Requires less scope ...

only in lite winds and no waves.

You make this **** up, don't you?

it is part of the US Mil Spec.

For a good reason.

Don't have to, dipsquat .... been there done that.

otn

no, you have not.

a.) they do, and

b.) it is not germaine to the discussion of safe anchoring of recreational
sailboats.

anchoring on all chain is done by weak old men unable to lift a 35# anchor.

Once again .... NO THEY DON'T.

Now, so you understand .... IF it's a steam ship, after anchoring, they
will "spin" the turbines for a while and then put them on the "jacking"
gear to cool them, unless it's to be a short anchoring (in which case
they'll "spin" them to keep them warm). Naturally the boilers remain on
line since they are used for Hotel services.
Diesel electric: Depending on the setup, if the generators for the
engine are exclusive to the main propulsion, they will be secured.(same
with GT)
Straight GT: Shut down.
Direct drive diesel: (majority of larger ships) SHUT DOWN, PERIOD.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
But you haven't seemed to grasp the fact that navy
ships and commercial ships do not "leave their engines running" while in
port.


but they do while "at anchor". check it out.

With proper technique, the nylon will haul
without any problems at all.


not according to those clowns who endanger human lives by using all chain
rodes.

endangering the lives of other people because one is too lazy to lift a 35#
anchor is in fact criminal behavior.

thrity years ago people *claimed* that driving drunk was a god given right. To
this day people claim that driving a boat drunk is a god given right.

Each is a criminal act.

As is endangering the lives of other people by knowingly anchoring in fashion
that causes a boat to come loose when the winds and waves pick up.
using all chain on a sailboat is as criminal as driving a car drunk.

A classic Jaxism. Thanks! We need more humor in this newsgroup.

DSK

The situation you describe will not happen if the anchor and rode are
suitable
for conditions, if there is adequate scope for depth and conditions, and so
forth.


you somehow have managed to make the claim above that you are too stupid to
understand the discussion. All chain WILL be in adequate for ALL "normal"
scope conditions when the wind and waves pick up. ALL.

yo-yo, nobody was talking about 40 to 1 scopes. knock it off.

There is no possible linkage between using chain and ripping deck
chocks loose.

bull****. At least those who build offshore oil rigs knows it is bull****.

The weight of the chain (and ensuing swag) acts as a
shock absorber.

bull****. ever hear the term "bar tight"?

The weight of the chain (and ensuing swag) acts as a
shock absorber.

Oh? Ever have a boat with less windage that you AND two (count 'em, TWO) major
size CQRS (*each* twice the size of your anchor) and "normal" scope of all
chain pull down on you in 20 knots of wind gusting to 25 knots, when you were
on a proper rode?

I have.

so ... why did you bring it up? the discussion was about the unethical
behavior of weak and/or lazy men unwilling to lift an anchor.


Some chain is stronger than some...... uh, (sic) rope....

logging chain IS stronger than window sash cord, but that is not relevant to
this discussion.

I merely pointed out the meaninglessness of your comment. Most
anchors are the weak link in the rode. My 23 foot boat uses a 13#
anchor rated at 1800#.... much lower than either chain or line.

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