Subject: The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 07/10/2004 14:05 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

shen, you don't seem to understand the irony intended from the start (look up
the big words b/4 you respond yet again telling us that the boat really
probably maybe did have a diesel engine)

ROFL Keep trying Jax. You've convinced yourself you didn't screw up, yet again.
Maybe you'll convince a few others who haven't enjoyed the laugh of watching
you attempt to weasle out of your constant screw ups.
Wadda hey, you're the one who said "guaranteed the Andrea Gail had a gasoline
engine".....ah well, had my fun.

Till your next screw up, Jaxass.

Shen

shen, you are too stupid for words. Even after I explained -- several times --
how I set you up, you still don't get it.

shen, you don't seem to understand the irony intended from the start (look
up
the big words b/4 you respond yet again telling us that the boat really
probably maybe did have a diesel engine)

ROFL Keep trying Jax. You've convinced yourself you didn't screw up, yet
again.
Maybe you'll convince a few others who haven't enjoyed the laugh of watching
you attempt to weasle out of your constant screw ups.
Wadda hey, you're the one who said "guaranteed the Andrea Gail had a gasoline
engine".....ah well, had my fun.

Till your next screw up, Jaxass.

Shen

On 10 Jul 2004 18:27:18 GMT, something compelled
(Shen44), to say:

Subject: The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
From: "Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam"


BTW, I seem to remember an old CAT tractor whose engine started as a
gasoline
engine, and when warmed up, converted to diesel....could be wrong.

There are some old tractors that use a gasoline engine as a
starter motor. You'd start the gasoline engine and then couple
its output through a clutch to turn the diesel engine, getting it
to start. I guess that was because they didn't carry enough
electrical power to use an electric motor to turn the diesel, or
maybe they did it that way because it's Just Cool.


I've seen what you are mentioning above, but for some reason, I remember this
as the main engine was started on and as a gasoline engine, then switched.
It was an old Cat dozer, and as stated previously, I could be wrong.

A diesel engine has a much higher compression ratio than does a
gasoline engine. Not only does this make the diesel more
efficient, but it's what drives the ignition stroke. The
compression stroke on a diesel compresses air, and the diesel oil
is injected at the top of the stroke. The compressed air is so
hot it ignites the oil, providing power.

If you injected gasoline into that environment, you'd get
detonation so serious it would probably destroy the engine.

he
compression stroke on a diesel compresses air,

it does on a gas engine, too.

The compressed air is so
hot it ignites the oil, providing power.

it is doens't ignite, no power of course.

If you injected gasoline into that environment,

multi-fuel engine don't work that way.

you'd get
detonation so serious it would probably destroy the engine.

the problem on a multi-fuel engine is the low compression ration.

On 10 Jul 2004 21:10:56 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

Jox, why don't you say it one more time. idiot.

Steve

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

Oh, good one! Is that your sense of irony coming through again?

Steve

schlackoff, diesel engines with spark plugs are called "multi-fuel"
engines
and
are rare.

Which proves you can't read. It didn't say "spark" plugs.

schlackie, you were caught with a fish hook in your mouth.

Joxitchbe, you were caught in yet another blunder. Add it to the list.

Steve

For sure it did, for the author specificly mentioned the crew of the
ill-fated
vessel was so anxious about the trip that they went to the boat the
night
before leaving to clean the plugs on the engine.

One sentence, just one sentence, but it clearly shows the Andrea Gail
had
a
gasoline engine. At least in the First Edition (for those out there who
know
what a First Edition is, the rest of you can go fry an egg).

THAT's it? That's what you're basing your assertion that the Andrea
Gail had a gas engine on? No mention of the type of engine? No mention
of fuel? Jax, FYI, diesel engines can have plugs also. So it could
have been a diesel engine and the author not even be wrong in his
statement. If he had actually said it was a gas engine, he surely would
have been wrong.

Since you know so much about gas engines, what model gas engine do you
think it had?

Steve

On 10 Jul 2004 21:12:42 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

there you have it, folks, schlackoff telling us that the diesel engines used by
commercial fishermen are so unreliable that those engine have "to be torn down"
after every trip to sea.

There's your reading comprehension problem shining through again. The
reason those diesel engines are so reliable is that they are usually
serviced after every long trip to sea. When your livelyhood and life
depend on an engine running, you take care of it.

Steve


schlackoff, NObody "cleans" fuel injectors on a diesel the night before
leaving
on an ocean trip, and NObody cleans the glow plugs either. btw, wanna tell
us
just how glow plugs are cleaned by the crew?

also, why in hell do fishing boats "often do a teardown" (your words, see
below) on a engine to do a major overhaul (as you as described, see below)
"between such trips"? (your words, see below)

Because they put so many hours on it at a time. Because they depend on
their single engine to get them out and back over thousands of miles at
a time. Because the engines we're talking about are made to be easily
serviced with replacable wear items.


Your mistake is assuming that he meant "spark" plugs when he said plugs

I made no mistake at all. the author made the mistake, I just noticed it.
you
schlackoff, on the other hand, STILL are not sure that maybe the author was
right and the crew cleaned the plugs the night before they left.

The author may have made a mistake, and may not have made a mistake.
You just can't read, that's all. You added "spark" in front of plugs
when it wasn't there. So no matter what the author said, you were wrong
and like always, just can't admit it.

Steve

Subject: The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 07/10/2004 15:23 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

shen, you are too stupid for words. Even after I explained -- several times
--
how I set you up, you still don't get it.


Jax, You are too stupid for words. You didn't set anyone up.
You screwed up and are now and ever will be trying to weasle out of your screw
up
Your so called explainations are nothing but BS.

Shen

On 10 Jul 2004 21:15:09 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, we are waiting for you to tell just what kind of "plugs" the
diesel engine on a commercial fishing boat has that might be cleaned by the
nervous crew the night before departing.

Anything from electrical plugs to hair plugs. The point is that you
made a reading mistake by putting spark in front of plugs when it wasn't
there. It's actually quite common for people to do things like that,
i.e, fill in a familiar missing word subconsciously. It's what you did
and you just can't admit you made a mistake.

Shall we hold our collective breath for your help in filling this gap in our
understanding?

Yes, hold your breath.

Steve

shen, you are too stupid for words.

shen, you are too stupid for words. Even after I explained -- several times
--
how I set you up, you still don't get it.


Jax, You are too stupid for words. You didn't set anyone up.
You screwed up and are now and ever will be trying to weasle out of your
screw
up
Your so called explainations are nothing but BS.

Shen

schlackoff, in the unlikely event you might understand this, here goes as you
requested.


schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.



schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

Jox, why don't you say it one more time. idiot.

Steve

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

Oh, good one! Is that your sense of irony coming through again?

Steve

schlackoff, diesel engines with spark plugs are called "multi-fuel"
engines
and
are rare.

Which proves you can't read. It didn't say "spark" plugs.

schlackie, you were caught with a fish hook in your mouth.

Joxitchbe, you were caught in yet another blunder. Add it to the list.

Steve

For sure it did, for the author specificly mentioned the crew of the
ill-fated
vessel was so anxious about the trip that they went to the boat the
night
before leaving to clean the plugs on the engine.

One sentence, just one sentence, but it clearly shows the Andrea Gail
had
a
gasoline engine. At least in the First Edition (for those out there
who
know
what a First Edition is, the rest of you can go fry an egg).

THAT's it? That's what you're basing your assertion that the Andrea
Gail had a gas engine on? No mention of the type of engine? No
mention
of fuel? Jax, FYI, diesel engines can have plugs also. So it could
have been a diesel engine and the author not even be wrong in his
statement. If he had actually said it was a gas engine, he surely
would
have been wrong.

Since you know so much about gas engines, what model gas engine do you
think it had?

Steve