.5 tender and was thinking of using a 6hp 4 stroke Tohatsu. Yamaha no longer makes the 6hp 2 stroke. Weight is a major concern. The Yamaha 8hp. 2 stroke is still available but about $300 more than the 6hp Tohatsu 4 stroke so I'd go for the Tohatsu if perfomance were similar. I want to get it right the first time. Thanks Jeff Kalama, WA Go with the 4 stroke. This is not a high performance bass boat. I changed my 15 hp Mariner 2 stroke kicker for a Yamaha T-8 4 stroke. Quiet, runs close to the same as the Mariner performance wise (displacement mode) and no smells or smoke. Almost forgot how much nicer the 4 stroke was until yesterday. Took my 14' aluminum boat out for a test run as I am selling it (Kiss my Bass, asskisser) and sure the boat ran well, but trolling with the 2 stroke, more vibrations and some smoke. Bill |
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2 stroke vs. 4 stroke??
I would never buy a 1 cyl outboard of any type. The vibration will drive you nuts!
Dan jeffo wrote: Hello, Would a 6hp 4 stroke outboard (1 cyl) have equal or better performance when compared to a 6hp 2 stroke (2 cyl) ? I'm replacing a 6hp Yamaha on my Livingston 7.5 tender and was thinking of using a 6hp 4 stroke Tohatsu. Yamaha no longer makes the 6hp 2 stroke. Weight is a major concern. The Yamaha 8hp. 2 stroke is still available but about $300 more than the 6hp Tohatsu 4 stroke so I'd go for the Tohatsu if perfomance were similar. I want to get it right the first time. Thanks Jeff Kalama, WA |
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2 stroke vs. 4 stroke??
Bad vaibes? You have a point, but the 4 stroke Yamaha has far less head
wagging then the 2 stroke. Suzuki's motors have even less then yammy's offering and are less money. Tohatsu is an ok engine, but heavy and sometimes hard to start and MUST have the waterpump impeller replaced every year. Capt. Frank "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... I would never buy a 1 cyl outboard of any type. The vibration will drive you nuts! Dan jeffo wrote: Hello, Would a 6hp 4 stroke outboard (1 cyl) have equal or better performance when compared to a 6hp 2 stroke (2 cyl) ? I'm replacing a 6hp Yamaha on my Livingston 7.5 tender and was thinking of using a 6hp 4 stroke Tohatsu. Yamaha no longer makes the 6hp 2 stroke. Weight is a major concern. The Yamaha 8hp. 2 stroke is still available but about $300 more than the 6hp Tohatsu 4 stroke so I'd go for the Tohatsu if perfomance were similar. I want to get it right the first time. Thanks Jeff Kalama, WA |
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2 stroke vs. 4 stroke??
My experiences are with a 4 HP Suzuki 4 stroke and a 4 HP Yamaha 2 stroke. Both
vibrated like a chainsaw. The 9.9 HP Yamaha 4 stroke is a hell of a lot better. - I've run one of them, too. Dan Capt Frank Hopkins wrote: Bad vaibes? You have a point, but the 4 stroke Yamaha has far less head wagging then the 2 stroke. Suzuki's motors have even less then yammy's offering and are less money. Tohatsu is an ok engine, but heavy and sometimes hard to start and MUST have the waterpump impeller replaced every year. Capt. Frank "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... I would never buy a 1 cyl outboard of any type. The vibration will drive you nuts! Dan jeffo wrote: Hello, Would a 6hp 4 stroke outboard (1 cyl) have equal or better performance when compared to a 6hp 2 stroke (2 cyl) ? I'm replacing a 6hp Yamaha on my Livingston 7.5 tender and was thinking of using a 6hp 4 stroke Tohatsu. Yamaha no longer makes the 6hp 2 stroke. Weight is a major concern. The Yamaha 8hp. 2 stroke is still available but about $300 more than the 6hp Tohatsu 4 stroke so I'd go for the Tohatsu if perfomance were similar. I want to get it right the first time. Thanks Jeff Kalama, WA |
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2 stroke vs. 4 stroke??
I absolutely agree. Isn't the 9.9 a twin cyl though?
CF "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... My experiences are with a 4 HP Suzuki 4 stroke and a 4 HP Yamaha 2 stroke. Both vibrated like a chainsaw. The 9.9 HP Yamaha 4 stroke is a hell of a lot better. - I've run one of them, too. Dan Capt Frank Hopkins wrote: Bad vaibes? You have a point, but the 4 stroke Yamaha has far less head wagging then the 2 stroke. Suzuki's motors have even less then yammy's offering and are less money. Tohatsu is an ok engine, but heavy and sometimes hard to start and MUST have the waterpump impeller replaced every year. Capt. Frank "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... I would never buy a 1 cyl outboard of any type. The vibration will drive you nuts! Dan jeffo wrote: Hello, Would a 6hp 4 stroke outboard (1 cyl) have equal or better performance when compared to a 6hp 2 stroke (2 cyl) ? I'm replacing a 6hp Yamaha on my Livingston 7.5 tender and was thinking of using a 6hp 4 stroke Tohatsu. Yamaha no longer makes the 6hp 2 stroke. Weight is a major concern. The Yamaha 8hp. 2 stroke is still available but about $300 more than the 6hp Tohatsu 4 stroke so I'd go for the Tohatsu if perfomance were similar. I want to get it right the first time. Thanks Jeff Kalama, WA |
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2 stroke vs. 4 stroke??
For what it's worth, my experience with a 6hp Nissan/Tohatsu is it revs
fast. Makes a pitch that loosens my fillings. Keep in mind it is the same displacement as 4hp and 5 hp Tohatsu, both of which are reasonably quiet. Do you really need 6 hp to push a Livingston 7.5 tender? 8 hp is the max, perhaps the 5 hp will do fine? I'd pick the 5hp Tohatsu over the 6hp because it runs at 1,000 fewer rpms... Certainly the 5 hp Honda is sweet. The 6hp Suzuki revs almost as fast as the Tohatsu, so I expect it have the high rev sound I hate. Probably the 4hp Suzuki is not enough power in many cases. The 6hp Yamaha is a 2 cylinder, and much larger displacement than these others. I'll bet the 6hp Yamaha will be the quietest (which I like) and run the smoothest (and is the most expensive). Whatever you choose, I'd stay away from 2 strokes. These new 4 strokes burn a lot less fuel and pollute a lot less (two good things) the weight issue and power issue probably improve in the next year or two and most 2 strokes will be phased out in 2006. If I knew what the engines of 2006 have in store for us, I bet they will be impressive, but you need a motor now... in that case, I'd say get the 5 hp Tohatsu (a good buy) and make due with it for 2-3 years, then something far superior to the choices we have today will be out is my hunch. jeffo wrote: Hello, Would a 6hp 4 stroke outboard (1 cyl) have equal or better performance when compared to a 6hp 2 stroke (2 cyl) ? I'm replacing a 6hp Yamaha on my Livingston 7.5 tender and was thinking of using a 6hp 4 stroke Tohatsu. Yamaha no longer makes the 6hp 2 stroke. Weight is a major concern. The Yamaha 8hp. 2 stroke is still available but about $300 more than the 6hp Tohatsu 4 stroke so I'd go for the Tohatsu if perfomance were similar. I want to get it right the first time. Thanks Jeff Kalama, WA |
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2 stroke vs. 4 stroke??
Yup. 8 HP on up, I think...
Capt Frank Hopkins wrote: I absolutely agree. Isn't the 9.9 a twin cyl though? CF "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... My experiences are with a 4 HP Suzuki 4 stroke and a 4 HP Yamaha 2 stroke. Both vibrated like a chainsaw. The 9.9 HP Yamaha 4 stroke is a hell of a lot better. - I've run one of them, too. Dan Capt Frank Hopkins wrote: Bad vaibes? You have a point, but the 4 stroke Yamaha has far less head wagging then the 2 stroke. Suzuki's motors have even less then yammy's offering and are less money. Tohatsu is an ok engine, but heavy and sometimes hard to start and MUST have the waterpump impeller replaced every year. Capt. Frank "Dan Krueger" wrote in message thlink.net... I would never buy a 1 cyl outboard of any type. The vibration will drive you nuts! Dan jeffo wrote: Hello, Would a 6hp 4 stroke outboard (1 cyl) have equal or better performance when compared to a 6hp 2 stroke (2 cyl) ? I'm replacing a 6hp Yamaha on my Livingston 7.5 tender and was thinking of using a 6hp 4 stroke Tohatsu. Yamaha no longer makes the 6hp 2 stroke. Weight is a major concern. The Yamaha 8hp. 2 stroke is still available but about $300 more than the 6hp Tohatsu 4 stroke so I'd go for the Tohatsu if perfomance were similar. I want to get it right the first time. Thanks Jeff Kalama, WA |
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