http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4568982/

extract

“Rumsfeld was saying we needed to bomb Iraq,” Clarke said. “We all said,
'But no, no, al-Qaida is in Afghanistan.”

Clarke, who is expected to testify Tuesday before a federal panel
reviewing the attacks, said Rumsfeld complained in the meeting that
“there aren’t any good targets in Afghanistan and there are lots of good
targets in Iraq.”

LOVE that logic!

Jim wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4568982/

extract

“Rumsfeld was saying we needed to bomb Iraq,” Clarke said. “We all said,
'But no, no, al-Qaida is in Afghanistan.”

Clarke, who is expected to testify Tuesday before a federal panel
reviewing the attacks, said Rumsfeld complained in the meeting that
“there aren’t any good targets in Afghanistan and there are lots of good
targets in Iraq.”

LOVE that logic!


The Bush administration is nothing more than a collection of
war-mongering whores.

John H wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 20:47:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


Jim wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4568982/

extract

“Rumsfeld was saying we needed to bomb Iraq,” Clarke said. “We all said,
'But no, no, al-Qaida is in Afghanistan.”

Clarke, who is expected to testify Tuesday before a federal panel
reviewing the attacks, said Rumsfeld complained in the meeting that
“there aren’t any good targets in Afghanistan and there are lots of good
targets in Iraq.”

LOVE that logic!


The Bush administration is nothing more than a collection of
war-mongering whores.


Go to bed, or tell me about your lobsta boat.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


Just play with your little google, John, and you will find the
information you seek.

Meanwhile, your president and his administration are still nothing more
than warmongering whores.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 20:47:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Jim wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4568982/

extract

“Rumsfeld was saying we needed to bomb Iraq,” Clarke said. “We all said,
'But no, no, al-Qaida is in Afghanistan.”

Clarke, who is expected to testify Tuesday before a federal panel
reviewing the attacks, said Rumsfeld complained in the meeting that
“there aren’t any good targets in Afghanistan and there are lots of good
targets in Iraq.”

LOVE that logic!


The Bush administration is nothing more than a collection of
war-mongering whores.

Go to bed, or tell me about your lobsta boat.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 20:51:42 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 20:47:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


Jim wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4568982/

extract

“Rumsfeld was saying we needed to bomb Iraq,” Clarke said. “We all said,
'But no, no, al-Qaida is in Afghanistan.”

Clarke, who is expected to testify Tuesday before a federal panel
reviewing the attacks, said Rumsfeld complained in the meeting that
“there aren’t any good targets in Afghanistan and there are lots of good
targets in Iraq.”

LOVE that logic!


The Bush administration is nothing more than a collection of
war-mongering whores.


Go to bed, or tell me about your lobsta boat.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


Just play with your little google, John, and you will find the
information you seek.

Meanwhile, your president and his administration are still nothing more
than warmongering whores.

There must be an interesting history behind the lobsta boat. You won't
tell me about it. I wouldn't know how to google it up.

In times of war, it's better to have a warmongering whore than a
flip-flopping peacenik whore. Right?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:

Just play with your little google, John, and you will find the
information you seek.

Meanwhile, your president and his administration are still nothing more
than warmongering whores.


There must be an interesting history behind the lobsta boat. You won't
tell me about it. I wouldn't know how to google it up.

It's there. Expend some effort.




In times of war, it's better to have a warmongering whore than a
flip-flopping peacenik whore. Right?


We're in a war of Bush's making, and he doesn't know how to conduct it.
The enemy is not in Iraq or Afghanistan. The enemy is everywhere, and
Bush will never ever win the war with his current methodology.

We need a smarter administration than what we have now. Bush has to go.
He's simply too frippin' stupid. As are those who blindly support him.


So you are supporting a flip-flopping gigolo who is rather dense also?

"Calif Bill" wrote in message thlink.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:

Just play with your little google, John, and you will find the
information you seek.

Meanwhile, your president and his administration are still nothing more
than warmongering whores.


There must be an interesting history behind the lobsta boat. You won't
tell me about it. I wouldn't know how to google it up.

It's there. Expend some effort.




In times of war, it's better to have a warmongering whore than a
flip-flopping peacenik whore. Right?


We're in a war of Bush's making, and he doesn't know how to conduct it.
The enemy is not in Iraq or Afghanistan. The enemy is everywhere, and
Bush will never ever win the war with his current methodology.

We need a smarter administration than what we have now. Bush has to go.
He's simply too frippin' stupid. As are those who blindly support him.


So you are supporting a flip-flopping gigolo who is rather dense also?

Here are some examples of a flip-flopping "gigolo".:
In fairness to all of the goose-stepping republicans, who think that
Kerry flip-flops on the issues,
I did a few minutes of research, to take a look at what Bush has
flip-flopped on, and Kerry doesn't hold a
candle to Bush, when it comes to hemming and hawing:

Here, he flip-flops on his stance on chemical weapons bans:

Last October, shortly after Iraqi President Saddam Hussein renewed his
threats to use poison gas if attacked, George Bush took to the podium
of the U.N. General Assembly to restate support for what he often says
is one of his top arms control priorities: a global ban on the use,
possession, and production of chemical weapons. "The Gulf crisis
proves how important it is . . . to act now to conclude an absolute
worldwide ban on these weapons," Bush said. The speech marked the
second time that the president drew on the prestige of the General
Assembly to call attention to his stated commitment to chemical
disarmament, a plea that echoes candidate Bush's campaign pledge to
rid the world of the "scourge" of poison gas.

But the high priority Bush routinely gives to chemical weapons in
speeches has yet to be matched by actions at the 40-nation talks on
chemical weapons at the Conference on Disarmament in Geneva, which are
slated to reopen in February. The negotiations, said Cong. Martin
Lancaster, a North Carolina Democrat who is a member of the
congressional arms control observer group, are "in trouble." And
according to most accounts, the major source of the problems is a
joint U.S.-Soviet proposed revision to the current working text of the
chemical treaty which could postpone or even prevent complete chemical
weapons disarmament.

The controversial revision--offered by Washington and Moscow during
the last round of talks which concluded in August--consists of four
paragraphs that would make two key changes to the current draft.
First, complete chemical disarmament over a ten-year period would no
longer be automatic. Instead, countries with chemical arsenals would
be allowed under certain conditions to retain up to 500 tons of nerve
gas, which is two percent of the current U.S. level

Here, Bush flip-flops on his stance on global warming, and air
pollution:

Wednesday, Mar. 14, 2001
President Bush may be reneging on his campaign promises on air
pollution, but in doing so he may also be presenting the American
people with a more honest depiction of its environmental dilemma.
Following intensive lobbying by the energy industry and a policy
review by Vice President Cheney, the White House on Tuesday backed
away from a Bush campaign pledge to regulate power plants' output of
carbon dioxide — the gas whose massive buildup inside the Earth's
atmosphere is believed by most scientists to create the "greenhouse
effect" that causes global warming.

Bush's flip-flop on abortion:

Published on Friday, June 16, 2000 in The Nation
Bush's Abortion Flip-Flop?
by David Corn

Which current candidate for President reversed the abortion stand he
espoused as a Congressional candidate in the seventies and adopted a
position more acceptable to the mainstream of his party? If you said
Al Gore, you may be only half right. George W. Bush appears to have
done the same.
In 1978, Bush, a 31-year-old oilman, was seeking the Republican
nomination in Texas' 19th Congressional District, which included
Midland, Odessa and Lubbock. He was locked in a fierce battle with Jim
Reese, a veteran campaigner and Reagan Republican. Days before the
June 3 primary runoff, Bush was interviewed by a reporter for the
Lubbock Avalanche-Journal. Reese had attacked Bush for being cozy with
liberal Rockefeller Republicans. In response, Bush listed conservative
positions he held. "I'm not for the extension of the time to ratify
the Equal Rights Amendment," he told the paper. "I feel the ERA is
unnecessary. I'm not for the federal funding of abortions. I've done
nothing to promote homosexuality in our society." But he went on to
explain his view on abortion. The Avalanche-Journal reported: "Bush
said he opposes the pro-life amendment favored by Reese and favors
leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question. 'That does
not mean I'm for abortion,' he said."


Here, he flipped and flopped on the business fraud bill:

New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com
Bush does flip-flop,
hails biz fraud bill he ripped
By TIMOTHY J. BURGER
and THOMAS M. DeFRANK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
Wednesday, July 24th, 2002

WASHINGTON - President Bush, battered by Wall Street scandals and a
wildly gyrating stock market, hailed the completion yesterday of a
tough corporate reform bill that only weeks ago he complained went too
far.
Imposing harsh penalties for corporate fraud and coverups, the
agreement between the Democrat-controlled Senate and the GOP House
enabled both parties to claim credit for cleaning up the aura of
corporate wrongdoing that has shaken investors and threatened Bush's
leadership ratings.

The cleanup deal came a few hours before another corporate stunner - a
Securities and Exchange Commission inquiry into financial gamesmanship
at media giant AOL Time Warner.

Bush moved quickly to embrace the final product after having warned
Congress that he felt such legislation was too tough on Wall Street.
After meeting with congressional leaders to discuss the remaining
legislative agenda before the August recess, Bush hailed what he
called "a day of action and a day of accomplishment in Washington,
D.C."

"This government ... will investigate, will arrest and will prosecute
corporate executives who break the law. And the Justice Department
took action today," the President said, referring to the arrest of
Adelphia Communications execs.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said Bush "looks forward to
signing this into law."

House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.), meanwhile, claimed credit
for his party, eager to use the corporate fraud issue to help seize
House control in November.

"The [Democrat] bill, which passed the Senate 97 to 0, was finally
accepted by House Republicans after dragging their feet for weeks and
weeks, months and months," he said.

The Senate and House quickly hammered out differences in competing
bills once the stock market began to plummet and unveiled their deal
yesterday.

The compromise bill creates an independent board overseeing corporate
management and the outside auditors who review the balance sheets
companies file with regulators.

It also would block auditing firms from selling other lucrative
consulting services to their auditing clients - a major change
previously beaten back by members of Congress in both parties before
auditors were blamed for helping Enron and WorldCom brass dupe
investors.

The bill includes an amendment by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) to ban
corporate officers from borrowing money from their companies. It also
imposes prison time and financial penalties on company officers
convicted of fraud and allows authorities to seize ill-gotten gains.

But the new law covers only future abuses and would not apply to
allegations of sleazy conduct by ex-CEOs Ken Lay of Enron and Bernard
Ebbers of WorldCom.

Their are other items he's flipped on, such as letting, or not letting
non-coalition countries bid on Iraq contracts.

Or his flip flop on whether he would, or would not negotiate with
Korea.

Or, when he claimed the United Nations "irrelevent", but is now
begging them to take over in Iraq.

He flip-flopped on Steel Tariffs.

And the ultimate, where he's flip-flopped more than an alligator doing
a death roll, the reason why we went to war with Iraq!!!