(Jamce1) wrote in message ...
Subject: OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
From: "Calif Bill"
Date: 8/9/03 10:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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If you are going to clip, at least leave the attributes to the correct
person. Harry is full of crap, but my reply was not to him. I was replying
to the one who said I was full of ****. My school had great standards for
Engineering students. Now the liberal arts side was a lot of flaky.
Protest the president of the School, Dr. Hyakawa for requiring proper speech
and manners. And I only attack a few dummy's. And Asskisser is a super
dummy! And to insecurity, I was and still am a GREAT ENGINEER.
Semi-retired, looking at starting a new career of General Contractor. And I
would never accept a PE as dumb as Asskisser for any of my jobs that
required a PE signoff. Too much liability.
bill

why dont you just take the test yourself?

chris

He's not open minded enough to learn the required course work to pass.
I have current PE licenses in four states, have a great engineering
job, and he calls ME dumb!!

He's not open minded enough to learn the required course work to pass.
I have current PE licenses in four states, have a great engineering
job, and he calls ME dumb!!

Asslicker you are caught in yet another lie.

You have previously stated you were licensed in 27 states.
You are a lying sack of ****.

http://tinyurl.com/jool

"Jamce1" wrote in message
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hell, i
would let NYOB work on my teeth if he turned out to be competent, and
there was
no breathing alternative.

Thanks, chris. I might even be inclined to work on *your* teeth if I had no
alternative as well. Of course, healthcare providers can't refuse treating
patients based on race, sex, religion, color, national origin, age or
disability. I'm not sure how the courts would handle refusing treatment
based on political affiliation, however. There *is* a case where a dentist
lost his license (in one of the New England states) for refusing to see a
homosexual patient. The State licensure board revoked his license for
"unprofessional" behavior...behavior that had more to do with the *way* he
dealt with the patient...not as much for just refusing treatment. They seem
to have intentionally left the ruling rather ambiguous.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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That would be "its engineering students," dummy, not "their engineer"
students. even "her engineering students" would be appropriate.

Don't you capitalize the first word of a new sentence?

Harry,
Why don't you list the names of the schools you attended? You've bashed me
in the past about not posting my real name, but I've provided every other
factual detail people have asked me for. What's the big deal in posting the
name of a University?



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bill Cole wrote:
ROFLMAO, If that is the best you can do, I guess your school really did
have such low standards they did not believe they should not expect
engineering students to have a basic command of the English Language.

You don't read very well, do you. I never said the school had no
expectations of engineering students, I said the students made the
statement about themselves, *as a joke on them.*



I
guess that must be part of the reason for your inferiority complex, you
view
education as important, but you did not have the grades or intelligence
to
be admitted to a school with high standards.

Really? I have B.A. degree from a fairly large university in the Midwest
and an M.A. degree from an Ivy League university in New England.



Has your alma mater admissions standards increased it's standards since
you
graduated?

That would be "its" standards, yahoo, not "it's" standards. "It's" is
the contraction for it is. "Its" is the possessive.


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And I like to do Crown Moulding and upgrades to homes and
condos.
Bill


Practicing coping without a P.E license?

Wait till asskisser hears about this!

Idiot reply. I said you can't legally practice engineering without a
license. Prove me wrong.

OFTEN ASKED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS COVERING ENGINEERING PRACTICE
Q. Do I need a license to practice engineering is a corporation such as
Boeing?

A. No. There is an Industrial Exemption that allows engineers to work
without a license with the assumption that the Corporation has a
licensed
engineer responsible for all engineering done in the name of the firm.

Q. Can I legally do engineering work without a license in a firm that
does
not have a licensed engineer?

A. Yes. But, your work will not be accepted by any government agency
that
requires that a licensed engineer stamp all documents.

Here is the reference:

http://www.pseconline.org/Registration/

And that is pretty typical of most states.

You can NOT call yourself an engineer, have "engineer" in the name of
your company, etc. unless you are licensed to practice engineering in
that particular state, and like you've said, most states are typical.

Ok, so here is a question for you.

Let's say I have an engineering degree (M.E), Masters - Applied
Materials Science and a PhD in Mathematics - I cannot be an
engineer unless I pass some sort of license and/or professional
practicum governed by either the state or peer review?

Or let's take this case - I graduate from MIT as a ME, I am hired
as an ME, I work as for the company as an ME and I cannot
call myself an ME unless the state or professional organization
recognizes me as such?

The key to your example, is that the FIRM needs to have a licensed
engineer on staff. The rest, are designers. If you take the whole
picture into context, it changes. If you take just the parts that
you've snipped, then there would never be a need for anybody to be a
licensed professional engineer.

I recognize the need for professional engineers - my argument is
with the term engineer. One cannot be something unless one is
something. My argument is that one can be an engineer even if it
is at a junior or precept level. To wit: If I give a design project to
a junior engineer and I observe, review and approve his resulting
efforts, is that junior engineer not an engineer?

Later,

Tom

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
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So why do you think you have this inferiority complex?

Harry doesn't have an inferiority complex. If anything, it's a
*superiority* complex...a very common trait of the Narcissist.

"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Rural Knight" wrote in message
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OFTEN ASKED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS COVERING ENGINEERING PRACTICE
Q. Do I need a license to practice engineering is a corporation such as
Boeing?

A. No. There is an Industrial Exemption that allows engineers to work
without a license with the assumption that the Corporation has a
licensed
engineer responsible for all engineering done in the name of the firm.

Q. Can I legally do engineering work without a license in a firm that
does
not have a licensed engineer?

A. Yes. But, your work will not be accepted by any government agency
that
requires that a licensed engineer stamp all documents.

Here is the reference:

http://www.pseconline.org/Registration/

And that is pretty typical of most states.

You forgot one very important part of the very page that you seem to
have cut and pasted at will to make an arguement:

PRACTICING ENGINEERING IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AND ALL OTHER STATES
IN THE USA
To advertise and offer to practice engineering in all of the states in
the USA requires having an engineering license. To offer to practice
and then accept engineering jobs is against the law punishable as a
misdemeanor

It was not intentional by any stretch and I'm not arguing against you.
In fact, I thought to include it as it actually did bolster your argument,
but I didn't because I wasn't sure if that is just their rules and regs
or not.

I wonder if you can provide me with the Federal statute that governs
whether one can or can not call themselves "engineers".

I would appreciate that reference.

Later,

Tom

Bill Cole wrote:

If he really had a superiority complex, don't you believe it would be below
him to have to tell everyone how great he is? I have always noticed that
those who "name drop" do so because they are insecure, but you might be
right, he might be a Narcissist who has no friends, so he has to come in
here to tell us how superior he is.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message
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So why do you think you have this inferiority complex?

Harry doesn't have an inferiority complex. If anything, it's a
*superiority* complex...a very common trait of the Narcissist.





You two ought to get together and breed. You could produce an entire
species of no-neck FLEEGs.



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NOYB wrote:

Harry,
Why don't you list the names of the schools you attended? You've bashed me
in the past about not posting my real name, but I've provided every other
factual detail people have asked me for. What's the big deal in posting the
name of a University?

I have, and more than once.





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