A good post Chuck but in most cases, around here you're talking to a dial
tone.

Takes about 5 minutes to type something like that out. I write and type
quickly.

You're right. It's like walking past a burning building and noticing a 5
gallon bucket of water sitting on the sidewalk. You pick up the water and toss
it on the fire, knowing full well the inferno is out of control and the water
won't really do much good. It just seems like the logical thing to do when
something's burning. :-)

On 06 Aug 2003 22:30:14 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

You're right. It's like walking past a burning building and noticing a 5
gallon bucket of water sitting on the sidewalk. You pick up the water and toss
it on the fire, knowing full well the inferno is out of control and the water
won't really do much good. It just seems like the logical thing to do when
something's burning. :-)

Ahhh, but Gould, that momentary splash of water is so refreshing to
the liberals who happen to be trapped in the burning building.

bb

"bb" wrote in message
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On 06 Aug 2003 22:30:14 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

You're right. It's like walking past a burning building and noticing a 5
gallon bucket of water sitting on the sidewalk. You pick up the water and
toss
it on the fire, knowing full well the inferno is out of control and the
water
won't really do much good. It just seems like the logical thing to do
when
something's burning. :-)

Ahhh, but Gould, that momentary splash of water is so refreshing to
the liberals who happen to be trapped in the burning building.

bb

I think we're in a long line hefting buckets from the nearest spigot,
knowing our efforts will do little to affect the fire. Some of us think (I
think Mark Browne may have offered this angle) that we just let the building
burn to the ground so, when it's a total loss, people may come to understand
the building should be a whole different structure.

I'm counting on the former Governor from Vermont to turn a big ole ****in'
hose on the works. It'd be awfully nice to see Karl Rove and his band of
hooligans soaked to the bone.

jps

jps wrote:

"bb" wrote in message
...
On 06 Aug 2003 22:30:14 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

You're right. It's like walking past a burning building and noticing a 5
gallon bucket of water sitting on the sidewalk. You pick up the water and
toss
it on the fire, knowing full well the inferno is out of control and the
water
won't really do much good. It just seems like the logical thing to do
when
something's burning. :-)

Ahhh, but Gould, that momentary splash of water is so refreshing to
the liberals who happen to be trapped in the burning building.

bb

I think we're in a long line hefting buckets from the nearest spigot,
knowing our efforts will do little to affect the fire. Some of us think (I
think Mark Browne may have offered this angle) that we just let the building
burn to the ground so, when it's a total loss, people may come to understand
the building should be a whole different structure.

I'm counting on the former Governor from Vermont to turn a big ole ****in'
hose on the works. It'd be awfully nice to see Karl Rove and his band of
hooligans soaked to the bone.


Dean doesn't stand a chance. He's far too liberal. And as much as you
might not want to admit it, most Americans are not happy with the
thought of liberals and their "big government" policies.

Dave

Dean doesn't stand a chance. He's far too liberal. And as much as you
might not want to admit it, most Americans are not happy with the
thought of liberals and their "big government" policies.

Dave

???????

If we were counting Americans (as in "most") and not electoral votes, your side
narrowly lost the last presidential election. Trying to be objective, it's till
hard to see how you righties have done much to endear yourselves to the
populace in the last couple of years. Based on the drop of the Prez. approval
rating from almost 90% to down around 50, it looks like momentum ain't working
for you, either. :-)

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Dean doesn't stand a chance. He's far too liberal. And as much as you
might not want to admit it, most Americans are not happy with the
thought of liberals and their "big government" policies.

Dave

???????

If we were counting Americans (as in "most") and not electoral votes, your side
narrowly lost the last presidential election. Trying to be objective, it's till
hard to see how you righties have done much to endear yourselves to the
populace in the last couple of years. Based on the drop of the Prez. approval
rating from almost 90% to down around 50, it looks like momentum ain't working
for you, either. :-)



Look again Chuck. His approval rating in now 58%, up from 54%.

Gould 0738 wrote:

Dean doesn't stand a chance. He's far too liberal. And as much as you
might not want to admit it, most Americans are not happy with the
thought of liberals and their "big government" policies.

Dave

???????

If we were counting Americans (as in "most") and not electoral votes, your side
narrowly lost the last presidential election. Trying to be objective, it's till
hard to see how you righties have done much to endear yourselves to the
populace in the last couple of years. Based on the drop of the Prez. approval
rating from almost 90% to down around 50, it looks like momentum ain't working
for you, either. :-)

Presidential approval rating are all a matter of perception. People base
their perception on what they're fed by biased media sources. People
also have short attention spans, and cannot stomach a long term
comittment (no wonder the divorce rates are so high). Reality dictates
that most difficult situations are not so easy, nor quick, to resolve.

It's still bettrer to allow people the righ to choose their path, than
have the government intervene at every turn. Cradle to grave social
services do little more than breed dependance (and democratic votes).
You learn a better life lesson, when "tough love" is applied. It also
sends the wrong message, when those who achieve are demonized for their
accomplishments and made to prop up those who refuse to.

Dave

jps wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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Dean doesn't stand a chance. He's far too liberal. And as much as you
might not want to admit it, most Americans are not happy with the
thought of liberals and their "big government" policies.

Dave

Most Americans consider themselves social liberals and fiscal conservatives.
Dean is a social liberal and a fiscal conservative, the exact opposite of
George Bush.

I don't know about that. My findings indicate that most mainstream
Americans are fiscally conservative and socially moderate.

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...

Dean doesn't stand a chance. He's far too liberal. And as much as you
might not want to admit it, most Americans are not happy with the
thought of liberals and their "big government" policies.

Dave

Most Americans consider themselves social liberals and fiscal
conservatives.
Dean is a social liberal and a fiscal conservative, the exact opposite
of
George Bush.

I don't know about that. My findings indicate that most mainstream
Americans are fiscally conservative and socially moderate.

Dave


Your personal sampling of one?

Did you ever ask your wife the "do you think the government should have the
right to command you to take a pregnancy to term?"

If she said no, would you consider her a social liberal?