"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
basskisser wrote:

Skipper wrote in message
...

It's not just the polls which reflect how people are thinking. History
will show the Dems are responsibe for our ever increasing federal
spending with their never ending push towards a fully socialist
economy.

How do you explain, then, that when Clinton was in office, the
nation's budget was balanced, and then when GWB got here, we go into,
and REMAIN in massive debt?


Uh, the republican controlled congress, which took over from late 1994?

Who do you think makes the budget policies?

Dave



Also, we had a hyper stock market, and lots of short term dollars frowed
into the coffers. Clinton had NADA to do about a feeding frenzy of day
traders, but he did benifit from the option's taxes flowing into the
coffers. Even Greenspan said the market was irrational.
Bill

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Yup it's funny that Reagan's budget deficit (Democratic congress) gets
blamed
on the GOP and Clinton's "surplus" (GOP congress) get's credited to the
Democrats.

Yeah. Even you refer to the amounts as "Reagan's" defict and"Clinton's"
surplus. :-)

No chance of confusing responsibility with Bush's deficit. RW president,
RW
congress.

Gould, it hasn't even been a year, yet, in which the Republicans controlled
both Congress and the Presidency. Patience, my man!

Gould, it hasn't even been a year, yet, in which the Republicans controlled
both Congress and the Presidency. Patience, my man!



And in that year, deficit spending has *accelerated*. My patience is worn thin.
:-)

"NOYB" wrote in message
m...

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
Skipper wrote in message
...

It's not just the polls which reflect how people are thinking. History
will show the Dems are responsibe for our ever increasing federal
spending with their never ending push towards a fully socialist
economy.

How do you explain, then, that when Clinton was in office, the
nation's budget was balanced

Because the Republican controlled Congress made good on their promise to
balance the budge in their 1994 Contract with America.


Well, THAT was a convenient thing to do when it suited their goal of making
the president look bad. The current "plan" has an Alice in Wonderland feel
to it, though. UNbalance the budget and make the Republican president look
good? Bad? Something?

"Joe" wrote in message news:dX1Na.15380$n%
So you consider liberal just as derogatory as ******? Maybe we agree on
something.

What a pig.

In message , Harry Krause
wrote:
basskisser wrote:

"This equal emphasis on creating jobs, balancing budgets and expanding
government's social activism sums up Dean's approach to the office he
has held longer than anyone in this century ... Dean's stunning
political success - five re-election bids, none of them close - has
been built on that balanced approach to government."



The Burlington (Vermont) Free Press 9/13/2001
Howard Dean called the governorship "the greatest job in Vermont" when
he took the state's top post in 1991. In the decade since, Governor
Howard Dean has led Vermont with a firm fiscal discipline, an
unwavering commitment to children's health care and education, and a
keen environmental awareness.

Governor Dean is a physician who previously shared a medical practice
with his wife. (To read more about his wife Judy, click here.) He
received his B.A. from Yale University in 1971 and his medical degree
from Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City in 1978. He
served in the Vermont House from 1982 to 1986; was elected lieutenant
governor in 1986, and became governor in 1991 with the death of
then-Governor Richard Snelling.

A common-sense moderate who firmly believes that social justice can
only be accomplished through strong financial management, Governor
Dean has cut the income tax twice, removed the sales tax on most
clothing, and reduced the state's long-term debt. Not only did the
governor pay off an inherited $70 million deficit, he worked with
lawmakers to build "rainy day" reserves to help the state through any
future economic downturn.

During the Dean tenure, more than 41,000 new jobs have been created,
the state's minimum wage has climbed twice, incentive programs have
expanded to help downtowns attract new businesses, and tax incentives
were created to attract and keep new companies.

If fiscal management is Governor Dean's trademark, improving the lives
of Vermont's children is his passion. A physician, Governor Dean
strengthened the Dr. Dynasaur program to guarantee health coverage to
virtually every child in Vermont age 18 and under. Vermont has one of
the lowest uninsured rates in the country -- and highest rates of
immunized children. Governor Dean has expanded programs to help
seniors afford prescription drugs, and signed into law one of the
toughest managed care consumer protections in the United States.

It is preservation of Vermont's precious natural resources and
landscapes that the governor considers his legacy. Governor Dean
worked with local communities and the federal government to preserve
more than one million acres of farmland, shorefront, working forests
and wilderness.

Under the Dean Administration, 76 of the state's leaking landfills
were safely closed, and Vermont became a leader in the move to reduce
mercury pollution and stop power plants from polluting the air.
Governor Dean has created bikeways, led the effort to restore commuter
rail service in Vermont, and led a strong, coordinated attack on
sprawl.

Working with lawmakers, prosecutors, judges and law enforcement,
Governor Dean has cracked down on violent crime in Vermont and ensured
that violent felons spend time behind bars. He has fought to protect
family farms, increased the number of women and minorities in
judgeships and other prominent positions, cracked down on domestic
violence, and put Vermont in the forefront for child support
collections



Dean is a very interesting fellow, but I dunno if the party apparatus
will go for him.


I sure hope the dem party nominates him. He'll make Dukakis's run look
competitive.

NOYB wrote:

In message , Harry Krause
wrote:
basskisser wrote:

"This equal emphasis on creating jobs, balancing budgets and expanding
government's social activism sums up Dean's approach to the office he
has held longer than anyone in this century ... Dean's stunning
political success - five re-election bids, none of them close - has
been built on that balanced approach to government."



The Burlington (Vermont) Free Press 9/13/2001
Howard Dean called the governorship "the greatest job in Vermont" when
he took the state's top post in 1991. In the decade since, Governor
Howard Dean has led Vermont with a firm fiscal discipline, an
unwavering commitment to children's health care and education, and a
keen environmental awareness.

Governor Dean is a physician who previously shared a medical practice
with his wife. (To read more about his wife Judy, click here.) He
received his B.A. from Yale University in 1971 and his medical degree
from Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City in 1978. He
served in the Vermont House from 1982 to 1986; was elected lieutenant
governor in 1986, and became governor in 1991 with the death of
then-Governor Richard Snelling.

A common-sense moderate who firmly believes that social justice can
only be accomplished through strong financial management, Governor
Dean has cut the income tax twice, removed the sales tax on most
clothing, and reduced the state's long-term debt. Not only did the
governor pay off an inherited $70 million deficit, he worked with
lawmakers to build "rainy day" reserves to help the state through any
future economic downturn.

During the Dean tenure, more than 41,000 new jobs have been created,
the state's minimum wage has climbed twice, incentive programs have
expanded to help downtowns attract new businesses, and tax incentives
were created to attract and keep new companies.

If fiscal management is Governor Dean's trademark, improving the lives
of Vermont's children is his passion. A physician, Governor Dean
strengthened the Dr. Dynasaur program to guarantee health coverage to
virtually every child in Vermont age 18 and under. Vermont has one of
the lowest uninsured rates in the country -- and highest rates of
immunized children. Governor Dean has expanded programs to help
seniors afford prescription drugs, and signed into law one of the
toughest managed care consumer protections in the United States.

It is preservation of Vermont's precious natural resources and
landscapes that the governor considers his legacy. Governor Dean
worked with local communities and the federal government to preserve
more than one million acres of farmland, shorefront, working forests
and wilderness.

Under the Dean Administration, 76 of the state's leaking landfills
were safely closed, and Vermont became a leader in the move to reduce
mercury pollution and stop power plants from polluting the air.
Governor Dean has created bikeways, led the effort to restore commuter
rail service in Vermont, and led a strong, coordinated attack on
sprawl.

Working with lawmakers, prosecutors, judges and law enforcement,
Governor Dean has cracked down on violent crime in Vermont and ensured
that violent felons spend time behind bars. He has fought to protect
family farms, increased the number of women and minorities in
judgeships and other prominent positions, cracked down on domestic
violence, and put Vermont in the forefront for child support
collections



Dean is a very interesting fellow, but I dunno if the party apparatus
will go for him.


I sure hope the dem party nominates him. He'll make Dukakis's run look
competitive.

I believe the great unwashed American public is beginning to wake up and
realize how totally incompetent George W. Bush is. He is a complete
failure, and a dangerous one to boot. He lies about important matters.
He's busted the budget and is squandering the future of generations of
Americans yet to come. He's divisive. He's destroyed alliances with
other countries.

But he's your boy. You can have him.



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"NOYB" wrote in message news:F2kbb.18137 Dean is a very
interesting fellow, but I dunno if the party apparatus
will go for him.


I sure hope the dem party nominates him. He'll make Dukakis's run look
competitive.


All this comparing Dead to McGovern (or Dukakis) is non-sense. The political
landscape is different, the media landscape is different, and the man is
much
Different.

Dean *can* be nominated and *can* win.

Personally, I believe that if he's nominated he will beat Bush. I also
believe
that if Kerry, or Clark are nominated they'll beat him too.

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message news:F2kbb.18137 Dean is a very
interesting fellow, but I dunno if the party apparatus
will go for him.


I sure hope the dem party nominates him. He'll make Dukakis's run look
competitive.


All this comparing Dead to McGovern (or Dukakis) is non-sense. The
political
landscape is different, the media landscape is different, and the man is
much
Different.

Dean *can* be nominated and *can* win.

Personally, I believe that if he's nominated he will beat Bush. I also
believe
that if Kerry, or Clark are nominated they'll beat him too.


And Gary also believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny.

NOYB wrote:

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message news:F2kbb.18137 Dean is a very
interesting fellow, but I dunno if the party apparatus
will go for him.


I sure hope the dem party nominates him. He'll make Dukakis's run look
competitive.


All this comparing Dead to McGovern (or Dukakis) is non-sense. The
political
landscape is different, the media landscape is different, and the man is
much
Different.

Dean *can* be nominated and *can* win.

Personally, I believe that if he's nominated he will beat Bush. I also
believe
that if Kerry, or Clark are nominated they'll beat him too.


And Gary also believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny.



On rare occasions, and those occasions are becoming more rare, I point
out a spelling error as indicative of the idiocy of the poster.

Santa Clause, eh?

Ignorant ass.

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