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It is impossible for anybody to take a pie that is infinitely large.
No matter how much any entity takes, the economy can expand for others.

But it isn't infinite. There is an exact amount of federal debt, of
federal income, of federal spending. All of this contributes to the
finite size of the pie.


Why is the pie limited by the size of Federal Government?

Learn to read. I didn't say the pie is limited by the size of the
Federal Government. I did, however say that the pie is finite in size
because the national debt, income and spending are finite. IF that is
what you are eluding to, then the answer is because that IS the pie.

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I also do not see a direct relationship between the size of the economy
and the federal budget. Of course liberals think the federal budget IS
tthe economy.

You don't? Every single time you purchase something, every single time
you get income, every time you sell something there's these entities
called taxes.

*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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We all agree that Bush seems to have some sort of language
dyslexia,
however, the obvious concepts make sense.
For example, "Make the pie bigger" clearly does not make sense to
many
liberals who endlessly argue about how to make the pie slices ever
so
equal but unfortunately ever smaller until most people would starve
while some of us argue that the relative sizes dont matter at all,
What
matters is that the pie is big enough that everybody has enough
even
though some people manage to get more than others. The idea that
teh
amount of "wealth" is not fixed comes as a surprise to liberals who
seem to really think that wealth somehow is fixed by how much
material
we mine, grow or pump out of the ground. They do not understand
that
much of the increase in wealth in the last few years has no
relation
to
physical things but in organization of information. It does not
matter
that Warren Buffet has so much more than a poor person, what
matters
is
that ALL of our poor have enough to do well and are in fact rich
compared to a generation ago. Realization that the size of the pie
can
be made as large as we need should expand the imaginations of even
liberals.

If you think that there is simply enough pie for everyone, while the
corporations in bed with BushCo simply dip there hands in and take
what
they want, you're delusioned. If someone greedy enough takes the
whole
pie, while BushCo defends it, where is there any left for anybody
else?? And if you think that our poorest of poor have enough to do
well, you are again, delusional.


Could you be more specific Kevin and offer some *facts* instead of
generalities and assumptions?

Hey, Jim, I see that idiot Fritz still has his nose stuck up your ass,
or vice versa. Every single thread you post to, Fritz is right there!!
Do you two ever uncouple?


I am not Jim.

Really, you're not Jim Hertvik, of Avon Lake Ohio??


Makes about as much sense as you saying you are not Kevin Noble of
Snellville, GA, eh? ;-)

I see you still aren't bright enough to get it, huh? It must be hell to
go through life thinking you're quite brilliant, and be dead ass wrong
so much!!

*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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wrote:
We all agree that Bush seems to have some sort of language
dyslexia,
however, the obvious concepts make sense.
For example, "Make the pie bigger" clearly does not make sense to
many
liberals who endlessly argue about how to make the pie slices ever
so
equal but unfortunately ever smaller until most people would starve
while some of us argue that the relative sizes dont matter at all,
What
matters is that the pie is big enough that everybody has enough
even
though some people manage to get more than others. The idea that
teh
amount of "wealth" is not fixed comes as a surprise to liberals who
seem to really think that wealth somehow is fixed by how much
material
we mine, grow or pump out of the ground. They do not understand
that
much of the increase in wealth in the last few years has no
relation
to
physical things but in organization of information. It does not
matter
that Warren Buffet has so much more than a poor person, what
matters
is
that ALL of our poor have enough to do well and are in fact rich
compared to a generation ago. Realization that the size of the pie
can
be made as large as we need should expand the imaginations of even
liberals.

If you think that there is simply enough pie for everyone, while the
corporations in bed with BushCo simply dip there hands in and take
what
they want, you're delusioned. If someone greedy enough takes the
whole
pie, while BushCo defends it, where is there any left for anybody
else?? And if you think that our poorest of poor have enough to do
well, you are again, delusional.


Could you be more specific Kevin and offer some *facts* instead of
generalities and assumptions?

Hey, Jim, I see that idiot Fritz still has his nose stuck up your ass,
or vice versa. Every single thread you post to, Fritz is right there!!
Do you two ever uncouple?


I am not Jim.

Really, you're not Jim Hertvik, of Avon Lake Ohio??


Makes about as much sense as you saying you are not Kevin Noble of
Snellville, GA, eh? ;-)

Answer the question, please, then we'll continue.

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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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wrote:
We all agree that Bush seems to have some sort of language
dyslexia,
however, the obvious concepts make sense.
For example, "Make the pie bigger" clearly does not make sense
to
many
liberals who endlessly argue about how to make the pie slices
ever
so
equal but unfortunately ever smaller until most people would
starve
while some of us argue that the relative sizes dont matter at
all,
What
matters is that the pie is big enough that everybody has enough
even
though some people manage to get more than others. The idea
that
teh
amount of "wealth" is not fixed comes as a surprise to liberals
who
seem to really think that wealth somehow is fixed by how much
material
we mine, grow or pump out of the ground. They do not understand
that
much of the increase in wealth in the last few years has no
relation
to
physical things but in organization of information. It does not
matter
that Warren Buffet has so much more than a poor person, what
matters
is
that ALL of our poor have enough to do well and are in fact rich
compared to a generation ago. Realization that the size of the
pie
can
be made as large as we need should expand the imaginations of
even
liberals.

If you think that there is simply enough pie for everyone, while
the
corporations in bed with BushCo simply dip there hands in and
take
what
they want, you're delusioned. If someone greedy enough takes the
whole
pie, while BushCo defends it, where is there any left for anybody
else?? And if you think that our poorest of poor have enough to
do
well, you are again, delusional.


Could you be more specific Kevin and offer some *facts* instead of
generalities and assumptions?

Hey, Jim, I see that idiot Fritz still has his nose stuck up your
ass,
or vice versa. Every single thread you post to, Fritz is right
there!!
Do you two ever uncouple?


I am not Jim.

Really, you're not Jim Hertvik, of Avon Lake Ohio??


Makes about as much sense as you saying you are not Kevin Noble of
Snellville, GA, eh? ;-)

I see you still aren't bright enough to get it, huh? It must be hell to
go through life thinking you're quite brilliant, and be dead ass wrong
so much!!


Wow, 5 posts from you this morning Kevin, all containing insults and
personal attacks.

You are right on track. ;-)

*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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wrote:
We all agree that Bush seems to have some sort of language
dyslexia,
however, the obvious concepts make sense.
For example, "Make the pie bigger" clearly does not make sense
to
many
liberals who endlessly argue about how to make the pie slices
ever
so
equal but unfortunately ever smaller until most people would
starve
while some of us argue that the relative sizes dont matter at
all,
What
matters is that the pie is big enough that everybody has enough
even
though some people manage to get more than others. The idea
that
teh
amount of "wealth" is not fixed comes as a surprise to liberals
who
seem to really think that wealth somehow is fixed by how much
material
we mine, grow or pump out of the ground. They do not understand
that
much of the increase in wealth in the last few years has no
relation
to
physical things but in organization of information. It does not
matter
that Warren Buffet has so much more than a poor person, what
matters
is
that ALL of our poor have enough to do well and are in fact rich
compared to a generation ago. Realization that the size of the
pie
can
be made as large as we need should expand the imaginations of
even
liberals.

If you think that there is simply enough pie for everyone, while
the
corporations in bed with BushCo simply dip there hands in and
take
what
they want, you're delusioned. If someone greedy enough takes the
whole
pie, while BushCo defends it, where is there any left for anybody
else?? And if you think that our poorest of poor have enough to
do
well, you are again, delusional.


Could you be more specific Kevin and offer some *facts* instead of
generalities and assumptions?

Hey, Jim, I see that idiot Fritz still has his nose stuck up your
ass,
or vice versa. Every single thread you post to, Fritz is right
there!!
Do you two ever uncouple?


I am not Jim.

Really, you're not Jim Hertvik, of Avon Lake Ohio??


Makes about as much sense as you saying you are not Kevin Noble of
Snellville, GA, eh? ;-)

I see you still aren't bright enough to get it, huh? It must be hell to
go through life thinking you're quite brilliant, and be dead ass wrong
so much!!


Wow, 5 posts from you this morning Kevin, all containing insults and
personal attacks.

You are right on track. ;-)

As are you. What is your lie of the day going to be Jim? Will it be
that you're not Jim Hertvik, or that you don't post insults, or that
you don't post derogatory comments, or that you don't call people
petty, childish names, or that you're not going to post OT anymore, or
that you're not going to lie about others here?

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*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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wrote:
We all agree that Bush seems to have some sort of language
dyslexia,
however, the obvious concepts make sense.
For example, "Make the pie bigger" clearly does not make
sense
to
many
liberals who endlessly argue about how to make the pie slices
ever
so
equal but unfortunately ever smaller until most people would
starve
while some of us argue that the relative sizes dont matter at
all,
What
matters is that the pie is big enough that everybody has
enough
even
though some people manage to get more than others. The idea
that
teh
amount of "wealth" is not fixed comes as a surprise to
liberals
who
seem to really think that wealth somehow is fixed by how much
material
we mine, grow or pump out of the ground. They do not
understand
that
much of the increase in wealth in the last few years has no
relation
to
physical things but in organization of information. It does
not
matter
that Warren Buffet has so much more than a poor person, what
matters
is
that ALL of our poor have enough to do well and are in fact
rich
compared to a generation ago. Realization that the size of
the
pie
can
be made as large as we need should expand the imaginations of
even
liberals.

If you think that there is simply enough pie for everyone,
while
the
corporations in bed with BushCo simply dip there hands in and
take
what
they want, you're delusioned. If someone greedy enough takes
the
whole
pie, while BushCo defends it, where is there any left for
anybody
else?? And if you think that our poorest of poor have enough
to
do
well, you are again, delusional.


Could you be more specific Kevin and offer some *facts* instead
of
generalities and assumptions?

Hey, Jim, I see that idiot Fritz still has his nose stuck up your
ass,
or vice versa. Every single thread you post to, Fritz is right
there!!
Do you two ever uncouple?


I am not Jim.

Really, you're not Jim Hertvik, of Avon Lake Ohio??


Makes about as much sense as you saying you are not Kevin Noble of
Snellville, GA, eh? ;-)

I see you still aren't bright enough to get it, huh? It must be hell to
go through life thinking you're quite brilliant, and be dead ass wrong
so much!!


Wow, 5 posts from you this morning Kevin, all containing insults and
personal attacks.

You are right on track. ;-)

As are you. What is your lie of the day going to be Jim? Will it be
that you're not Jim Hertvik, or that you don't post insults, or that
you don't post derogatory comments, or that you don't call people
petty, childish names, or that you're not going to post OT anymore, or
that you're not going to lie about others here?


I am not JimH. Stop calling me that.

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But it isn't infinite. There is an exact amount of federal debt, of
federal income, of federal spending. All of this contributes to the
finite size of the pie.

What a dumbass.

Sam,
You must be new to these parts. Stick around and atl_man will continue to
amaze you with his brilliance.


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But it isn't infinite. There is an exact amount of federal debt, of
federal income, of federal spending. All of this contributes to the
finite size of the pie.

What a dumbass.

"Samtheman" wrote in message
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But it isn't infinite. There is an exact amount of federal debt, of
federal income, of federal spending. All of this contributes to the
finite size of the pie.

What a dumbass.


That is why he still holds the title of "King of the NG idiots"