What do you think about Harry stating that all democrats should vote the
democratic ticket no matter who was on the ballot?


"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Jack Goff" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote:

The $10 billion isn't going to us...and I never implied it was. The
oil,
however, very likely is going to us...which could prove very valuable
if
the
religious fundamentalists are successful in overthrowing the Saudi
Royals.


Forget it... these liberal hate mongers can't see past the nose on their
respective faces. They can only do one thing... spread hate about
anything
that's not deemed "good" by the liberal media and politicians they've
sold
their soul to.

Big picture? That idea is lost on these limited thinkers.

Jack

Hmm, let's see, you call liberals "limited thinkers", yet you righties
blindly follow a leader who has lied to you time and time again, just
because he's a repbulican. I call that pretty damned narrow minded.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 21:55:29 -0400, NOYB wrote:


Or we can see to it that governments in the region put their own
economic
health, and the well-being of their people ahead of some misguided
radical
Islamic fundamentalist agenda where the sole purpose is converting the
World to Islam.

To quote Michael Douglass's character in Wall Street: "Greed is Good".
A
government that chooses to sell its oil to America will have much-needed
financial wealth. If that government is "of the people and for the
people" (rather than a tyrant or royal family hording all of the
wealth),
oil sales to America are a good thing for all parties involved.

Well, that's the plan in Iraq. Hopefully, this time it will work.

Do you then agree that bin Laden's goal is to disrupt the flow of oil to the
West and thuse destroy us economically?

Excuse
me for being a little jaded, but the history of the middle east if full of
budding democracies that were overthrown in the interest of oil. Our CIA
had a hand in several.

Too much of the wealth went to a tyrant or the ruling monarchy. Perhaps
they need unions and some Democratic senators to see that things are divided
a little more fairly. Perhaps we can send Harry and the other liberal
Democrats over there and make sure the working man gets his fair share.;-)

"basskisser" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 15:51:40 +0000, NOYB wrote:

The oil,
however, very likely is going to us...which could prove very
valuable if
the religious fundamentalists are successful in overthrowing the
Saudi
Royals.

Therein lies the problem. Most of the world's remaining oil supplies
lie
in unstable regions. We can try to continue to dominate these regions
militarily for the next forty to sixty years that oil remains viable,

Or we can see to it that governments in the region put their own
economic
health, and the well-being of their people ahead of some misguided
radical
Islamic fundamentalist agenda where the sole purpose is converting the
World
to Islam.

To quote Michael Douglass's character in Wall Street:
"Greed is Good". A government that chooses to sell its oil to America
will
have much-needed financial wealth. If that government is "of the people
and
for the people" (rather than a tyrant or royal family hording all of the
wealth), oil sales to America are a good thing for all parties involved.

There you go...when it doesn't make REAL sense, use Hollywood!!

If I quoted Adam Smith, you'd have to go to google just to figure out who I
was taking about. I figured you'd have heard of the movie "Wall Street".

"John Smith" wrote in message news:L%Gvc.12204$sI.4206@attbi_s52...
What do you think about Harry stating that all democrats should vote the
democratic ticket no matter who was on the ballot?

I'd disagree. Unlike you, and some other republicans here, I don't
blindly follow ANY party. I've said that before. I would, however, in
this particular instance, put a caveat with that. Bush is dangerous.
He is dangerous to the well being of this country, he is dangerous
because of his foreign policy, he is dangerous for the environment,
and mostly (in my eyes) he is dangerous because he is all for taking
away our indiviual freedoms as granted to us by the consitution of the
United States. All of that being said, he needs to go, along with his
other crooked cabinet.

basskisser wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message news:L%Gvc.12204$sI.4206@attbi_s52...

What do you think about Harry stating that all democrats should vote the
democratic ticket no matter who was on the ballot?


I'd disagree. Unlike you, and some other republicans here, I don't
blindly follow ANY party. I've said that before. I would, however, in
this particular instance, put a caveat with that. Bush is dangerous.
He is dangerous to the well being of this country, he is dangerous
because of his foreign policy, he is dangerous for the environment,
and mostly (in my eyes) he is dangerous because he is all for taking
away our indiviual freedoms as granted to us by the consitution of the
United States. All of that being said, he needs to go, along with his
other crooked cabinet.


The last Republican presidential nominee I might have considered voting
for was Gerry Ford. I like Gerry Ford. I also like Bob Dole, and wish he
had stayed in the US Senate. I have great respect for John McCain, and
were he to loosen up on a couple of issues dear to me, I'd consider
voting for him, depending, of course, who was on the Democratic ticket.

The current GOP POTUS ought to be run out of town on a rail when his
term is over. History will not be kind to George W. Bush. He may well be
remembered as the most devisive and destructive POTUS in our nation's
history, the one who destroyed the nation's good will around the world.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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The last Republican presidential nominee I might have considered voting
for was Gerry Ford. I like Gerry Ford. I also like Bob Dole, and wish he
had stayed in the US Senate. I have great respect for John McCain, and
were he to loosen up on a couple of issues dear to me, I'd consider
voting for him, depending, of course, who was on the Democratic ticket.

The current GOP POTUS ought to be run out of town on a rail when his
term is over. History will not be kind to George W. Bush. He may well be
remembered as the most devisive and destructive POTUS in our nation's
history, the one who destroyed the nation's good will around the world.

Didn't you say that anyone who considers himself a democrat should vote for
the democratic ticket no matter who is on the ballot?

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John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:01:29 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Do you then agree that bin Laden's goal is to disrupt the flow of oil to
the West and thuse destroy us economically?

I have no idea what bin Laden's goals are. It is relatively well
documented that his original goals were to get American forces out of
Saudi Arabia. This has been achieved. The present Saudi attacks raise
several questions for me. It could be, as you say, to disrupt the flow of
oil, or to scare away any "infidels" remaining in Islam's Holy Land. Or,
it may not have anything to do with us, but more with existing differences
with the Saudi regime. Another thing, it might not have anything to do
with bin Laden. It is my understanding that al Qaeda terror cells are set
up to work autonomously. bin Laden might not be controlling the present
attacks. Hell, bin Laden might be in Diego Garcia awaiting the news of
his capture sometime in October. ;-)