yeah, geocities.

shen, you don't seem to have enough intelligenc to be able to figure out --
on
your best day -- that eric made that quote up.

You're hilarious. First, you don't even know who you're responding to.
And second, if you actually had enough "intelligenc" to do a google
search you'd see that he didn't make it up at all, that it's a verbatim
cut'n'paste from he

http://www.geocities.com/minuteman_missile/specs.htm

So tell me again how ICBMs have no navigation system...

Steve

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.

Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target as
they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.

On 19 Mar 2004 15:21:12 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

yeah, geocities.

Well, at least we now know that you know you were wrong when you said he
made that quote up. But since you don't like geocities, how about these
for starters:

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=113

LGM-30 MINUTEMAN III
Primary Function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance systems: Inertial system


http://www.strategic-air-command.com..._Home_Page.htm

Peacekeeper
Primary function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance system: Inertial

....the MX's extremely accurate guidance--an inertial system capable of
being updated in flight by signals from navigation satellites...

Damn Jax, if you were only smart enough to do a google search on "ICBM
navigation system" you'd realize how wrong you are.

Steve

shen, you don't seem to have enough intelligenc to be able to figure out --
on
your best day -- that eric made that quote up.

You're hilarious. First, you don't even know who you're responding to.
And second, if you actually had enough "intelligenc" to do a google
search you'd see that he didn't make it up at all, that it's a verbatim
cut'n'paste from he

http://www.geocities.com/minuteman_missile/specs.htm

So tell me again how ICBMs have no navigation system...

Steve

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.

Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target as
they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.

schlackoff, English even as a third language is way beyond you. You are
FORBIDDEN to own an EPIRB. Let Darwin teach you how to navigate.

now, about that NewSpeak you found -- the one that change the word "ballistic"
to "guided" without changing the word, AND the one that changes the word
"intercontinental" to "short range" without changing the word ...



yeah, geocities.

Well, at least we now know that you know you were wrong when you said he
made that quote up. But since you don't like geocities, how about these
for starters:

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=113

LGM-30 MINUTEMAN III
Primary Function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance systems: Inertial system



http://www.strategic-air-command.com...eacekeeper_Mis
sile_Home_Page.htm

Peacekeeper
Primary function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance system: Inertial

...the MX's extremely accurate guidance--an inertial system capable of
being updated in flight by signals from navigation satellites...

Damn Jax, if you were only smart enough to do a google search on "ICBM
navigation system" you'd realize how wrong you are.

Steve

shen, you don't seem to have enough intelligenc to be able to figure out
--
on
your best day -- that eric made that quote up.

You're hilarious. First, you don't even know who you're responding to.
And second, if you actually had enough "intelligenc" to do a google
search you'd see that he didn't make it up at all, that it's a verbatim
cut'n'paste from he

http://www.geocities.com/minuteman_missile/specs.htm

So tell me again how ICBMs have no navigation system...

Steve

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.

Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing
straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target
as
they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.

Titan II Intercontinental Ballistic Missle (ICBM)

http://home.teleport.com/~boelling/titanD.html

ICBM's were powered during 1/6th of their flight and were directed by
inertial guidence systems during that portion of the flight.

sorry Jax.

On 19 Mar 2004 17:33:40 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, English even as a third language is way beyond you. You are
FORBIDDEN to own an EPIRB. Let Darwin teach you how to navigate.

now, about that NewSpeak you found -- the one that change the word "ballistic"
to "guided" without changing the word, AND the one that changes the word
"intercontinental" to "short range" without changing the word ...



yeah, geocities.

Well, at least we now know that you know you were wrong when you said he
made that quote up. But since you don't like geocities, how about these
for starters:

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=113

LGM-30 MINUTEMAN III
Primary Function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance systems: Inertial system



http://www.strategic-air-command.com...eacekeeper_Mis
sile_Home_Page.htm

Peacekeeper
Primary function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance system: Inertial

...the MX's extremely accurate guidance--an inertial system capable of
being updated in flight by signals from navigation satellites...

Damn Jax, if you were only smart enough to do a google search on "ICBM
navigation system" you'd realize how wrong you are.

Steve

shen, you don't seem to have enough intelligenc to be able to figure out
--
on
your best day -- that eric made that quote up.

You're hilarious. First, you don't even know who you're responding to.
And second, if you actually had enough "intelligenc" to do a google
search you'd see that he didn't make it up at all, that it's a verbatim
cut'n'paste from he

http://www.geocities.com/minuteman_missile/specs.htm

So tell me again how ICBMs have no navigation system...

Steve

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.

Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing
straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target
as
they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
idiot, the difference is neglible in the context.

before you responde, look up -- AND understand -- each word.

(basskisser)

Oh, I totally understand the differences between planar and spherical
mathematics. I also understand that you are foolish if you think that,
when measuring distances across the earth's surface, there is
absolutely no way that planar math will give you the correct distance.
No more that than in ANY circle. The chord length will ALWAYS be
shorter than the arc length of the same segment. Do you disagree with
this statement? If so, how?

bass, **IN THE CONTEXT** given, the difference in distance over 120 nm is about
0.000872225 miles, or a little over 3 feet.

Oh, I totally understand the differences between planar and spherical
mathematics. I also understand that you are foolish if you think that,
when measuring distances across the earth's surface, there is
absolutely no way that planar math will give you the correct distance.
No more that than in ANY circle. The chord length will ALWAYS be
shorter than the arc length of the same segment. Do you disagree with
this statement? If so, how?

From an English language dictionary.

note how the term differs from a *guided* missile, which is NOT thrown.
"ballistic" is the term that differeniates the two weapons.


ICBM
abbr.

intercontinental ballistic missile

inter-
pref.

Between; among: international
bal·lis·tic
adj.

Of or relating to the study of the dynamics of projectiles

pro·jec·tile
n.

A fired, thrown, or otherwise propelled object, such as a bullet, having no
capacity for self-propulsion.
A self-propelled missile, such as a rocket.

On 19 Mar 2004 17:33:40 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, English even as a third language is way beyond you. You are
FORBIDDEN to own an EPIRB. Let Darwin teach you how to navigate.

now, about that NewSpeak you found -- the one that change the word "ballistic"
to "guided" without changing the word, AND the one that changes the word
"intercontinental" to "short range" without changing the word ...

You're too funny Jax. According to your strict definition, a bullet is
not ballistic either since it's guided by the gun barrel for the initial
portion of it's flight and travels in a straight line, not a ballistic
flight path, for that portion of it's journey to the target.

Well, an ICBM is just like a bullet. It's guided for the initial
portion of it's trip to the target and follows a ballistic trajectory
for the final portion. The only difference is that the bullet's
guidance system is the barrel and the ICBM's is an inertial navigation
system or now GPS.

JaxSpeak is certainly a strange language. Are you now going to try and
claim that a bullet fired from a gun is not ballistic since it's guided
by the barrel?

Steve

yeah, geocities.

Well, at least we now know that you know you were wrong when you said he
made that quote up. But since you don't like geocities, how about these
for starters:

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=113

LGM-30 MINUTEMAN III
Primary Function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance systems: Inertial system



http://www.strategic-air-command.com...eacekeeper_Mis
sile_Home_Page.htm

Peacekeeper
Primary function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance system: Inertial

...the MX's extremely accurate guidance--an inertial system capable of
being updated in flight by signals from navigation satellites...

Damn Jax, if you were only smart enough to do a google search on "ICBM
navigation system" you'd realize how wrong you are.

Steve

shen, you don't seem to have enough intelligenc to be able to figure out
--
on
your best day -- that eric made that quote up.

You're hilarious. First, you don't even know who you're responding to.
And second, if you actually had enough "intelligenc" to do a google
search you'd see that he didn't make it up at all, that it's a verbatim
cut'n'paste from he

http://www.geocities.com/minuteman_missile/specs.htm

So tell me again how ICBMs have no navigation system...

Steve

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.

Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing
straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target
as
they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.

Jaxie's original "context" was actually simply mathematics. His "planar"
comment was part of the great "3 dimensional vector" discussion, where jaxie
revealed his ignorance in a variety of disciplines. (The ICBM comment was also
from that.)

His actual comment was:

"btw, if vectors are "3 dimensional", just how can they be used at a point on
the Earth's surface (which by definition is planer)."


And on ICBM's:
"An Inter Continental Ballistic Missile is "ballistic" and thus has no
navigation system."


And, of course, jaxie just made up his "answer," and was wrong by a few orders
of magnitude. The difference between a Rhumb Line and a Great Circle route can
be a tenth of a mile on a 120 mile trip, and almost a degree on initial heading
at mid latitudes. Not a great difference, I'd argue that there are difference
aspects of the "non-planar" nature of the ocean that are of more relevance to
the coastal sailor. In fact, one sees the effect on any trip longer than a few
miles.

Of course, near the poles this could be more significant At 70 N, for
instance, to go 100 miles East your heading should be 87.6 degrees.



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
bass, **IN THE CONTEXT** given, the difference in distance over 120 nm is
about
0.000872225 miles, or a little over 3 feet.

Oh, I totally understand the differences between planar and spherical
mathematics. I also understand that you are foolish if you think that,
when measuring distances across the earth's surface, there is
absolutely no way that planar math will give you the correct distance.
No more that than in ANY circle. The chord length will ALWAYS be
shorter than the arc length of the same segment. Do you disagree with
this statement? If so, how?

You're too funny Jax. According to your strict definition, a bullet is
not ballistic either since it's guided by the gun barrel for the initial
portion of it's flight and travels in a straight line, not a ballistic
flight path, for that portion of it's journey to the target.

ballistic

\Bal*lis"tic\, a. 1. Of or pertaining to the ballista, or to the art of hurling
stones or missile weapons by means of an engine.


ballistic

adj : relating to or characteristic of the motion of objects moving under their
own momentum and the force of gravity; "ballistic missile"