I need to buy new 6 1/2 speakers for my boat (2 pairs) Anyone have any
suggestions. I dont' need components. I was leaning toward Clarion CM1622.
Any input is appreciated!

Thanks!

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"Matt" wrote in message
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I need to buy new 6 1/2 speakers for my boat (2 pairs) Anyone have any
suggestions. I dont' need components. I was leaning toward Clarion
CM1622.
Any input is appreciated!

Thanks!

Save lots of money. Buy an inexpensive set of speakers on sale at Circuit
City, Best Buy, or wherever. Just make sure the cones are not paper. Other
than that, they will last probably longer than you will keep the boat and
save $100 or more. The last set I bought were Jensen for $39.00

--
Tony
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"Matt" wrote in message
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I need to buy new 6 1/2 speakers for my boat (2 pairs) Anyone have any
suggestions. I dont' need components. I was leaning toward Clarion
CM1622.
Any input is appreciated!

Thanks!

"Matt" wrote in message
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I need to buy new 6 1/2 speakers for my boat (2 pairs) Anyone have any
suggestions. I dont' need components. I was leaning toward Clarion
CM1622.
Any input is appreciated!

I went with non-marine Clarions. They really thump. Since Clarion does not
use paper components in their speakers, you will not have any problems going
with non-marine speakers and the sound will be much better.

-RH

Also what other brands don't use paper components? Infinity? JBL? Pioneer?
Sony?

-Matt


"Ryan R. Healy" wrote in message
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"Matt" wrote in message
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I need to buy new 6 1/2 speakers for my boat (2 pairs) Anyone have any
suggestions. I dont' need components. I was leaning toward Clarion
CM1622.
Any input is appreciated!

I went with non-marine Clarions. They really thump. Since Clarion does
not
use paper components in their speakers, you will not have any problems
going
with non-marine speakers and the sound will be much better.

-RH

Most all name brand speakers are not paper anymore. Just look around at any
sterio store.

As for the bow, the speaker grill will keep most water out and what water
does get in won't hurt anything.

I would not get real expensive speakers thought. Because of the problems w/
vibration, moisture, heat, etc.. over time.

--
Tony
My boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com



"Matt" wrote in message
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So really as long as they don't use paper components i shouldn't have a
problem? What about the other parts of the speaker? The two front are
positioned in the bow where it's possible they might get wet / splashed.


"Ryan R. Healy" wrote in message
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"Matt" wrote in message
...
I need to buy new 6 1/2 speakers for my boat (2 pairs) Anyone have
any
suggestions. I dont' need components. I was leaning toward Clarion
CM1622.
Any input is appreciated!

I went with non-marine Clarions. They really thump. Since Clarion does
not
use paper components in their speakers, you will not have any problems
going
with non-marine speakers and the sound will be much better.

-RH

"Matt" wrote in message
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So really as long as they don't use paper components i shouldn't have a
problem? What about the other parts of the speaker? The two front are
positioned in the bow where it's possible they might get wet / splashed.


Matt,

You should have no problems with non-marine speakers. I have quite a few
speakers on my boat, all non-marine Clarion, and never had a problem. I
went with Clarion because they are not the cheapest, not the most expensive
and a decent balance between quality and value. Two speakers in the rear of
the boat are encased in carpet covered speaker boxes. They have all gotten
some degree of wetness over time and I have not had any problems. One even
got directly hosed with a hand-held water gun ... still no problems.

I operate only in fresh water. If you are boating in salt/brakish water,
your mileage may vary. To be honest, I have not seen any main-stream stereo
speakers that contain any paper in a number of years. As with anything
though, keep in mind that the marine environment is pretty harsh on anything
(heavy chop, vibration, water, etc.), and any speaker will likely not last
as long as one operated on dry land it's entire life. Most higher end
speakers (such as the Clarions I have) will likely give you quite a bit of
use before they need to be replaced.

If you are really concerned about moisture, the back half of the speaker is
the part you would want to protect. A small bead of waterproof caulk around
the interior perimeter of the speaker and the bulkhead of where you are
mounting the speaker will keep most water splashes from getting to the rear
of the speaker. The drawback however will be a more difficult time
replacing the speaker when that time eventually comes.

For what it's worth, my system is a 1000 watt system with Kenwood deck,
Eclipse AMP and a variety of Clarion speakers (4x4's and 4x6's). The AMP
was screwed into the inside of a storage compartment that is used for
lifejackets. 2 additional 4x6 speakers were mounted in carpeted speaker
boxes and screwed to the gunwales on each side of the boat back by the rear
lounge. Incidently, Kenwood decks are among the best for shock/skip
resistance, but I still get some CD skipping while in heavier chop.

-RH

Thanks for the detailed response. I just bought a Sony Deck (MP70) little
expensive but it was a gift. It's the front two speakers i'm concerned
about they are underneath the left and right seats in the bow, basically the
rear are covered by a plastic cone type enclosure, but they aren't
extremely tight against the carpet covered storage compartment, i really
don't want to chalk or silicone for the reason you mentioned. I think i'll
take my chances and just try to keep em dry. I was debating between
Clarion's and Infinity Kappas (depending on how good of a deal the kappas
were). As for the rear I'm not concered they shouldn't get directly wet
unless i spray em with a hose.

thanks again for the info,

-matt


"Ryan R. Healy" wrote in message
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"Matt" wrote in message
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So really as long as they don't use paper components i shouldn't have a
problem? What about the other parts of the speaker? The two front are
positioned in the bow where it's possible they might get wet / splashed.


Matt,

You should have no problems with non-marine speakers. I have quite a few
speakers on my boat, all non-marine Clarion, and never had a problem. I
went with Clarion because they are not the cheapest, not the most
expensive
and a decent balance between quality and value. Two speakers in the rear
of
the boat are encased in carpet covered speaker boxes. They have all
gotten
some degree of wetness over time and I have not had any problems. One
even
got directly hosed with a hand-held water gun ... still no problems.

I operate only in fresh water. If you are boating in salt/brakish water,
your mileage may vary. To be honest, I have not seen any main-stream
stereo
speakers that contain any paper in a number of years. As with anything
though, keep in mind that the marine environment is pretty harsh on
anything
(heavy chop, vibration, water, etc.), and any speaker will likely not last
as long as one operated on dry land it's entire life. Most higher end
speakers (such as the Clarions I have) will likely give you quite a bit of
use before they need to be replaced.

If you are really concerned about moisture, the back half of the speaker
is
the part you would want to protect. A small bead of waterproof caulk
around
the interior perimeter of the speaker and the bulkhead of where you are
mounting the speaker will keep most water splashes from getting to the
rear
of the speaker. The drawback however will be a more difficult time
replacing the speaker when that time eventually comes.

For what it's worth, my system is a 1000 watt system with Kenwood deck,
Eclipse AMP and a variety of Clarion speakers (4x4's and 4x6's). The AMP
was screwed into the inside of a storage compartment that is used for
lifejackets. 2 additional 4x6 speakers were mounted in carpeted speaker
boxes and screwed to the gunwales on each side of the boat back by the
rear
lounge. Incidently, Kenwood decks are among the best for shock/skip
resistance, but I still get some CD skipping while in heavier chop.

-RH

"Matt" wrote in message
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Thanks for the detailed response. I just bought a Sony Deck (MP70) little
expensive but it was a gift. It's the front two speakers i'm concerned
about they are underneath the left and right seats in the bow, basically
the
rear are covered by a plastic cone type enclosure, but they aren't
extremely tight against the carpet covered storage compartment, i really
don't want to chalk or silicone for the reason you mentioned. I think
i'll
take my chances and just try to keep em dry. I was debating between
Clarion's and Infinity Kappas (depending on how good of a deal the kappas
were). As for the rear I'm not concered they shouldn't get directly wet
unless i spray em with a hose.


It's impossible to go wrong with Infinity's 3-way Kappa's. I've used
various generations of them for more than 8 years, in multiple boats. Used
them in cars before that. I just upgraded the six I have in my boat to the
latest generation of Kappa's. The Emit tweeters will produce some of the
best highs available in any multi-element speaker. Very accurate sound. I
have found them to be extremely forgiving of being splashed with water.
Mine get splashed regularly from hosing out the cockpit. The ones in the
radar arch are above the cockpit cover, so are exposed to the elements 24/7.
They carry a three-year warranty, but I've never had a failure. They are
very efficient, but if you can power them with a modest amp that will feed
them with a clean 50 watts RMS of power, they'll sound sweet. Just don't
ask them to do the work of a subwoofer. You can only move so much air with
a 6.5" woofer. The three-way 6X9's have the same mid and high frequency
elements, but the larger woofer will give you a slightly better bottom end.
Infinity makes a marine version of the Kappas, but they don't have the Emit
tweeters, which is one of the best things about the 63.5i and 693.5i models.
Since I've had such good luck with the non-marine versions, I didn't see any
reason to go with the lower frequency response of the marine versions. The
Kappa's are a little more money than many other choices, but in my opinion
very well worth it.


http://www.infinitysystems.com/caraudio/product.aspx?ProdId='KAPPA63.5I'&Ser
=KAP&Cat=MEL

"Matt" wrote
What about the other parts of the speaker?

The only reason to buy marine grade speakers is if they're near the
compass. Some marine grade speakers are magnetically shielded for
that reason.