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The acute embarrassment the children felt was due to the stupidity of the
guides, not the figurehead. "Chris Brady" wrote in message om... Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment to school-children. During a visit to South Street Seaport Museum in New York, the Dutch-built tall ship "Stad Amsterdam" caused much embarrassment to the young folk of the city with its figurehead. In an episode very reminiscent of "boobgate" ( http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ent&q=Boobgate ) school children had to be diverted away from the front end of the ship lest they should catch sight of it's traditional figurehead - a young woman with flowing hair and BARE breasts. As reported: "The painted figure on the bow of the ship, a woman with long red hair in a green dress with one breast bared, caused a stir when the ship docked in, where the ship's publicity staff had to divert a group of schoolchildren so they would not pass by it." This is what the fuss was all about: http://www.stadamsterdam.com/en/partners/partners.asp Such figureheads are of course entirely traditional for tall ships - amounting to a harmless pagan offering to ensure calm seas and following winds, and indeed have always been so for hundreds of years. And in the Netherlands a naked female figurehead would have caused no concern whatsoever. Unfortunately in a country where the moral right reigns supreme such a sight was certainly not acceptable and as widely reported the school children had to be directed away from such a scandalous sight. But this does beggar the imagination as to what the sailors of old, who used to dock their ships at US ports and ports around the world, would have made of all this. Their prime concern after a voyage would have been to visit the local brothels where they would have seen much more than the bare breasts of the local women!! More at: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/22/nyregion/22ship.html Additional web sites at: http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me... =figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nmm.ac.uk/site/request/se.../contentId/219 http://www.seascout.net/pa/pa-25/figureheads.html http://www.figureheads.co.uk/ CJB |
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What kid from NYC would be embarassed by a wooden tit? They see hookers on
the streets, porno shops every 3rd block, people being mugged. They see the likes of Jax! They see much worse than that on TV. SV "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... The acute embarrassment the children felt was due to the stupidity of the guides, not the figurehead. "Chris Brady" wrote in message om... Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment to school-children. During a visit to South Street Seaport Museum in New York, the Dutch-built tall ship "Stad Amsterdam" caused much embarrassment to the young folk of the city with its figurehead. In an episode very reminiscent of "boobgate" ( http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ent&q=Boobgate ) school children had to be diverted away from the front end of the ship lest they should catch sight of it's traditional figurehead - a young woman with flowing hair and BARE breasts. As reported: "The painted figure on the bow of the ship, a woman with long red hair in a green dress with one breast bared, caused a stir when the ship docked in, where the ship's publicity staff had to divert a group of schoolchildren so they would not pass by it." This is what the fuss was all about: http://www.stadamsterdam.com/en/partners/partners.asp Such figureheads are of course entirely traditional for tall ships - amounting to a harmless pagan offering to ensure calm seas and following winds, and indeed have always been so for hundreds of years. And in the Netherlands a naked female figurehead would have caused no concern whatsoever. Unfortunately in a country where the moral right reigns supreme such a sight was certainly not acceptable and as widely reported the school children had to be directed away from such a scandalous sight. But this does beggar the imagination as to what the sailors of old, who used to dock their ships at US ports and ports around the world, would have made of all this. Their prime concern after a voyage would have been to visit the local brothels where they would have seen much more than the bare breasts of the local women!! More at: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/22/nyregion/22ship.html Additional web sites at: http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...=CTGY&Store_Co de=N&Category_Code=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...=PROD&Store_Co de=N&Product_Code=n4220&Category_Code=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...=PROD&Store_Co de=N&Product_Code=N4234&Category_Code=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...=PROD&Store_Co de=N&Product_Code=n4223&Category_Code=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...=PROD&Store_Co de=N&Product_Code=n4222&Category_Code=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...=PROD&Store_Co de=N&Product_Code=n4204&Category_Code=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...=PROD&Store_Co de=N&Product_Code=N4237&Category_Code=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...=PROD&Store_Co de=N&Product_Code=n-SM&Category_Code=figureheads http://www.nmm.ac.uk/site/request/se...ntentTypeA/con WebDoc/contentId/219 http://www.seascout.net/pa/pa-25/figureheads.html http://www.figureheads.co.uk/ CJB |
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
The acute embarrassment the children felt was due to the stupidity of the guides, not the figurehead. Gotta love tolerance and respect for those with different views... Typical of the arrogance of the intolerant. "Chris Brady" wrote in message om... Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment to school-children. During a visit to South Street Seaport Museum in New York, the Dutch-built tall ship "Stad Amsterdam" caused much embarrassment to the young folk of the city with its figurehead. In an episode very reminiscent of "boobgate" ( http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ent&q=Boobgate ) school children had to be diverted away from the front end of the ship lest they should catch sight of it's traditional figurehead - a young woman with flowing hair and BARE breasts. As reported: "The painted figure on the bow of the ship, a woman with long red hair in a green dress with one breast bared, caused a stir when the ship docked in, where the ship's publicity staff had to divert a group of schoolchildren so they would not pass by it." This is what the fuss was all about: http://www.stadamsterdam.com/en/partners/partners.asp Such figureheads are of course entirely traditional for tall ships - amounting to a harmless pagan offering to ensure calm seas and following winds, and indeed have always been so for hundreds of years. And in the Netherlands a naked female figurehead would have caused no concern whatsoever. Unfortunately in a country where the moral right reigns supreme such a sight was certainly not acceptable and as widely reported the school children had to be directed away from such a scandalous sight. But this does beggar the imagination as to what the sailors of old, who used to dock their ships at US ports and ports around the world, would have made of all this. Their prime concern after a voyage would have been to visit the local brothels where they would have seen much more than the bare breasts of the local women!! More at: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/22/nyregion/22ship.html Additional web sites at: http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me... =figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nmm.ac.uk/site/request/se.../contentId/219 http://www.seascout.net/pa/pa-25/figureheads.html http://www.figureheads.co.uk/ CJB |
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"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message
om... "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... The acute embarrassment the children felt was due to the stupidity of the guides, not the figurehead. Gotta love tolerance and respect for those with different views... Typical of the arrogance of the intolerant. You may be right. After all, breasts were not intended for children. |
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message om... "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... The acute embarrassment the children felt was due to the stupidity of the guides, not the figurehead. Gotta love tolerance and respect for those with different views... Typical of the arrogance of the intolerant. You may be right. After all, breasts were not intended for children. Irrelevant, but I guess you sounded good to yourself. Like I said, snide remarks from those who would tell me how to raise my children... Never said I was against the tit, my girls all know what tits are... Pay close attention here Jeffie... I don't want others telling me how to raise my childeren any more than you want me telling you who to sleep with... |
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So are you claiming that statues, figureheads, and other artwork should be
covered because you find it offensive? I find this amusing because on Sunday I took my 8 year old daughter to a performance of the Shanghai Circus at Boston's Symphony Hall. My daughter and her friend giggled a bit when they noticed the nude statues, male and female, that line the walls, but otherwise paid little attention to them. Are you claiming that the statues should be clothed? Would you walk out if you went there for a performance? Do you want your children's teachers to tell them that such things are offensive and should be avoided? Frankly, reading your posts I have no idea what you are saying, except you seem offended by something. "Backyard Renegade" wrote in message Irrelevant, but I guess you sounded good to yourself. Like I said, snide remarks from those who would tell me how to raise my children... Never said I was against the tit, my girls all know what tits are... Pay close attention here Jeffie... I don't want others telling me how to raise my childeren any more than you want me telling you who to sleep with... |
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message om... "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... The acute embarrassment the children felt was due to the stupidity of the guides, not the figurehead. Gotta love tolerance and respect for those with different views... Typical of the arrogance of the intolerant. You may be right. After all, breasts were not intended for children. Haahaa!!! That's a GOOD one!! |
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Was Ashcroft one of the students?
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Chris Brady" wrote in message om... Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment to school-children. During a visit to South Street Seaport Museum in New York, the Dutch-built tall ship "Stad Amsterdam" caused much embarrassment to the young folk of the city with its figurehead. In an episode very reminiscent of "boobgate" ( http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ent&q=Boobgate ) school children had to be diverted away from the front end of the ship lest they should catch sight of it's traditional figurehead - a young woman with flowing hair and BARE breasts. As reported: "The painted figure on the bow of the ship, a woman with long red hair in a green dress with one breast bared, caused a stir when the ship docked in, where the ship's publicity staff had to divert a group of schoolchildren so they would not pass by it." This is what the fuss was all about: http://www.stadamsterdam.com/en/partners/partners.asp Such figureheads are of course entirely traditional for tall ships - amounting to a harmless pagan offering to ensure calm seas and following winds, and indeed have always been so for hundreds of years. And in the Netherlands a naked female figurehead would have caused no concern whatsoever. Unfortunately in a country where the moral right reigns supreme such a sight was certainly not acceptable and as widely reported the school children had to be directed away from such a scandalous sight. But this does beggar the imagination as to what the sailors of old, who used to dock their ships at US ports and ports around the world, would have made of all this. Their prime concern after a voyage would have been to visit the local brothels where they would have seen much more than the bare breasts of the local women!! More at: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/22/nyregion/22ship.html Additional web sites at: http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me... =figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads http://www.nmm.ac.uk/site/request/se.../contentId/219 http://www.seascout.net/pa/pa-25/figureheads.html http://www.figureheads.co.uk/ CJB |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:
Was Ashcroft one of the students? "Ashcroft" and "students" in the same sentence reminds me of a joke: Attorney General Ashcroft is visiting an elementary school. After a brief speech, he announces, "All right, boys and girls, now you can ask me questions." A young boy named Bobby raises his hand and says, "I have three questions: 1. How did Bush win the election with fewer votes than Gore? 2. Why are you using the USA Patriot Act to limit Americans' civil liberties and violate the Constitution? 3. Why hasn't the U.S. caught Osama Bin Laden yet?" Just then the recess bell sounds and all the kids run out to the playground. After recess, the kids come back to class and Ashcroft says, "I'm sorry we were interrupted. Now you can continue with your questions." A young girl raises her hand and says, "I have two questions: 1. How come the recess bell went off 20 minutes early? 2. Where's Bobby?" |
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