Chuck,
There is no Trust Fund. What we need is a lockbox. ; )


wrote in message
oups.com...
Social Security comes out of the "SS Trust Fund", so is off budget?


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Something about Google prevents me from posting links here.

If your do a search on Federal Budget Pie Chart you will find examples
where 50-55% is labeled for entitlements that always include social
security.

I had a good link, but for some reason I couldn't post it.

Maybe the charts are "federal expenditure" vs. federal budget.
They're easy to find

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:47:02 -0400, "JimH" wrote:

Ignore them.

SHUN THEM!!!

MAKE THEM OUTCASTS!!!

SHAME THEM!!!

Bill McKee wrote:
I thought we had a Social Security Trust Fund.

No, you didn't. Even after receiving lots of proof, you just shoved your
head deeper in the sand and kept on isnisting that not only do we not
have a SS Trust Fund, but that the SS Trust Fund we don't have is
invested in "worthless" U.S. bonds.


... Seems as if a lot of posters
here were telling us that. I guess, I was just mis informed.

Yep. But if you actually learned something, you'd have to shed some
prejudices and change some of your opinions... and we *KNOW* that ain't
gonna ever happen...

DSK

Sure, we shouldn't harden our hearts to the suffering of the poor or
the
disabled, that's a horrible thing to do...but why is it the
government's
job to deal with that, rather than the work of private charity? Why
can't
we help without being forced at the point of a gun (and do not deny
that
it is at gunpoint, else what would the IRS' own SWAT teams for, and why

does the US government arm IRS agents?)

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Private charities can and should relieve some of the immediate
suffering.

The role of government is to create and ensure a just society. Only
government can do that.
Example: Until the government passed anti-discrimination laws, certain
groups of people were relegated to 2nd or 3rd class status without
recourse or equitable opportunity for advancement. It was the way
"things have always been". Churches had been "preaching" against
discrimination for 100 years, all the while distributing basekts of
food and worn out clothing to the very same populations the parishoners
were discriminating against on a daily basis.

To say, "Those folks who choose to go to church can deal with the
social problems and the rest of us shouldn't have to worry about them
at all" is a very narrow viewpoint.

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
I thought we had a Social Security Trust Fund.

No, you didn't. Even after receiving lots of proof, you just shoved your
head deeper in the sand and kept on isnisting that not only do we not have
a SS Trust Fund, but that the SS Trust Fund we don't have is invested in
"worthless" U.S. bonds.


... Seems as if a lot of posters here were telling us that. I guess, I
was just mis informed.

Yep. But if you actually learned something, you'd have to shed some
prejudices and change some of your opinions... and we *KNOW* that ain't
gonna ever happen...

DSK


You still are ignorant as hell. And notice no smiley face on this post.
There is no trust fund!!! If there was a "Trust Fund" they would not be
spending that money for everyday running of the government. In the private
world, you go to jail for running a trust fund that way.