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How the Bush family made its fortune from the Nazis

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jim,,
Did you read and understand these articles?

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http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/...ush_nazis.html

Title

How the Bush family made its fortune from the Nazis

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Pa...yBuy_Bush.html

Title

Bush family finances:Best democracy money can buy

http://www.sptimes.com/News/102900/B..._bailout.shtml

Title

Influence and bailouts a business tradition in Bush family

http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiogr...a/whoisgwb.htm

Title
Who is George W. Bush?

http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHG..._Bush_ Nazi_2

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“Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951” - Federal Documents



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Sure -- I'll even post the most telling one for your enjoyment


“Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951” - Federal Documents
By John Buchanan and Stacey Michael
from The New Hampshire Gazette Vol. 248, No. 3, November 7, 2003

After the seizures in late 1942 of five U.S. enterprises he managed on
behalf of Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, Prescott Bush, the
grandfather of President George W. Bush, failed to divest himself of
more than a dozen "enemy national" relationships that continued until as
late as 1951, newly-discovered U.S. government documents reveal.

Furthermore, the records show that Bush and his colleagues routinely
attempted to conceal their activities from government investigators.

Bush's partners in the secret web of Thyssen-controlled ventures
included former New York Governor W. Averell Harriman and his younger
brother, E. Roland Harriman. Their quarter-century of Nazi financial
transactions, from 1924-1951, were conducted by the New York private
banking firm, Brown Brothers Harriman.

The White House did not return phone calls seeking comment.

Although the additional seizures under the Trading with the Enemy Act
did not take place until after the war, documents from The National
Archives and Library of Congress confirm that Bush and his partners
continued their Nazi dealings unabated. These activities included a
financial relationship with the German city of Hanover and several
industrial concerns. They went undetected by investigators until after
World War Two.

At the same time Bush and the Harrimans were profiting from their Nazi
partnerships, W. Averell Harriman was serving as President Franklin
Delano Roosevelt's personal emissary to the United Kingdom during the
toughest years of the war. On October 28, 1942, the same day two key
Bush-Harriman-run businesses were being seized by the U.S. government,
Harriman was meeting in London with Field Marshall Smuts to discuss the
war effort.

Denial and Deceit

While Harriman was concealing his Nazi relationships from his government
colleagues, Cornelius Livense, the top executive of the interlocking
German concerns held under the corporate umbrella of Union Banking
Corporation (UBC), repeatedly tried to mislead investigators, and was
sometimes supported in his subterfuge by Brown Brothers Harriman.

All of the assets of UBC and its related businesses belonged to
Thyssen-controlled enterprises, including his Bank voor Handel en
Scheepvaart in Rotterdam, the documents state.

Nevertheless, Livense, president of UBC, claimed to have no knowledge of
such a relationship. "Strangely enough, (Livense) claims he does not
know the actual ownership of the company," states a government report.

H.D Pennington, manager of Brown Brothers Harriman and a director of UBC
"for many years," also lied to investigators about the secret and
well-concealed relationship with Thyssen's Dutch bank, according to the
documents.

Investigators later reported that the company was "wholly owned" by
Thyssen's Dutch bank.

Despite such ongoing subterfuge, U.S. investigators were able to show
that "a careful examination of UBC's general ledger, cash books and
journals from 1919 until the present date clearly establish that the
principal and practically only source of funds has been Bank voor Handel
en Scheepvaart."

In yet another attempt to mislead investigators, Livense said that
$240,000 in banknotes in a safe deposit box at Underwriters Trust Co. in
New York had been given to him by another UBC-Thyssen associate, H.J.
Kouwenhoven, managing director of Thyssen's Dutch bank and a director of
the August Thyssen Bank in Berlin. August Thyssen was Fritz's father.

The government report shows that Livense first neglected to report the
$240,000, then claimed that it had been given to him as a gift by
Kouwenhoven. However, by the time Livense filed a financial disclosure
with U.S. officials, he changed his story again and reported the sum as
a debt rather than a cash holding.

In yet another attempt to deceive the governments of both the U.S. and
Canada, Livense and his partners misreported the facts about the sale of
a Canadian Nazi front enterprise, La Cooperative Catholique des
Consommateurs de Combustible, which imported German coal into Canada via
the web of Thyssen-controlled U.S. businesses.

"The Canadian authorities, however, were not taken in by this maneuver,"
a U.S. government report states. The coal company was later seized by
Canadian authorities.

After the war, a total of 18 additional Brown Brothers Harriman and
UBC-related client assets were seized under The Trading with the Enemy
Act, including several that showed the continuation of a relationship
with the Thyssen family after the initial 1942 seizures.

The records also show that Bush and the Harrimans conducted business
after the war with related concerns doing business in or moving assets
into Switzerland, Panama, Argentina and Brazil - all critical outposts
for the flight of Nazi capital after Germany's surrender in 1945. Fritz
Thyssen died in Argentina in 1951.

One of the final seizures, in October 1950, concerned the U.S. assets of
a Nazi baroness named Theresia Maria Ida Beneditka Huberta Stanislava
Martina von Schwarzenberg, who also used two shorter aliases. Brown
Brothers Harriman, where Prescott Bush and the Harrimans were partners,
attempted to convince government investigators that the baroness had
been a victim of Nazi persecution and therefore should be allowed to
maintain her assets.

"It appears, rather, that the subject was a member of the Nazi party,"
government investigators concluded.

At the same time the last Brown Brothers Harriman client assets were
seized, Prescott Bush announced his Senate campaign that led to his
election in 1952.

Investigation Investigated?

In 1943, six months after the seizure of UBC and its related companies,
a government investigator noted in a Treasury Department memo dated
April 8, 1943 that the FBI had inquired about the status of any
investigation into Bush and the Harrimans.

"I gave 'a memorandum' which did not say anything about the American
officers of subject," the investigator wrote. "(Another investigator)
wanted to know whether any specific action had been taken by us with
respect to them."

No further action beyond the initial seizures was ever taken, and the
newly-confirmed records went unseen by the American people for six decades.

What Does It All Mean?

So why are the documents relevant today?

"The story of Prescott Bush and Brown Brothers Harriman is an
introduction to the real history of our country," says L.A. art book
publisher and historian Edward Boswell. "It exposes the money-making
motives behind our foreign policies, dating back a full century. The
ability of Prescott Bush and the Harrimans to bury their checkered pasts
also reveals a collusion between Wall Street and the media that exists
to this day."

Sheldon Drobny, a Chicago entrepreneur and philanthropist who will soon
launch a liberal talk radio network, says the importance of the new
documents is that they prove a long pattern of Bush family war
profiteering that continues today via George H.W. Bush's intimate
relationship with the Saudi royal family and the bin Ladens, conducted
via the super-secret Carlyle Group, whose senior advisers include former
U.S. Secretary of State James A. Baker III.

In the post-9/11 world, Drobny finds the Bush-Saudi connection deeply
troubling. "Trading with the enemy is trading with the enemy," he says.
"That's the relevance of the documents and what they show."

Lawrence Lader, an abortion rights activist and the author of more than
40 books, says "the relevance lies with the fact that the sitting
President of the United States would lead the nation to war based on
lies and against the wishes of the rest of the world." Lader and others
draw comparisons between President Bush's invasion of Iraq and Hitler's
occupation of Poland in 1939 - the event that sparked World War Two.

However, others see an even larger significance.

"The discovery of the Bush-Nazi documents raises new questions about the
role of Prescott Bush and his influential business partners in the
secret emigration of Nazi war criminals, which allowed them to escape
justice in Germany," says Bob Fertik, co-founder of Democrats.com and an
amateur 'Nazi hunter.' "It also raises questions about the importance of
Nazi recruits to the CIA in its early years, in what was called
Operation Paperclip, and Prescott Bush's role in that dark operation."

Fertik and others, including former Justice Department Nazi war crimes
prosecutor John Loftus, a Constitutional attorney in Miami, and a former
Veterans Administration official, believe Prescott Bush and the
Harrimans should have been tried for treason.

What Next?

Now, say Fertik and Loftus, there should be a Congressional
investigation into the Bush family's Nazi past and its concealment from
the American people for 60 years.

"The American people have a right to know, in detail, about this hidden
chapter of our history," says Loftus, author of The Secret War Against
the Jews. "That's the only way we can understand it and deal with it."

For his part, Fertik is pessimistic that even a Congressional
investigation can thwart the war profiteering of the present Bush White
House. "It's impossible to stop it," he says, "when the worst war
profiteers are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, who operate in secrecy
behind the vast powers of the White House."

---

John Buchanan is a journalist and magazine writer based in Miami Beach.
He can be reached by e-mail at .

Stacey Michael is a New Orleans-based journalist and the author of
Religious Conceit. His most recent book is Weapons of Mass Dysfunction:
The Art of "Faith-Based" Politics, due in early 2004. He can be reached
by email at
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jim,,
Did you read and understand these articles?

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http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/...ush_nazis.html

Title

How the Bush family made its fortune from the Nazis

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Pa...yBuy_Bush.html

Title

Bush family finances:Best democracy money can buy

http://www.sptimes.com/News/102900/B..._bailout.shtml

Title

Influence and bailouts a business tradition in Bush family

http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiogr...a/whoisgwb.htm

Title
Who is George W. Bush?

http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHG..._Bush_ Nazi_2

title

“Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951” - Federal Documents




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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:50:37 GMT, "Jim," posted a lot more
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:50:37 GMT, "Jim," posted a lot more
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Hey that was posted by request


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Jim,,,
Did you read up on Fritz Thyssen, the industrialist who Bush had a business
relationship and is the topic of the Bush and Nazi's articles? Thyssen was
a financial supporter of the Nazi's because he believed the labor unions
were becoming too strong and was concerned that socialism was taking over
Europe. Fritz became disenfranchised from the Nazi's because he disagreed
with their armament policy, and their treatment of Jews and Catholics.
After the 1939 Night of Crystal (Kristallnacht), he resigned from the Nazi
party and fled to Switzerland. He eventually returned to Germany, his anti
Nazi writings resulted in Fritz Thyssen being imprisoned from 1941 - 1945.

It looks to me that Bush was supporting a very good German, and he should be
commended for managing his investments.


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http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/...ush_nazis.html

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How the Bush family made its fortune from the Nazis

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Pa...yBuy_Bush.html

Title

Bush family finances:Best democracy money can buy

http://www.sptimes.com/News/102900/B..._bailout.shtml

Title

Influence and bailouts a business tradition in Bush family

http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiogr...a/whoisgwb.htm

Title
Who is George W. Bush?

http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHG..._Bush_ Nazi_2

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“Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951” - Federal Documents



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