CN,

This is in no way an attempt to defend Harry, but Oxalic Acid is an
excellent cleanser. The MSDS says nothing about it's capability as a
cleaning agent. Lots of cleaning agents are nasty. How about this one that I
use for concrete: http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/HY/hy...oric_acid.html
Nasty stuff, but I'd never use it in my boat g.

--Mike


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
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"Harry.Krause" wrote in message
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Capt. Neal® wrote:

"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
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Over the winter, I stored my sailboat in a shed at our lake.
Unfortunately, the mice took over making it their home.

I have cleaned the boat the best that I can using detergent, but there
are still a lot of areas where the fiberglass is stained.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to eliminate these
stains?

Thanks,
--
Mike Schumann


Mice have fleas. Fleas **** dried blood. In other words - iron i.e. rust
stains.

Your supermarket should have a product called "Wink" in a little brown
bottle. It's great for rust stains. Follow the instructions.

Don't listen to Krause - he's an idiot.

CN


I suspect that I would score 40 points higher than you on any
standardized IQ test, Kneel. You're far closer to "idiot" than I'll ever
be.

Your IQ had better come in around the 190 mark, then. And, from your
multiple stupid posts, I'd say you're lucky to come in at more than half
that number (96 or higher in case you can't cypher it, Harry)

Oxalic Acid is a prime stain removal ingredient, including rust stains,
in many boat clean-up products. Perhaps you might drink some; for you it
might be an alternative to that Sterno you usually sip in between plugs
of your chaw.

It's also dangerous and stupid to use in a boat or on a boat.
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/o6044.htm

Get your head out of your ass, Harry.

CN

In article ,
says...

wrote in message oups.com...
It's also dangerous and stupid to use in a boat or on a boat.
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/o6044.htm

Get your head out of your ass, Harry.

**********

??????

Oxalic acid is the primary ingredient in a number of popular,
effective, and safe when used as directed marine cleaning products.


Maybe so but idiot Harry Krause did not say anything about oxalic based
cleaning products. The fool specified oxalic acid.

CN

It's common knowledge that oxalic acid is the most regularly included
chemical in rust stain removers. The fact that you don't trust yourself
or anyone else to mix and use it safely, only reflects on your limited
capabilities. It doesn't reflect on anyone else's ability to do so
properly and safely.

I have, in fact, purchased oxalic crystals from a paint store where it's
sold across the counter. Prepared it as instructed and diluted it as
recommended.

It was a hell of a lot cheaper and more efficient than anything you can
purchase pre prepared for retail.

Don't let your hatred for Harry get in the way of advising people
properly.

jps

I have good luck with ordinary laundry bleach. For stubborn stains, you can use
a cleaning powder like ajax, but don't rub it in as it is too abrasive. Just keep the
affected area moist, while the bleach does it's work. You can try different concentrations of the
bleach until you find one that works. You have to leave it on for a while to let the bleach do it's
job. Another stronger product is 'Zud', which is
also a cleanser type product.

Sherwin D.

Mike Schumann wrote:

Over the winter, I stored my sailboat in a shed at our lake. Unfortunately,
the mice took over making it their home.

I have cleaned the boat the best that I can using detergent, but there are
still a lot of areas where the fiberglass is stained.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to eliminate these stains?

Thanks,
--
Mike Schumann

On Sun, 8 May 2005 21:04:40 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry.Krause" wrote in message
...
Capt. Neal® wrote:

"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
ink.net...

Over the winter, I stored my sailboat in a shed at our lake.
Unfortunately, the mice took over making it their home.

I have cleaned the boat the best that I can using detergent, but there
are still a lot of areas where the fiberglass is stained.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to eliminate these
stains?

Thanks,
--
Mike Schumann


Mice have fleas. Fleas **** dried blood. In other words - iron i.e. rust
stains.

Your supermarket should have a product called "Wink" in a little brown
bottle. It's great for rust stains. Follow the instructions.

Don't listen to Krause - he's an idiot.

CN


I suspect that I would score 40 points higher than you on any standardized
IQ test, Kneel. You're far closer to "idiot" than I'll ever be.


Oxalic Acid is a prime stain removal ingredient, including rust stains, in
many boat clean-up products.

It's in Bar Keepers Friend, too...which is what I was going to suggest.

Yes it is. Although I'm not much of a Bar Keepers Friend fan - never
seems to work right for me. Other's swear by it.

However, I have had very good success with good old PLAIN Soft Scrub.
I don't know why, but does a good job on fiberglass stains.

Later,

Tom

On Mon, 09 May 2005 07:25:26 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 8 May 2005 21:04:40 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry.Krause" wrote in message
...

Capt. Neal® wrote:

"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
arthlink.net...


Over the winter, I stored my sailboat in a shed at our lake.
Unfortunately, the mice took over making it their home.

I have cleaned the boat the best that I can using detergent, but there
are still a lot of areas where the fiberglass is stained.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to eliminate these
stains?

Thanks,
--
Mike Schumann


Mice have fleas. Fleas **** dried blood. In other words - iron i.e. rust
stains.

Your supermarket should have a product called "Wink" in a little brown
bottle. It's great for rust stains. Follow the instructions.

Don't listen to Krause - he's an idiot.

CN


I suspect that I would score 40 points higher than you on any standardized
IQ test, Kneel. You're far closer to "idiot" than I'll ever be.


Oxalic Acid is a prime stain removal ingredient, including rust stains, in
many boat clean-up products.

It's in Bar Keepers Friend, too...which is what I was going to suggest.


Yes it is. Although I'm not much of a Bar Keepers Friend fan - never
seems to work right for me. Other's swear by it.

However, I have had very good success with good old PLAIN Soft Scrub.
I don't know why, but does a good job on fiberglass stains.

SoftScrub and a Dobie usually does it for me.

Soft Scrub, a brush and terry cloth are my preferred choice of stain
removal tools. :)

Later,

Tom

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 09 May 2005 07:25:26 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 8 May 2005 21:04:40 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry.Krause" wrote in message
...

Capt. Neal® wrote:

"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
. earthlink.net...


Over the winter, I stored my sailboat in a shed at our lake.
Unfortunately, the mice took over making it their home.

I have cleaned the boat the best that I can using detergent, but
there
are still a lot of areas where the fiberglass is stained.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to eliminate these
stains?

Thanks,
--
Mike Schumann


Mice have fleas. Fleas **** dried blood. In other words - iron i.e.
rust
stains.

Your supermarket should have a product called "Wink" in a little brown
bottle. It's great for rust stains. Follow the instructions.

Don't listen to Krause - he's an idiot.

CN


I suspect that I would score 40 points higher than you on any
standardized
IQ test, Kneel. You're far closer to "idiot" than I'll ever be.


Oxalic Acid is a prime stain removal ingredient, including rust stains,
in
many boat clean-up products.

It's in Bar Keepers Friend, too...which is what I was going to suggest.


Yes it is. Although I'm not much of a Bar Keepers Friend fan - never
seems to work right for me. Other's swear by it.

However, I have had very good success with good old PLAIN Soft Scrub.
I don't know why, but does a good job on fiberglass stains.

SoftScrub and a Dobie usually does it for me.

Soft Scrub, a brush and terry cloth are my preferred choice of stain
removal tools. :)


I like Soft Scrub with bleach on most stains (especially dried fish blood),
but Bar Keeper's Friend works better on rust stains.

On Mon, 09 May 2005 13:10:49 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 09 May 2005 07:25:26 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 8 May 2005 21:04:40 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry.Krause" wrote in message
...

Capt. Neal® wrote:

"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
.earthlink.net...


Over the winter, I stored my sailboat in a shed at our lake.
Unfortunately, the mice took over making it their home.

I have cleaned the boat the best that I can using detergent, but
there
are still a lot of areas where the fiberglass is stained.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to eliminate these
stains?

Thanks,
--
Mike Schumann


Mice have fleas. Fleas **** dried blood. In other words - iron i.e.
rust
stains.

Your supermarket should have a product called "Wink" in a little brown
bottle. It's great for rust stains. Follow the instructions.

Don't listen to Krause - he's an idiot.

CN


I suspect that I would score 40 points higher than you on any
standardized
IQ test, Kneel. You're far closer to "idiot" than I'll ever be.


Oxalic Acid is a prime stain removal ingredient, including rust stains,
in
many boat clean-up products.

It's in Bar Keepers Friend, too...which is what I was going to suggest.


Yes it is. Although I'm not much of a Bar Keepers Friend fan - never
seems to work right for me. Other's swear by it.

However, I have had very good success with good old PLAIN Soft Scrub.
I don't know why, but does a good job on fiberglass stains.

SoftScrub and a Dobie usually does it for me.

Soft Scrub, a brush and terry cloth are my preferred choice of stain
removal tools. :)


I like Soft Scrub with bleach on most stains (especially dried fish blood),
but Bar Keeper's Friend works better on rust stains.

I don't get a lot of rust stains on my boats. Maybe if I did, it
would work better. :)

Later,

Tom

Mike Schumann wrote:
Over the winter, I stored my sailboat in a shed at our lake. Unfortunately,
the mice took over making it their home.

I have cleaned the boat the best that I can using detergent, but there are
still a lot of areas where the fiberglass is stained.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to eliminate these stains?

Thanks,



I used acetone to remove a few stubborn stains. Apply sparingly and
rinse right away with clean water.

On Mon, 09 May 2005 10:37:49 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 09 May 2005 13:10:49 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 09 May 2005 07:25:26 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Sun, 8 May 2005 21:04:40 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:



"Harry.Krause" wrote in message
...


Capt. Neal® wrote:


"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
tl.earthlink.net...



Over the winter, I stored my sailboat in a shed at our lake.
Unfortunately, the mice took over making it their home.

I have cleaned the boat the best that I can using detergent, but
there
are still a lot of areas where the fiberglass is stained.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to eliminate these
stains?

Thanks,
--
Mike Schumann


Mice have fleas. Fleas **** dried blood. In other words - iron i.e.
rust
stains.

Your supermarket should have a product called "Wink" in a little brown
bottle. It's great for rust stains. Follow the instructions.

Don't listen to Krause - he's an idiot.

CN


I suspect that I would score 40 points higher than you on any
standardized
IQ test, Kneel. You're far closer to "idiot" than I'll ever be.


Oxalic Acid is a prime stain removal ingredient, including rust stains,
in
many boat clean-up products.

It's in Bar Keepers Friend, too...which is what I was going to suggest.


Yes it is. Although I'm not much of a Bar Keepers Friend fan - never
seems to work right for me. Other's swear by it.

However, I have had very good success with good old PLAIN Soft Scrub.
I don't know why, but does a good job on fiberglass stains.

SoftScrub and a Dobie usually does it for me.

Soft Scrub, a brush and terry cloth are my preferred choice of stain
removal tools. :)


I like Soft Scrub with bleach on most stains (especially dried fish blood),
but Bar Keeper's Friend works better on rust stains.


I don't get a lot of rust stains on my boats. Maybe if I did, it
would work better. :)

We know where your rust is, fella!

Yep - between my ears.

Later,

Tom

On Mon, 09 May 2005 00:33:22 GMT, "Mike Schumann"
wrote:

Over the winter, I stored my sailboat in a shed at our lake. Unfortunately,
the mice took over making it their home.

Thats why I dont let mice on any of my boats.

Did I tell you I have a long drive way? BTW, where I live, if you have
a long driveway, you have money.