"bb" wrote in message
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On 28 Sep 2005 08:48:27 -0700, wrote:

A presumed majority of liberals doesn't want an "approved" liberal
philosophy dispensed by a radio network. Based on ratings, many
conservatives crave it.

Another well thought out post by the Chuckster, thanks.

A core set of policies and values is what brings a political movement or
party together initially and gives it strength. The amalgamation that is the
Democrat party is falling apart be cause the core policies and values does
not exist.

The core constituency that was the Democrat party has been pushed to the
edges and the various single issue factions have moved into the middle of
the party. The end result is that the Democrat party will become a
collection of extremist fringe groups.

Air America is the vocal tool of the extremist fringe groups within the
Democrat party.

A purchase requires a seller. Perhaps the angelic voices of dissent
you cite are just greedy businesspeople who sell out when CC offers
them big bucks for their stations.

Or perhaps, since they are businesses, they are subject to buy-outs
just like Chrysler, Disney, etc etc.


OlBlueEyes wrote:
I'm not sure why you mention Disney; it is an independent company.


Hello? Hello?

It is mentioned because it is a relevant example.

Anyway, Chrysler had to APPROVE its acquisition by Daimler-Benz. And even
so-called "hostile" takeovers are so named only because the buyer is
bypassing negotiations with the management of the company being bought -
the buyer still has to buy shares on the open market from the current
shareholders, and if enough refuse to sell, the takeover attempt fails.

Sure, but why does the attempt to buy shares fail? Because you don't
offer enough money. That was part of Chuck Gould's point, which you
obviously missed by a mile. A big pile of money can not only buy a very
loud voice, it can silence other voices.

I still don't think anybody's home. I'm hanging up on this dial tone.

DSK

Bert Robbins wrote:
"bb" wrote in message
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On 28 Sep 2005 08:48:27 -0700, wrote:

A presumed majority of liberals doesn't want an "approved" liberal
philosophy dispensed by a radio network. Based on ratings, many
conservatives crave it.

Another well thought out post by the Chuckster, thanks.

A core set of policies and values is what brings a political movement or
party together initially and gives it strength. The amalgamation that is the
Democrat party is falling apart be cause the core policies and values does
not exist.

The core constituency that was the Democrat party has been pushed to the
edges and the various single issue factions have moved into the middle of
the party. The end result is that the Democrat party will become a
collection of extremist fringe groups.

Air America is the vocal tool of the extremist fringe groups within the
Democrat party.

We almost agree on this. The core constituency of the old Democratic
party, (Zell Miller, et al) has been absorbed into the GOP. A lot of
the old-time Democrats would be more comfortable today in the GOP.

You are correct. Conforming to a common set of values builds a strong
organization. That's why liberals are taking a political beating in
most areas, we are often very poor conformists. :-)

Different people will place higher and lower values on participating in
a group vs. following dictates of individual conscience. Because the
only important verdict about who or what you are is that of the guy/gal
looking back from you in the mirror, whether one takes solace and
comfort in the "group" or hangs out on the "fringe" its perfectly right
and OK, either way.

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OlBlueEyes wrote:

chuckgould wrote: :

Nominee for today's "dumb as a post" post.

Most Libs never learned HOW to think. Not much use in today's world for
these ghetto trained "intellectuals." Little wonder this one migrated to
selling used cars, ripping off the public and government in tax fraud
schemes, and other assorted shyster "deals."

--
Skipper

You clearly have libs and the right wing interposed.

Ripping off the public and government and tax fraud are the exclusive
domain of America's public corporations.

If they didn't move money and jobs offshore, we wouldn't have to support
such a heavy burden in the social welfare system.

Moving money from the pockets of the former middle class into the
pockets of the investor class.

jps

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OlBlueEyes wrote:

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Any chance Clear Channel bought Sirius?


Nominee for today's "dumb as a post" post. In about 5 mouse clicks
you can find out that Sirius is an independent company (NASDAQ:
SIRI).

Hello? Hello??

He was asking a question, not making a statement. Is anybody home?

Yes, but he asked a question the answer to which is simple to find. Then
he used a supposition of the wrong answer to the question to fuel the
remainder of his post.

That's how you guys "spread" your message, by buying up and silencing
other voices. Must be some really obvious advantages to the
philosophy you espouse when silencing dissent is the first item on
the agenda.


A purchase requires a seller. Perhaps the angelic voices of dissent
you cite are just greedy businesspeople who sell out when CC offers
them big bucks for their stations.

Or perhaps, since they are businesses, they are subject to buy-outs
just like Chrysler, Disney, etc etc.

I'm not sure why you mention Disney; it is an independent company.

Anyway, Chrysler had to APPROVE its acquisition by Daimler-Benz. And even
so-called "hostile" takeovers are so named only because the buyer is
bypassing negotiations with the management of the company being bought -
the buyer still has to buy shares on the open market from the current
shareholders, and if enough refuse to sell, the takeover attempt fails.

You're stuck on the idea of public companies. From an interview a couple of
years back with some broadcasting consultant: In smaller markets, many of
the companies bought up by Clear Channel are privately held. They're run by
employees, and the third generation of family just sits in the background
because they inherited it and aren't much interested in the business. They
wait for a buyer to come along, and there goes the radio station. Not much
different than reluctant owners of farms who inherited them from grandpa,
never touch dirt, rent the land to a farmer for his use, and sell out to a
developer when one comes along.

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Different people will place higher and lower values on participating in
a group vs. following dictates of individual conscience. Because the
only important verdict about who or what you are is that of the guy/gal
looking back from you in the mirror, whether one takes solace and
comfort in the "group" or hangs out on the "fringe" its perfectly right
and OK, either way.


It's easier to rationalize groupthink. You can mutate logic and say you're
"delegating" the political work.

Skipper wrote:
OlBlueEyes wrote:

chuckgould wrote: :

Nominee for today's "dumb as a post" post.

Most Libs never learned HOW to think. Not much use in today's world for
these ghetto trained "intellectuals." Little wonder this one migrated to
selling used cars, ripping off the public and government in tax fraud
schemes, and other assorted shyster "deals."

--
Skipper

Oh, look! It's supposedly "Skipper" again. But it isn't, as this
unwarranted personal attack was obviously penned by a deranged and
bitter a-hole. I have met Skipper, and it would be hard to describe him
in such terms.

So, psuedo-Skipper,
Care to enthrall us with your wind-in-the-teeth tale of surviving
hurricane force winds aboard your 22-foot Bayliner in the Sea of
Cortez?
The version where you claimed to have a bunch of gas cans strapped to
the gunwales, (after some spoil sport observed that your boat doesn't
have the fuel capacity to provide the range for the cruise you claimed
to make), would be nice. Some details of how you managed to pour the
fuel from those
portable cans into your fuel tank, bouncing around in the midst of the
Torito hurricane would be interesting as well. (It would probably be
considered polite to spin that yarn "downwind" from the audience).

Of course, you'd need to consult the "real" Skipper for that
information.
Why not check with him, if you can find him, and get back to us?

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:04:44 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


There are serious questions about how Air America was being funded and
their might be fraud indictments.

Are they the "ham sandwich" variety? Will the indictments stand the light
of day?

Chuck,
Who is this "you guys" you are referring to?

Do you honestly believe Sirius would cancel a popular show?

Do you often see black helicopters flying overhead?


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On 28 Sep 2005 07:47:50 -0700, "Mule" wrote:

Scandals and lack of funds, is it all over for this left wing radio in
a little over a year on the air? I just got the new channel guide from
Sirius Satellite Radio and they have been taken off the guide, not sure
if they are still on XM.

You are full of ****. They are alive and GROWING! I hope this news
ruins your week.

http://www.airamericaradio.com/

rusty


Another kool-aid drinker that believes "if it is on the internet, it must
be
true"


LMAO


Better or worse than a dittohead who believes "If Limbaugh said it, it
must be true." ?

Any chance Clear Channel bought Sirius? Clear Channel owns more radio
stations and broadcasting capability than any other group in the US,
(yet still whines that their message is ignored by the "mainstream"
media). In some small communities, *all* the radio stations are owned
by Clear Channel.
That's how you guys "spread" your message, by buying up and silencing
other voices. Must be some really obvious advantages to the philosophy
you espouse when silencing dissent is the first item on the agenda.
Maybe that's why they call it "Clear Channel," they plan is to clear
the channel of anything that might impede the advance of the agenda
promoted by Limbaugh and his ilk.

If Clear Channel didn't buy up Sirius, (no reason to suspect they did),
a very real possibility would be a campaign by certain susbscribers to
Sirius. "Deere Serious. Pleaze get that trayteris krap netwerk, Error
America, offa my car raydeo or I am a-gonna cansill my supskrishun. I
shir hope y'all get this, I do baleave this is the add-dress they give
out on the Hannah Tee show." Suppose? Maybe Air America got "Dixie
Chicked"? :-)

Chuck,
I thought you said this "Skipper" was JimH?

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Skipper wrote:
OlBlueEyes wrote:

chuckgould wrote:
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Nominee for today's "dumb as a post" post.

Most Libs never learned HOW to think. Not much use in today's world for
these ghetto trained "intellectuals." Little wonder this one migrated to
selling used cars, ripping off the public and government in tax fraud
schemes, and other assorted shyster "deals."

--
Skipper

Oh, look! It's supposedly "Skipper" again. But it isn't, as this
unwarranted personal attack was obviously penned by a deranged and
bitter a-hole. I have met Skipper, and it would be hard to describe him
in such terms.

So, psuedo-Skipper,
Care to enthrall us with your wind-in-the-teeth tale of surviving
hurricane force winds aboard your 22-foot Bayliner in the Sea of
Cortez?
The version where you claimed to have a bunch of gas cans strapped to
the gunwales, (after some spoil sport observed that your boat doesn't
have the fuel capacity to provide the range for the cruise you claimed
to make), would be nice. Some details of how you managed to pour the
fuel from those
portable cans into your fuel tank, bouncing around in the midst of the
Torito hurricane would be interesting as well. (It would probably be
considered polite to spin that yarn "downwind" from the audience).

Of course, you'd need to consult the "real" Skipper for that
information.
Why not check with him, if you can find him, and get back to us?