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Ree-Yees
 
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Default I think the starter is gone now!

I guess I dont have much luck on the water :-)

When I crank it it will try a couple times to turn over and some smoke comes
out of the starter. Tried jumping it from a running car to make sure it had
plenty of juice, but did the same thing.

I was floating out on the lake when this happened and had to have the lake
patrol pull me in for $50!

Anyways, anyone know what kind of starter I should be asking for when I call
around tomorrow? My motor is a 1987 Mercruiser inboard/outboad motor.

I'll try calling some boat shops I guess to find one.
Thanks,
--C



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Gordon
 
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Default I think the starter is gone now!

Pull the old one and have rebuilt. Much cheaper and it has to come out
anyway.
Gordon
"Ree-Yees" wrote in message
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I guess I dont have much luck on the water :-)

When I crank it it will try a couple times to turn over and some smoke

comes
out of the starter. Tried jumping it from a running car to make sure it

had
plenty of juice, but did the same thing.

I was floating out on the lake when this happened and had to have the lake
patrol pull me in for $50!

Anyways, anyone know what kind of starter I should be asking for when I

call
around tomorrow? My motor is a 1987 Mercruiser inboard/outboad motor.

I'll try calling some boat shops I guess to find one.
Thanks,
--C






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Ree-Yees
 
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Default I think the starter is gone now!

Didnt know that could be done! Will definitly try to go that route. I
wonder how much a boat mechanic will charge to tell me for sure if its the
starter or not.

--C

"Gordon" wrote in message
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Pull the old one and have rebuilt. Much cheaper and it has to come out
anyway.
Gordon
"Ree-Yees" wrote in message
...
I guess I dont have much luck on the water :-)

When I crank it it will try a couple times to turn over and some smoke

comes
out of the starter. Tried jumping it from a running car to make sure it

had
plenty of juice, but did the same thing.

I was floating out on the lake when this happened and had to have the

lake
patrol pull me in for $50!

Anyways, anyone know what kind of starter I should be asking for when I

call
around tomorrow? My motor is a 1987 Mercruiser inboard/outboad motor.

I'll try calling some boat shops I guess to find one.
Thanks,
--C









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Chad Hansen
 
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Default I think the starter is gone now!

--C
If you let the smoke out of it there is a really good chance its damaged.I
would agree with rebuilding it.Make sure there is nothing dragging it
down.Ground it well.
Chad
"Ree-Yees" wrote in message
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Didnt know that could be done! Will definitly try to go that route. I
wonder how much a boat mechanic will charge to tell me for sure if its the
starter or not.

--C

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Pull the old one and have rebuilt. Much cheaper and it has to come out
anyway.
Gordon
"Ree-Yees" wrote in message
...
I guess I dont have much luck on the water :-)

When I crank it it will try a couple times to turn over and some smoke

comes
out of the starter. Tried jumping it from a running car to make sure

it
had
plenty of juice, but did the same thing.

I was floating out on the lake when this happened and had to have the

lake
patrol pull me in for $50!

Anyways, anyone know what kind of starter I should be asking for when

I
call
around tomorrow? My motor is a 1987 Mercruiser inboard/outboad motor.

I'll try calling some boat shops I guess to find one.
Thanks,
--C











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Gary Warner
 
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Default I think the starter is gone now!


"Ree-Yees" wrote:


All this has already been but...

If there was smoke coming from the starter it
is almost certainly damaged.

Usual testing of a starter is they remove it and
then directly connect a known good battery
to it. Since there is no load on it, it should
"pop up" and spin freely.

Sometimes a starter has a "bad spot". This
means that it works sometimes and not
other times. This is why rapping a starter
with a hammer will sometimes/often get it
to start. You still need to replace the starter,
but the hammer trick may get you out of
a bind. Good for vehicles and boats.

Rebuilt is often the way to go. Cheaper and
usually just as good. We had ours rebuilt. And
if it's a common model they might already
have one rebuilt and you just swap yours for
that one.

Anyone know if renuilders usually offer any length
of warrantee...or is it usually "as is" ??

I'm not sure what our vendor's policy is/was.

Good Luck.




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Ree-Yees
 
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Default I think the starter is gone now!

I tried putting a whole new battery cable on just to amke sure. Its so bad
now that most of the time it just clicks and doesnt even try to turn over.

Ive ordered a new one from a local marine shop for $200. I'll be having my
mechanic friend put it on but if for some reason he was unsuccessfull the
marine shop charges $120 for the installation :-(

--C

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
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"Ree-Yees" wrote:


All this has already been but...

If there was smoke coming from the starter it
is almost certainly damaged.

Usual testing of a starter is they remove it and
then directly connect a known good battery
to it. Since there is no load on it, it should
"pop up" and spin freely.

Sometimes a starter has a "bad spot". This
means that it works sometimes and not
other times. This is why rapping a starter
with a hammer will sometimes/often get it
to start. You still need to replace the starter,
but the hammer trick may get you out of
a bind. Good for vehicles and boats.

Rebuilt is often the way to go. Cheaper and
usually just as good. We had ours rebuilt. And
if it's a common model they might already
have one rebuilt and you just swap yours for
that one.

Anyone know if renuilders usually offer any length
of warrantee...or is it usually "as is" ??

I'm not sure what our vendor's policy is/was.

Good Luck.





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Camilo
 
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Default I think the starter is gone now!

"Ree-Yees" wrote in message
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I guess I dont have much luck on the water :-)

When I crank it it will try a couple times to turn over and some smoke

comes
out of the starter. Tried jumping it from a running car to make sure it

had
plenty of juice, but did the same thing.

I was floating out on the lake when this happened and had to have the lake
patrol pull me in for $50!

Anyways, anyone know what kind of starter I should be asking for when I

call
around tomorrow? My motor is a 1987 Mercruiser inboard/outboad motor.

I'll try calling some boat shops I guess to find one.
Thanks,


You already got the advice on getting your starter rebuilt.

What kind of engine is it? If it's an I/O, it is sometimes absolutely the
best route to get your current starter rebuilt vs. buying a new or rebuilt
one - there's some shimming issues (I was told).

If it's an outboard - in case you didn't know it, you can pull start them
(generally). I have done it many times in the past with quite large
engines. I actually have a starter cord in my box of "stuff" for my V6
outboard, never used it yet! My friend and I pull started his Merc 175
sport jet a few years back. Had to do this the entire weekend until he had
a chance to fix it.

It's not fun, but if need be, it can be a real life saver.

Cam


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"Ree-Yees" wrote


around tomorrow? My motor is a 1987 Mercruiser inboard/outboad motor.

You already got the advice on getting your starter rebuilt.


What kind of engine is it? If it's an I/O, it is sometimes absolutely the
best route to get your current starter rebuilt vs. buying a new or rebuilt
one - there's some shimming issues (I was told).


Oops - didn't notice that you'd already said it was a mercruiser i/o. My
comment about the shims applies installing starters on GM 5.0 / 5.7 l (305/
350 ci) blocks, whether they be automobile or marinized. (so I've been
told - I'm not a mechanic, but have received advice from a couple on this
issue) I was told, once you get a starter fitted to one of these blocks,
keep it. I ended up with two starters on my old GM 5.7 boat engine - just
by chance, but it ended up being a good thing a couple of years later when
my starter went out and I could save some time by re-installing the old (and
rebuilt one) easily because it had already been shimmed.

My comment about pull starting I take back!! Hey good luck getting back on
the water.

Also please post a follow up to your water drainage issue.


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Default I think the starter is gone now!

I posted a follup up to my water leaking problem for you.

Yesterday evening I removed the starter from the boat. I hooked it up to
the battery and it splun freely. I took it down to the autoparts store
where they can do a load test. The first run with it it made some terrible
grinding noises. The next time all it got was click, click, click. Then we
beat it with a hammer and it ran fine with the load but was pulling 5 times
of the normal amount of battery power. So the starter is definitly busted.

I have a new one on the way that I should be able to pick up today for $200.
I couldnt find a mechanic around me that could rebuild them. They all said
they woudl have to send it off for a week. So I guess I'll be sporting a
new one in my boat if it arrives today.

Hopefully that will put me back in the water this evening.

--C

"Camilo" wrote in message
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"Camilo" wrote in message
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"Ree-Yees" wrote


around tomorrow? My motor is a 1987 Mercruiser inboard/outboad motor.

You already got the advice on getting your starter rebuilt.


What kind of engine is it? If it's an I/O, it is sometimes absolutely

the
best route to get your current starter rebuilt vs. buying a new or

rebuilt
one - there's some shimming issues (I was told).


Oops - didn't notice that you'd already said it was a mercruiser i/o. My
comment about the shims applies installing starters on GM 5.0 / 5.7 l

(305/
350 ci) blocks, whether they be automobile or marinized. (so I've been
told - I'm not a mechanic, but have received advice from a couple on this
issue) I was told, once you get a starter fitted to one of these blocks,
keep it. I ended up with two starters on my old GM 5.7 boat engine - just
by chance, but it ended up being a good thing a couple of years later when
my starter went out and I could save some time by re-installing the old

(and
rebuilt one) easily because it had already been shimmed.

My comment about pull starting I take back!! Hey good luck getting back

on
the water.

Also please post a follow up to your water drainage issue.





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Default I think the starter is gone now!

I posted a follup up to my water leaking problem for you.

Yesterday evening I removed the starter from the boat. I hooked it up to
the battery and it splun freely. I took it down to the autoparts store
where they can do a load test. The first run with it it made some terrible
grinding noises. The next time all it got was click, click, click. Then we
beat it with a hammer and it ran fine with the load but was pulling 5 times
of the normal amount of battery power. So the starter is definitly busted.

I have a new one on the way that I should be able to pick up today for $200.
I couldnt find a mechanic around me that could rebuild them. They all said
they woudl have to send it off for a week. So I guess I'll be sporting a
new one in my boat if it arrives today.

Hopefully that will put me back in the water this evening.

--C

"Camilo" wrote in message
...

"Camilo" wrote in message
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"Ree-Yees" wrote


around tomorrow? My motor is a 1987 Mercruiser inboard/outboad motor.

You already got the advice on getting your starter rebuilt.


What kind of engine is it? If it's an I/O, it is sometimes absolutely

the
best route to get your current starter rebuilt vs. buying a new or

rebuilt
one - there's some shimming issues (I was told).


Oops - didn't notice that you'd already said it was a mercruiser i/o. My
comment about the shims applies installing starters on GM 5.0 / 5.7 l

(305/
350 ci) blocks, whether they be automobile or marinized. (so I've been
told - I'm not a mechanic, but have received advice from a couple on this
issue) I was told, once you get a starter fitted to one of these blocks,
keep it. I ended up with two starters on my old GM 5.7 boat engine - just
by chance, but it ended up being a good thing a couple of years later when
my starter went out and I could save some time by re-installing the old

(and
rebuilt one) easily because it had already been shimmed.

My comment about pull starting I take back!! Hey good luck getting back

on
the water.

Also please post a follow up to your water drainage issue.





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