For some reason A4s seem to get a big thrill of not starting when
you're about to go under a draw bridge. At that point they're about
as useful as the information Jax gave you in another post.


one thing JAX has NEVER stated is that an emergency anchor always at the ready
is a required safety item. you see only drivers of smelly, vibranting diesels
with finicky fuel systems believe that tripe.

want an diesel? be sure to carry your spare anchor at the ready in the
cockpit. Atomic 4 owners have no idea why you do that but you can feel smug
telling *that* is in case your engine quits.

On 06 Jul 2004 03:44:29 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

want an diesel? be sure to carry your spare anchor at the ready in the
cockpit. Atomic 4 owners have no idea why you do that but you can feel smug
telling *that* is in case your engine quits.

Let me guess, Jax owns an A4 so it's the best possible engine. When
Jax is able to get a diesel, he'll cuss A4s for the rest of his life.

bb

I own lots of engines. I laugh at idiots who make idiotic statements about
engines.

btw, the ill-fated fishing boat in "The Perfect Storm" had what kind of engine
installed.

I guarantee you, it was a gasoline engine, according to the author of the book.

So, was it a gas engine or a diesel or a steam engine or a nuclear reactor?

bla keys is gonna tell us, right?

From: "
Date: 7/6/2004 11:07 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

On 06 Jul 2004 03:44:29 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

want an diesel? be sure to carry your spare anchor at the ready in the
cockpit. Atomic 4 owners have no idea why you do that but you can feel smug
telling *that* is in case your engine quits.

Let me guess, Jax owns an A4 so it's the best possible engine. When
Jax is able to get a diesel, he'll cuss A4s for the rest of his life.

bb

Subject: atomic 4
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 07/06/2004 20:26 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

I own lots of engines. I laugh at idiots who make idiotic statements about
engines.

btw, the ill-fated fishing boat in "The Perfect Storm" had what kind of
engine
installed.

I guarantee you, it was a gasoline engine, according to the author of the
book.

So, was it a gas engine or a diesel or a steam engine or a nuclear reactor?

G I'll guarantee you it was diesel.
No commercial fisherman with a boat that size and the requirements placed on
the engine for continuous operation and power take-offs would be using a gas
engine.
I'll let others argue torque, reliability, time between overhauls, HP and fuel
economy.

Shen

Shen44 wrote:
Subject: atomic 4
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 07/06/2004 20:26 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

I own lots of engines. I laugh at idiots who make idiotic statements about
engines.

btw, the ill-fated fishing boat in "The Perfect Storm" had what kind of
engine
installed.

I guarantee you, it was a gasoline engine, according to the author of the
book.

So, was it a gas engine or a diesel or a steam engine or a nuclear reactor?


G I'll guarantee you it was diesel.
No commercial fisherman with a boat that size and the requirements placed on
the engine for continuous operation and power take-offs would be using a gas
engine.
I'll let others argue torque, reliability, time between overhauls, HP and fuel
economy.

Shen


Shen, it's a simple Jaxass troll, looking for an argument.
The idiot has never been closer than 100' to a boat like this, and
wouldn't have a clue as to what he was seeing, if he had.

otn

sorry, shen, but the author clearly stated the engine was gasoline.

I own lots of engines. I laugh at idiots who make idiotic statements about
engines.

btw, the ill-fated fishing boat in "The Perfect Storm" had what kind of
engine
installed.

I guarantee you, it was a gasoline engine, according to the author of the
book.

So, was it a gas engine or a diesel or a steam engine or a nuclear reactor?

G I'll guarantee you it was diesel.
No commercial fisherman with a boat that size and the requirements placed on
the engine for continuous operation and power take-offs would be using a gas
engine.
I'll let others argue torque, reliability, time between overhauls, HP and
fuel
economy.

Shen

sorry, over the knee, the author clearly stated the boat had a gasoline engine.
Do you have trouble reading English?

Shen44 wrote:
Subject: atomic 4
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 07/06/2004 20:26 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

I own lots of engines. I laugh at idiots who make idiotic statements about
engines.

btw, the ill-fated fishing boat in "The Perfect Storm" had what kind of
engine
installed.

I guarantee you, it was a gasoline engine, according to the author of the
book.

So, was it a gas engine or a diesel or a steam engine or a nuclear reactor?


G I'll guarantee you it was diesel.
No commercial fisherman with a boat that size and the requirements placed
on
the engine for continuous operation and power take-offs would be using a
gas
engine.
I'll let others argue torque, reliability, time between overhauls, HP and
fuel
economy.

Shen


Shen, it's a simple Jaxass troll, looking for an argument.
The idiot has never been closer than 100' to a boat like this, and
wouldn't have a clue as to what he was seeing, if he had.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
sorry, over the knee, the author clearly stated the boat had a gasoline engine.
Do you have trouble reading English?

Do you believe everything you see in print? If you do, you're dumber
than I thought.... and I think your basic intelligence level is quite low.
To be blunt, I don't give a rats ass what the "author" said .... that
boat had a diesel engine.


nuff said

otn

sorry, over the knee, the author clearly stated the boat had a gasoline
engine.
Do you have trouble reading English?

Here's a link to a page where the author uses the phrase "without diesel
engine" but he wasn't stating that the Andrea Gail
didn't have a diesel. He was stating that the fishing industry might be able to
continue without diesel engines, but not without ice.

http://www.capepondice.com/perfectstorm_movie.htm



"Lady Grace" built side by side and virtually identical to "Andrea Gail" in
Panama City, FLA, has a 1271 Detroit Diesel



Quote:
And so the Lady Grace begins her long journey back to a normal life as an
ordinary swordfishing boat after starring as the Andrea Gail in The Perfect
Storm. Built side by side with the Andrea Gail in Panama City, FL in 1978, the
Lady Grace is nearly identical to the ship that ran into the Halloween Storm of
1991.

Capt. Layton, who trolls the Atlantic for swordfish, tuna and the occasional
mako shark, spent most of last year hanging out with Hollywood big fish like
George Clooney and director-producer Wolfgang Petersen while captaining the
ship for film shoots in Gloucester, MA and southern California. So with the
film now behind them, Sonny and crew have one last journey to make before they
can roll out the longlines again. And do what they do best? Fish.

Sonny has captained the Lady Grace for the past six years, spending most of
that time at sea. As we passed Cabo San Lucas at the tip of Baja California,
Sonny was feeling right at home. "I'm in heaven," he said from his wheelhouse
throne. "I got my girl back and I'm in the middle of the ocean. It doesn't get
any better for me."

For the next four weeks, the Lady Grace will sail down the coast of Mexico and
Central America to the Panama Canal. After crossing the canal for the first
time since being turned over to Panamanian control, the ship will steam through
the Cayman Islands in the Caribbean Sea to our first port of call — Miami,
FL. From there we'll catch the Gulf Stream and ride the Atlantic highway up to
New York City, Boston, and finally back to Gloucester where the Crow's Nest
stands lookout behind the marina.

The Lady Grace is a western rig longliner primarily used for catching large
pelagic fish like tuna, swordfish, and mahi mahi. She's 73 feet long, 20 feet
wide and weighs 93 tons — without a hold full of ice and fish. There's not a
lot of comfort on this vessel. It was designed for two things only — catching
fish and storing fish. On level with the deck are two small bunkrooms, which
can stack four fishermen sleeping nose to tail. It's so cramped that once
you've climbed out of bed, you've already left the room. A narrow galley
connects the sleeping quarters to two ladders - one leading up to Sonny's
wheelhouse and the other down to the engine room where Bill Botsch keeps the
1271 Detroit diesel engine purring like a catfish.

End quote.......

Depending on how the engine is set up,
I believe most 1271's produce 700-1000 HP.

Can you suggest a gasoline engine that would be suitable for an application
like the Andrea Gail?

Subject: atomic 4
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 07/07/2004 18:26 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

sorry, shen, but the author clearly stated the engine was gasoline.


Could care less what some writer stated.
No one in their right mind would power a boat that size with gasoline.
Considering the size of the boat and duration of the trips and requirements
beside the propellor, how many 600HP (and I'll admit that's a guess) gasoline
engines do you know of that are "marinized" to run for two weeks at a time (+)
at that rated HP, and to last 8-9,000 hrs (@300,000-400,000 miles) before a top
end overhaul.
Take a look at the web sight for the Andrea Gail and look at the pictures of
the sister boat.... my guess, a Detroit 149 something or other. (could be a
smaller 71/92) Do you know why I'm guessing Detroit?
Sorry Jax, but, unlike you, I've been around a lot of fishing boats over the
last 30-40 years, and I've seen few if any "gasoline" powered boats.

Shen