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Advice sought on electric trailer winches...
K. Smith wrote:
Just another of your lies hey Harry??? You don't own a boat & never have, It's amazing, considering your obvious continued abuse of restricted substances, how you keep earning these five day releases from incarceration, Ms. Smith. How's that imaginary diesel outboard motor manufacturing facility you don't have? Got any advice on trailer winching? Not trailer wenching, which I'll bet you do know, eh? |
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Advice sought on electric trailer winches...
"K. Smith" wrote in message ... Just another of your lies hey Harry??? You don't own a boat & never have, not your latest manufactured lie about the Parker nor the "lobster" boat you claim & you most certainly didn't launch anything "on your own", the real owners of the Parker would never ever allow that, not even regular paying charter customers. You just make these stories up once & a while to try & pretend you're a boater, to cover for your political lying spam. Oh well I guess your boat lies are tame compared to your loony left political lies, Harry the liar of the left. Here's some of your previous lies, pasted in your own words of course, about boats & a BS story you made up about your father in your sad attempts to pretend you're something you're not, & what you are is well below a turd on a stick. Harry's own words; "Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have. Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice. Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have. Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have. Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have. Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under your command? I have." OR "My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in winter in a 22'boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the fuel. Got a "fireboat" welcome in NYC." Krause recently claimed his wife was a doctor and working towards a PhD....he said he calls her doctor-doctor. When challenged, he backed down on the claim. I made a $10,000 bet with Krause that he did not own a custom made 36 foot lobster boat. I offered to fly down at my own expense. He turned down the bet. Don't forget his previous claim of owning a Hatteras...yet he was found to be a liar on this claim also. He has a history of having to fabricate stories about his life for some strange reason. All lies. His real life must be pretty darn boring. How sad it is for him to have to wake up each morning and realizing he has to go through another day living the nightmare life of Harry Krause. |
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Advice sought on electric trailer winches...
Just another of your lies hey Harry??? You don't own a boat & never have, not your latest manufactured lie about the Parker nor the "lobster" boat you claim & you most certainly didn't launch anything "on your own", the real owners of the Parker would never ever allow that, not even regular paying charter customers. You just make these stories up once & a while to try & pretend you're a boater, to cover for your political lying spam. Oh well I guess your boat lies are tame compared to your loony left political lies, Harry the liar of the left. Here's some of your previous lies, pasted in your own words of course, about boats & a BS story you made up about your father in your sad attempts to pretend you're something you're not, & what you are is well below a turd on a stick. Harry's own words; "Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have. Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice. Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have. Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have. Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have. Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under your command? I have." OR "My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in winter in a 22'boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the fuel. Got a "fireboat" welcome in NYC." Harry Krause wrote: Yesterday, just for the hell of it, I did a solo launch and retrieval of our Parker 25. The launch was easy, as I was using a deep ramp. The boat just floated free of the trailer, so I tied it off and parked the tow vehicle and trailer. The retrieval was more complicated, but I was able to do it. I'm wondering, though, whether it would be simpler to buy and install an electric trailer winch with the capacity to pull the boat up into position on the trailer. It's a bunk trailer, and, simply by tugging hard on a line attached to the bow deck chock, I can get the boat pretty much up on the trailer. I winch it up the remaining two feet using a hand winch, and, while I can do it, it takes considerable effort. The winch is sized properly for the boat...but it is a large, heavy boat. Installing an electric winch on my trailer is not difficult. Where do you put the battery, though? And...how long do these electric winches last? I always see guys at the boat ramp struggling with "dead" electric winches...do they burn out in a hurry? Does rain shorten their lives? Advice? Brand recommendation? We're talking a 3-1/2 ton boat/motor/fuel and gear load here, I'd guess. |
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Advice sought on electric trailer winches...
jim-- wrote:
"K. Smith" wrote in message ... Just another of your lies hey Harry??? You don't own a boat & never have, not your latest manufactured lie about the Parker nor the "lobster" boat you claim & you most certainly didn't launch anything "on your own", the real owners of the Parker would never ever allow that, not even regular paying charter customers. You just make these stories up once & a while to try & pretend you're a boater, to cover for your political lying spam. Oh well I guess your boat lies are tame compared to your loony left political lies, Harry the liar of the left. Here's some of your previous lies, pasted in your own words of course, about boats & a BS story you made up about your father in your sad attempts to pretend you're something you're not, & what you are is well below a turd on a stick. Harry's own words; "Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have. Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice. Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have. Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have. Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have. Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under your command? I have." OR "My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in winter in a 22'boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the fuel. Got a "fireboat" welcome in NYC." Krause recently claimed his wife was a doctor and working towards a PhD....he said he calls her doctor-doctor. When challenged, he backed down on the claim. I made a $10,000 bet with Krause that he did not own a custom made 36 foot lobster boat. I offered to fly down at my own expense. He turned down the bet. Don't forget his previous claim of owning a Hatteras...yet he was found to be a liar on this claim also. He has a history of having to fabricate stories about his life for some strange reason. All lies. His real life must be pretty darn boring. How sad it is for him to have to wake up each morning and realizing he has to go through another day living the nightmare life of Harry Krause. Yep Jim he sure is a sad little grub, although I say he has a mental problem (I reckon he's appropriated his therapist to create the "wife" lies, probably court ordered therapist of course:-)) so is sorta not responsible. However as for his little groupies like asskisser etc that tag along lapping happily from his sewer of lies??? they really are the simpletons. Ah I do love the smell of roasting liar in the morning, garnished with simpletons:-) K |
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Advice sought on electric trailer winches...
My 24 ft I/O cuddy weighs almost as much and has the same issues
although I don't store it on the trailer most of the time. It's my sense of things that if you have access to a good deep water ramp, a winch is not really needed. The key is backing the trailer to exactly the right depth. My technique is to first back the trailer to a depth where the boat will stay put on the bunks and allow the bow cable to be attached. If you then back a little deeper, the boat should winch on with almost no effort. You can put depth markers on your guide tubes to show both levels although this will vary somewhat depending on ramp steepness. ================================================== = On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:45:50 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Yesterday, just for the hell of it, I did a solo launch and retrieval of our Parker 25. The launch was easy, as I was using a deep ramp. The boat just floated free of the trailer, so I tied it off and parked the tow vehicle and trailer. The retrieval was more complicated, but I was able to do it. I'm wondering, though, whether it would be simpler to buy and install an electric trailer winch with the capacity to pull the boat up into position on the trailer. It's a bunk trailer, and, simply by tugging hard on a line attached to the bow deck chock, I can get the boat pretty much up on the trailer. I winch it up the remaining two feet using a hand winch, and, while I can do it, it takes considerable effort. The winch is sized properly for the boat...but it is a large, heavy boat. Installing an electric winch on my trailer is not difficult. Where do you put the battery, though? And...how long do these electric winches last? I always see guys at the boat ramp struggling with "dead" electric winches...do they burn out in a hurry? Does rain shorten their lives? Advice? Brand recommendation? We're talking a 3-1/2 ton boat/motor/fuel and gear load here, I'd guess. |
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Advice sought on electric trailer winches...
Wayne.B wrote:
My 24 ft I/O cuddy weighs almost as much and has the same issues although I don't store it on the trailer most of the time. It's my sense of things that if you have access to a good deep water ramp, a winch is not really needed. The key is backing the trailer to exactly the right depth. My technique is to first back the trailer to a depth where the boat will stay put on the bunks and allow the bow cable to be attached. If you then back a little deeper, the boat should winch on with almost no effort. You can put depth markers on your guide tubes to show both levels although this will vary somewhat depending on ramp steepness. ================================================== = On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:45:50 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Yesterday, just for the hell of it, I did a solo launch and retrieval of our Parker 25. The launch was easy, as I was using a deep ramp. The boat just floated free of the trailer, so I tied it off and parked the tow vehicle and trailer. Thanks. Yes, I back the trailer down into the water to where a cross brace traverses the front of the "A-frame" and at this point, the stern of the boat floats and I can then push it off the trailer. For retrieval, I probably should back the trailer down a few more inches and see what happens. I really hadn't tried to do this alone before, because of the size and weight of the boat, and its windage. But it wasn't too bad. I am not a fan of "powering" the boat onto the trailer, since that puts a hell of a strain on the trailer bunks and uprights. One of the guys on a fishing board suggested I make sure I am in "low" gear when winding up the winch, and you know, that never occurred to me...I do have a two-speed winch, and I've never tried "low." Fortunately, the ramp I am using is pretty decent, and there always are bunches of guys around to lend a hand or at least to giggle, although everyone really is very helpful. |
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Advice sought on electric trailer winches...
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:21:56 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Wayne.B wrote: My 24 ft I/O cuddy weighs almost as much and has the same issues although I don't store it on the trailer most of the time. It's my sense of things that if you have access to a good deep water ramp, a winch is not really needed. The key is backing the trailer to exactly the right depth. My technique is to first back the trailer to a depth where the boat will stay put on the bunks and allow the bow cable to be attached. If you then back a little deeper, the boat should winch on with almost no effort. You can put depth markers on your guide tubes to show both levels although this will vary somewhat depending on ramp steepness. ================================================== = On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:45:50 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Yesterday, just for the hell of it, I did a solo launch and retrieval of our Parker 25. The launch was easy, as I was using a deep ramp. The boat just floated free of the trailer, so I tied it off and parked the tow vehicle and trailer. Thanks. Yes, I back the trailer down into the water to where a cross brace traverses the front of the "A-frame" and at this point, the stern of the boat floats and I can then push it off the trailer. For retrieval, I probably should back the trailer down a few more inches and see what happens. I really hadn't tried to do this alone before, because of the size and weight of the boat, and its windage. But it wasn't too bad. I am not a fan of "powering" the boat onto the trailer, since that puts a hell of a strain on the trailer bunks and uprights. One of the guys on a fishing board suggested I make sure I am in "low" gear when winding up the winch, and you know, that never occurred to me...I do have a two-speed winch, and I've never tried "low." Fortunately, the ramp I am using is pretty decent, and there always are bunches of guys around to lend a hand or at least to giggle, although everyone really is very helpful. Use low range. I'd take two feet of hand winching and be happy with it. If winching the boat two feet is wearing you out, then you need more exercise. John H If it does wear me out, I'll be sure to let you know, John. |
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Advice sought on electric trailer winches...
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:21:56 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: One of the guys on a fishing board suggested I make sure I am in "low" gear when winding up the winch, and you know, that never occurred to me...I do have a two-speed winch, and I've never tried "low." ================================= It works but on my trailer low gear is like watching grass grow. |
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Advice sought on electric trailer winches...
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:21:56 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: One of the guys on a fishing board suggested I make sure I am in "low" gear when winding up the winch, and you know, that never occurred to me...I do have a two-speed winch, and I've never tried "low." ================================= It works but on my trailer low gear is like watching grass grow. I'm sure you are correct. If it is too slow, and the guys waiting for the ramp complain, I'll suggest they hop in the water behind the boat and push! |
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Advice sought on electric trailer winches...
Thanks. Yes, I back the trailer down into the water to where a cross
brace traverses the front of the "A-frame" and at this point, the stern of the boat floats and I can then push it off the trailer. For retrieval, I probably should back the trailer down a few more inches and see what happens For retrieving, there is a trade-off between getting the boat aligned on the bunks (trailer higher out of the water) and not having much to winch up (trailer lower in the water). It is difficult to get this perfect the first time, especially since it's also affected by the ramp's pitch. ... I am not a fan of "powering" the boat onto the trailer, since that puts a hell of a strain on the trailer bunks and uprights. And the transom, and tends to suck dirt into the impeller, and erodes the bank under the ramp... this last point is why "power loading" is against the rules at many ramps. But a lot of people do it anyway. One of the guys on a fishing board suggested I make sure I am in "low" gear when winding up the winch, and you know, that never occurred to me...I do have a two-speed winch, and I've never tried "low." ??? JohnH wrote: Use low range. I'd take two feet of hand winching and be happy with it. If winching the boat two feet is wearing you out, then you need more exercise. Agreed. Two feet ought not be a problem. Fair Skies Doug King |
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