Boy are you going over the edge.

I'm going over the edge? Seems that you, JoeTechnician, are the
one
who has GONE over! You don't know whether or not you need a
license in
Florida. You don't know whether you HAVE a license in Florida, you
don't know whether or not you need a license in Georgia, you don't
know whether or not you HAVE a license in Georgia, you don't know
whether or not you have reciprocity in Georgia.

Once again, Dummy-
http://tinyurl.com/jpwb

Why don't you explain how you were licensed in 27 states last year
and
now
your licensed in only 4.
Did you fail the drug screening process?
Did 23 of states recently enact mental health requirements?

The company I WORKED FOR....big difference.

Your so full of ****. If *you* don't personally hold the license in each
state, *you* are not licensed in each state.
Big difference between stating that "I'm now licensed in 27 states" and
the
"company I worked for" is licensed in 27 states.

http://tinyurl.com/jrla


So, are you going to ignore everything you can't respond to?

When you said that "I'm now licensed in 27 states" you broke the law in (at
least) 23 states.
Probably the other 4 also.

You can not say your a Licensed Engineer in 27 states if you are not
personally licensed in each state.

why dont you tell us who you work for, and what state your license is in?

chris

Subject: OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
From: (basskisser)
Date: 8/11/03 4:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs. Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never been in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill

Bill, name calling is SO school girlish. It really does nothing to try
to bolster your point.

The company that I contract for does only heavy industrial structural
engineering, therefore you can't hire us. You know nothing of my
engineering capabilities, and never will. Therefore, it is simply
stupid to pretend that you do. Now, you are again WRONG. In MOST
STATES, you can NOT use the word "engineer" in your name, your
company's name, or any advertisement, UNLESS you are a licensed
engineer. Period. Need more proof? I've already posted Georgia's.

Subject: OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
From: "Bill Cole"
Date: 8/11/03 2:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

When you see people such as Harry and Basslicker spending so much time
telling you their credentials, it makes you wonder if they are really lying
or just very very insecure. My guess is both.

throw calif bill in that too. dont let your political affiliation blind you of
displays of arrogance.

chris

Bingo!

Atlantacad, KevinCad, JimDandy, etc.

All the same guy.


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
Ooh. Now I remember. BassKisser is the cad entry grunt.

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...
aka--Atlantacad



"Joe" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
om...
aka--Kevincad


aka-- OnLanier

aka-- Kevin Noble

I'm sure there's a few more.

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:%C9_a.88822$cF.27123@rwcrnsc53...
yeah, he is a little computer geek, who has trouble getting along with
anyone.

His company let him go because he spent all of his time arguing
with his coworkers.

Sad little man.


I would guess the amount of time he spends in this NG (and possibly others) during
working hours had something to do with it also.

But he just said he has been an independent contractor for the past 5 years. How long
ago was he let go by his former employer? Was it in fact an engineering firm?

Independent Contractor means he was laid off, don't you know anything. ; )
"Jim" wrote in message
news:JKd_a.129176$o%2.55680@sccrnsc02...

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:%C9_a.88822$cF.27123@rwcrnsc53...
yeah, he is a little computer geek, who has trouble getting along with
anyone.

His company let him go because he spent all of his time arguing
with his coworkers.

Sad little man.


I would guess the amount of time he spends in this NG (and possibly
others) during
working hours had something to do with it also.

But he just said he has been an independent contractor for the past 5
years. How long
ago was he let go by his former employer? Was it in fact an engineering
firm?

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Rural Knight" wrote in message
news:Jh6_a.9562

Yeah - I would in fact. In particular for Connecticut.

Curiosity ya know?

Later,

Tom

Tom, straight from the State of Conn. website, go there for the
complete, very long verbage:

~~ snippage ~~

Yes - that isn't the point of discussion though. I understand the
Professional Engineer qualifications - I understand that part. I've
said so - let me reiterate - I UNDERSTAND THE PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER QUALIFICATIONS AND THE NEED THEREOF.

Just for the sake of discussion and curiosity (once more):

You stated (complete exchange before I started):

"Joe" wrote in message
...

And I like to do Crown Molding and upgrades to homes and condos.
Bill

Practicing coping without a P.E license?

Wait till asskisser hears about this!

Idiot reply. I said you can't legally practice engineering without a
license. Prove me wrong.

Come on, JoeTechnician."

To which I replied with a reference and site URL that basically
said that yes, you can practice as an engineer, you just can't
call yourself a Professional Engineer (more on which, later).

Subsequently, you stated (in the following post):

------------------------------------------------------------------

"You can NOT call yourself an engineer, have "engineer" in the name of
your company, etc. unless you are licensed to practice engineering in
that particular state, and like you've said, most states are typical.
The key to your example, is that the FIRM needs to have a licensed
engineer on staff. The rest, are designers. If you take the whole
picture into context, it changes. If you take just the parts that
you've snipped, then there would never be a need for anybody to be a
licensed professional engineer."

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Now, this begs an interesting question. Other than the Professional
License process, nowhere in the licensure process in the State
of Connecticut does "Engineering License" appear with two exceptions:
Architect and Professional Engineer. Does not say you have to have
a license to call yourself an Engineer of any discipline, run a business
as an Engineer of any discipline, be an Engineer of any discipline or
practice as an Engineering Consultant of any discipline. Thus, one
can BE an engineer, can call oneself an engineer, act as an engineer,
run an engineering business - in short, do everything except be a
Professional Engineer which has a separate set of qualifications.
(And before you go there, yes, I recognize that you need to have
a license to run a business, but that is for tax purposes, referral
and other business type stuff not what you can call the business
or yourself.)

Reference: http://www.ct-clic.com/alpha.asp?g=1

As I asked in another post to which you have yet to respond:

Let's say I have an engineering degree (M.E), Masters - Applied
Materials Science and a PhD in Mathematics - I cannot be an
engineer unless I pass some sort of license and/or professional
practicum governed by either the state or peer review?

Or let's take this case - I graduate from MIT as a ME, I am hired
as an ME, I work for the company as an ME and I cannot
call myself an ME unless the state or professional organization
recognizes me as such?

Once again just so we can keep the discussion on track:

I recognize the need for professional engineers - my argument is
with the term engineer. One cannot be something unless one is
something. My argument is that one can be an engineer even if it
is at a junior or precept level. To wit: If I give a design project to
a junior engineer and I observe, review and approve his resulting
efforts, is that junior engineer not an engineer?

Later,

Tom

"Joe" wrote in message
...
Boy are you going over the edge.

I'm going over the edge? Seems that you, JoeTechnician, are the
one
who has GONE over! You don't know whether or not you need a
license in
Florida. You don't know whether you HAVE a license in Florida,
you
don't know whether or not you need a license in Georgia, you
don't
know whether or not you HAVE a license in Georgia, you don't
know
whether or not you have reciprocity in Georgia.

Once again, Dummy-
http://tinyurl.com/jpwb

Why don't you explain how you were licensed in 27 states last year
and
now
your licensed in only 4.
Did you fail the drug screening process?
Did 23 of states recently enact mental health requirements?

The company I WORKED FOR....big difference.

Your so full of ****. If *you* don't personally hold the license in
each
state, *you* are not licensed in each state.
Big difference between stating that "I'm now licensed in 27 states"
and
the
"company I worked for" is licensed in 27 states.

http://tinyurl.com/jrla


So, are you going to ignore everything you can't respond to?

When you said that "I'm now licensed in 27 states" you broke the law in
(at
least) 23 states.
Probably the other 4 also.

You can not say your a Licensed Engineer in 27 states if you are not
personally licensed in each state.

That would be in those states which actually have a license procedure
for being an engineer - which are few.

Later,

Tom

NOYB wrote:
Just curious. Some of the Ivy league schools are quite liberal...and some
are quite conservative. If you went to Dartmouth, you were likely very
lonely. If you went to Brown or Princeton, you probably fit right in. If
you went to Yale, you are bitter for not being selected into the order of
Skull and Bones.



Absurd. The Ivy schools are hotbeds of intellectual and philsophical
diversity.

By the time Dubya was at Yale, Skull was mostly nothing more than a
booze club.

The 'Poofs and the Yale Russian Chorus guys got all the good-looking babes.



--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.

You can not say your a Licensed Engineer in 27 states if you are not
personally licensed in each state.

That would be in those states which actually have a license procedure
for being an engineer - which are few.

Later,

Tom

As far as I know, every state has a requirement that you have your P.E. to
be able to call yourself a "licensed engineer", "professional engineer"
"consulting engineer", or offer engineering services to the public.