Harry,

I had no idea U of Kansas had a Rugby Team in the last 60's. It would be
interesting to see what their record was during that time.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Went to watch UCONN vs Dartmouth rugby game tonight.

Never been to a rugby game before. Pretty interesting game what with
all the smashing, tackling, kicking, chucking the ball and gymnastics.

Had a good time.


Rugby was my college sport. I tried out for football but after one day of
practice, decided my life would be longer if I did something else.
Rugby was rough, but there was no deliberate rough stuff back when I
played. If a ref saw you trying to hurt another player, you were through
for the season. Probably different today.

--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.

On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:49:43 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Harry,

I had no idea U of Kansas had a Rugby Team in the last 60's. It would be
interesting to see what their record was during that time.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Went to watch UCONN vs Dartmouth rugby game tonight.

Never been to a rugby game before. Pretty interesting game what with
all the smashing, tackling, kicking, chucking the ball and gymnastics.

Had a good time.


Rugby was my college sport. I tried out for football but after one day of
practice, decided my life would be longer if I did something else.
Rugby was rough, but there was no deliberate rough stuff back when I
played. If a ref saw you trying to hurt another player, you were through
for the season. Probably different today.

--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.


I keep waiting for someone to have done something, been somewhere, or know
someone/thing that Harry hasn't already experienced.

I think the rugby story was a troll, just to get Harry to bite!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

JohnH,
I don't care what you have done or know, Harry can do it better. ; )


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:49:43 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Harry,

I had no idea U of Kansas had a Rugby Team in the last 60's. It would be
interesting to see what their record was during that time.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Went to watch UCONN vs Dartmouth rugby game tonight.

Never been to a rugby game before. Pretty interesting game what with
all the smashing, tackling, kicking, chucking the ball and gymnastics.

Had a good time.


Rugby was my college sport. I tried out for football but after one day
of
practice, decided my life would be longer if I did something else.
Rugby was rough, but there was no deliberate rough stuff back when I
played. If a ref saw you trying to hurt another player, you were through
for the season. Probably different today.

--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.


I keep waiting for someone to have done something, been somewhere, or know
someone/thing that Harry hasn't already experienced.

I think the rugby story was a troll, just to get Harry to bite!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

JohnH,

During the 60's there was only 2 Rugby teams between the Mississippi and the
Rockies'. The teams left a lot to be desired. "Those that recall the
encounter suggest that the quality of play left much to be desired."

I am sure it would be easy to check with the team to see if they know a
Harry Krause, but my guess is Harry asked them not to release any
information concerning his time as the star performer for the Rugby Team.


"Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote in message
news
JohnH,
I don't care what you have done or know, Harry can do it better. ; )


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:49:43 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Harry,

I had no idea U of Kansas had a Rugby Team in the last 60's. It would be
interesting to see what their record was during that time.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Went to watch UCONN vs Dartmouth rugby game tonight.

Never been to a rugby game before. Pretty interesting game what with
all the smashing, tackling, kicking, chucking the ball and gymnastics.

Had a good time.


Rugby was my college sport. I tried out for football but after one day
of
practice, decided my life would be longer if I did something else.
Rugby was rough, but there was no deliberate rough stuff back when I
played. If a ref saw you trying to hurt another player, you were
through
for the season. Probably different today.

--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.


I keep waiting for someone to have done something, been somewhere, or
know
someone/thing that Harry hasn't already experienced.

I think the rugby story was a troll, just to get Harry to bite!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Harry was probably the individual who introduced rugby to the midwest, besides
being the star player, of course.

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 09:06:20 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

JohnH,

During the 60's there was only 2 Rugby teams between the Mississippi and the
Rockies'. The teams left a lot to be desired. "Those that recall the
encounter suggest that the quality of play left much to be desired."

I am sure it would be easy to check with the team to see if they know a
Harry Krause, but my guess is Harry asked them not to release any
information concerning his time as the star performer for the Rugby Team.


"Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote in message
news
JohnH,
I don't care what you have done or know, Harry can do it better. ; )


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:49:43 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Harry,

I had no idea U of Kansas had a Rugby Team in the last 60's. It would be
interesting to see what their record was during that time.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Went to watch UCONN vs Dartmouth rugby game tonight.

Never been to a rugby game before. Pretty interesting game what with
all the smashing, tackling, kicking, chucking the ball and gymnastics.

Had a good time.


Rugby was my college sport. I tried out for football but after one day
of
practice, decided my life would be longer if I did something else.
Rugby was rough, but there was no deliberate rough stuff back when I
played. If a ref saw you trying to hurt another player, you were
through
for the season. Probably different today.

--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.


I keep waiting for someone to have done something, been somewhere, or
know
someone/thing that Harry hasn't already experienced.

I think the rugby story was a troll, just to get Harry to bite!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

JohnH,
If we don't say anything, Harry will probably accept credit for doing just
that. Don't tell anyone else, but the real person who introduced Rugby to
the Midwest was George Bunting.

There is a definite possibility that this was Harry's given name and Harry
changed his name to Harry Krause when he became a professional writer.


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
Harry was probably the individual who introduced rugby to the midwest,
besides
being the star player, of course.

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 09:06:20 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

JohnH,

During the 60's there was only 2 Rugby teams between the Mississippi and
the
Rockies'. The teams left a lot to be desired. "Those that recall the
encounter suggest that the quality of play left much to be desired."

I am sure it would be easy to check with the team to see if they know a
Harry Krause, but my guess is Harry asked them not to release any
information concerning his time as the star performer for the Rugby Team.


"Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote in message
news
JohnH,
I don't care what you have done or know, Harry can do it better. ; )


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:49:43 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Harry,

I had no idea U of Kansas had a Rugby Team in the last 60's. It would
be
interesting to see what their record was during that time.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Went to watch UCONN vs Dartmouth rugby game tonight.

Never been to a rugby game before. Pretty interesting game what
with
all the smashing, tackling, kicking, chucking the ball and
gymnastics.

Had a good time.


Rugby was my college sport. I tried out for football but after one
day
of
practice, decided my life would be longer if I did something else.
Rugby was rough, but there was no deliberate rough stuff back when I
played. If a ref saw you trying to hurt another player, you were
through
for the season. Probably different today.

--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.


I keep waiting for someone to have done something, been somewhere, or
know
someone/thing that Harry hasn't already experienced.

I think the rugby story was a troll, just to get Harry to bite!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

The neighbors kid plays rugby. Both at the local high school and now at
college. I think he plays rugby, because you have an excuse to drink copius
amounts of beer.

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:49:43 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Harry,

I had no idea U of Kansas had a Rugby Team in the last 60's. It would be
interesting to see what their record was during that time.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Went to watch UCONN vs Dartmouth rugby game tonight.

Never been to a rugby game before. Pretty interesting game what with
all the smashing, tackling, kicking, chucking the ball and gymnastics.

Had a good time.


Rugby was my college sport. I tried out for football but after one day
of
practice, decided my life would be longer if I did something else.
Rugby was rough, but there was no deliberate rough stuff back when I
played. If a ref saw you trying to hurt another player, you were through
for the season. Probably different today.

--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.


I keep waiting for someone to have done something, been somewhere, or know
someone/thing that Harry hasn't already experienced.

I think the rugby story was a troll, just to get Harry to bite!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Krause,

Your memory of Midwest Rugby is different than the Univ. of Kansas JayHawk
Rugby Club's memory of Midwest Rugby.

from: http://www.jayhawkrugby.com/About.htm

" Rugby did not exist anywhere between the Mississippi River and the
Rocky Mountains until 1964. In the fall of that year, George Bunting
returned to study Law at the University of Kansas after having completed his
undergraduate degree at Dartmouth.
George's first experience with Rugby occurred during his years of
exile on the East Coast and he resolved to introduce the sport to the
Jayhawks. To this end he advertised in the campus newspaper, "The Daily
Kansan", and, in response, over twenty people gathered in a room that he had
reserved in the Memorial Union Building. This was the first meeting of the
Club.

Concurrent with the activities in Lawrence, Gerry Seymore, a British
Expatriate, was assisting in the founding of the Kansas City RFC. So it was,
there being but two teams in the whole region, that the Jayhawks and the
KCRFC assembled in Kansas City for the match that initiated Rugby in the
Heart of America. Those that recall the encounter suggest that the quality
of play left much to be desired.

Ten Years later, Allen Chapman, a Cornwall expatriate, arrived in
Lawrence and formalized the Club's operations. His lofty plans included
constitutional organization, international Rugby tours and, ultimately, a
clubhouse and playing fields.

Since that first season, the Kansas Jayhawks have slowly but surely
matured. The KJRFC has now established for itself a permanent place among
the array of local sports. Furthermore, the KJRFC is proud of the fact that
it had joined an elite group of clubs in the United States to own and
operate its own Rugby fields which we endearingly call Westwick. The
Westwick Rugby & Athletic Complex, a 55 acre sports complex in located south
of Lawrence in the scenic Wakarusa River Valley. We have been proud to host
numerous clubs from across the country, and the world, at Westwick.

The KJRFC fields 4 different sides:


a.. Men's Club
b.. Men's Collegiate
c.. Women's Collegiate
d.. Old Boy's (Greyhawks)

1964

Rugby was founded by George Bunting

1967
. Heart of America Rugby Football Union founded

1976
. Constitution adopted (author - Allen Chapman)
. Organizational, touring and hosting issues become the primary focus
of rugby club's goals

1977
. England Tour

1979
. Scotland/Ireland Tour "


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
The neighbors kid plays rugby. Both at the local high school and now at
college. I think he plays rugby, because you have an excuse to drink
copius amounts of beer.

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:49:43 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Harry,

I had no idea U of Kansas had a Rugby Team in the last 60's. It would
be
interesting to see what their record was during that time.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Went to watch UCONN vs Dartmouth rugby game tonight.

Never been to a rugby game before. Pretty interesting game what with
all the smashing, tackling, kicking, chucking the ball and
gymnastics.

Had a good time.

Rugby was my college sport. I tried out for football but after one day
of
practice, decided my life would be longer if I did something else.
Rugby was rough, but there was no deliberate rough stuff back when I
played. If a ref saw you trying to hurt another player, you were
through
for the season. Probably different today.

--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.
I keep waiting for someone to have done something, been somewhere, or
know
someone/thing that Harry hasn't already experienced.

I think the rugby story was a troll, just to get Harry to bite!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




Rugby was a fairly popular sport out in the part of the midwest where I
attended college. It got its start out there near the beginning of the
20th Century, when several colleges and universities considered it as a
replacement for college football, which even in the early 1900s was
suffering from recruiting scandals. In the 1960s, we had intercollegiate
competition and there were also dozens of "rugby clubs" with their own
rivalries. I played hs football, but once I got into rugby, I considered
it a lot more fun than football, at least for the players.

The best rugby road trips were always to Columbia, Missouri, home of
Mizzou, Stephens, and Christian College for Women. By far the most and
best looking women in a five state area.



--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.

If Harry says he introduced rugby to the midwest in the early 1900's, so be it.
I can't believe you actually think facts are persuasive.


On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 13:33:36 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Krause,

Your memory of Midwest Rugby is different than the Univ. of Kansas JayHawk
Rugby Club's memory of Midwest Rugby.

from: http://www.jayhawkrugby.com/About.htm

" Rugby did not exist anywhere between the Mississippi River and the
Rocky Mountains until 1964. In the fall of that year, George Bunting
returned to study Law at the University of Kansas after having completed his
undergraduate degree at Dartmouth.
George's first experience with Rugby occurred during his years of
exile on the East Coast and he resolved to introduce the sport to the
Jayhawks. To this end he advertised in the campus newspaper, "The Daily
Kansan", and, in response, over twenty people gathered in a room that he had
reserved in the Memorial Union Building. This was the first meeting of the
Club.

Concurrent with the activities in Lawrence, Gerry Seymore, a British
Expatriate, was assisting in the founding of the Kansas City RFC. So it was,
there being but two teams in the whole region, that the Jayhawks and the
KCRFC assembled in Kansas City for the match that initiated Rugby in the
Heart of America. Those that recall the encounter suggest that the quality
of play left much to be desired.

Ten Years later, Allen Chapman, a Cornwall expatriate, arrived in
Lawrence and formalized the Club's operations. His lofty plans included
constitutional organization, international Rugby tours and, ultimately, a
clubhouse and playing fields.

Since that first season, the Kansas Jayhawks have slowly but surely
matured. The KJRFC has now established for itself a permanent place among
the array of local sports. Furthermore, the KJRFC is proud of the fact that
it had joined an elite group of clubs in the United States to own and
operate its own Rugby fields which we endearingly call Westwick. The
Westwick Rugby & Athletic Complex, a 55 acre sports complex in located south
of Lawrence in the scenic Wakarusa River Valley. We have been proud to host
numerous clubs from across the country, and the world, at Westwick.

The KJRFC fields 4 different sides:


a.. Men's Club
b.. Men's Collegiate
c.. Women's Collegiate
d.. Old Boy's (Greyhawks)

1964

Rugby was founded by George Bunting

1967
. Heart of America Rugby Football Union founded

1976
. Constitution adopted (author - Allen Chapman)
. Organizational, touring and hosting issues become the primary focus
of rugby club's goals

1977
. England Tour

1979
. Scotland/Ireland Tour "


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
The neighbors kid plays rugby. Both at the local high school and now at
college. I think he plays rugby, because you have an excuse to drink
copius amounts of beer.

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:49:43 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Harry,

I had no idea U of Kansas had a Rugby Team in the last 60's. It would
be
interesting to see what their record was during that time.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Went to watch UCONN vs Dartmouth rugby game tonight.

Never been to a rugby game before. Pretty interesting game what with
all the smashing, tackling, kicking, chucking the ball and
gymnastics.

Had a good time.

Rugby was my college sport. I tried out for football but after one day
of
practice, decided my life would be longer if I did something else.
Rugby was rough, but there was no deliberate rough stuff back when I
played. If a ref saw you trying to hurt another player, you were
through
for the season. Probably different today.

--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.
I keep waiting for someone to have done something, been somewhere, or
know
someone/thing that Harry hasn't already experienced.

I think the rugby story was a troll, just to get Harry to bite!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




Rugby was a fairly popular sport out in the part of the midwest where I
attended college. It got its start out there near the beginning of the
20th Century, when several colleges and universities considered it as a
replacement for college football, which even in the early 1900s was
suffering from recruiting scandals. In the 1960s, we had intercollegiate
competition and there were also dozens of "rugby clubs" with their own
rivalries. I played hs football, but once I got into rugby, I considered
it a lot more fun than football, at least for the players.

The best rugby road trips were always to Columbia, Missouri, home of
Mizzou, Stephens, and Christian College for Women. By far the most and
best looking women in a five state area.



--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.



--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I understand, I am waiting for email from the JayHawks concerning their team
roster during the 60's. I am sure they will set me straight concerning
Harry and the JayHawks.

They have an alumni site for the Rugby Players Alumni. They are looking to
match up the teams with their current info. I am sure they would like to
hear from Harry.


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
If Harry says he introduced rugby to the midwest in the early 1900's, so
be it.
I can't believe you actually think facts are persuasive.


On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 13:33:36 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Krause,

Your memory of Midwest Rugby is different than the Univ. of Kansas JayHawk
Rugby Club's memory of Midwest Rugby.

from: http://www.jayhawkrugby.com/About.htm

" Rugby did not exist anywhere between the Mississippi River and the
Rocky Mountains until 1964. In the fall of that year, George Bunting
returned to study Law at the University of Kansas after having completed
his
undergraduate degree at Dartmouth.
George's first experience with Rugby occurred during his years of
exile on the East Coast and he resolved to introduce the sport to the
Jayhawks. To this end he advertised in the campus newspaper, "The Daily
Kansan", and, in response, over twenty people gathered in a room that he
had
reserved in the Memorial Union Building. This was the first meeting of the
Club.

Concurrent with the activities in Lawrence, Gerry Seymore, a British
Expatriate, was assisting in the founding of the Kansas City RFC. So it
was,
there being but two teams in the whole region, that the Jayhawks and the
KCRFC assembled in Kansas City for the match that initiated Rugby in the
Heart of America. Those that recall the encounter suggest that the quality
of play left much to be desired.

Ten Years later, Allen Chapman, a Cornwall expatriate, arrived in
Lawrence and formalized the Club's operations. His lofty plans included
constitutional organization, international Rugby tours and, ultimately, a
clubhouse and playing fields.

Since that first season, the Kansas Jayhawks have slowly but surely
matured. The KJRFC has now established for itself a permanent place among
the array of local sports. Furthermore, the KJRFC is proud of the fact
that
it had joined an elite group of clubs in the United States to own and
operate its own Rugby fields which we endearingly call Westwick. The
Westwick Rugby & Athletic Complex, a 55 acre sports complex in located
south
of Lawrence in the scenic Wakarusa River Valley. We have been proud to
host
numerous clubs from across the country, and the world, at Westwick.

The KJRFC fields 4 different sides:


a.. Men's Club
b.. Men's Collegiate
c.. Women's Collegiate
d.. Old Boy's (Greyhawks)

1964

Rugby was founded by George Bunting

1967
. Heart of America Rugby Football Union founded

1976
. Constitution adopted (author - Allen Chapman)
. Organizational, touring and hosting issues become the primary
focus
of rugby club's goals

1977
. England Tour

1979
. Scotland/Ireland Tour "


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
The neighbors kid plays rugby. Both at the local high school and now
at
college. I think he plays rugby, because you have an excuse to drink
copius amounts of beer.

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:49:43 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote:

Harry,

I had no idea U of Kansas had a Rugby Team in the last 60's. It
would
be
interesting to see what their record was during that time.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Went to watch UCONN vs Dartmouth rugby game tonight.

Never been to a rugby game before. Pretty interesting game what
with
all the smashing, tackling, kicking, chucking the ball and
gymnastics.

Had a good time.

Rugby was my college sport. I tried out for football but after one
day
of
practice, decided my life would be longer if I did something else.
Rugby was rough, but there was no deliberate rough stuff back when I
played. If a ref saw you trying to hurt another player, you were
through
for the season. Probably different today.

--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies.
Misplaced
priorities.
I keep waiting for someone to have done something, been somewhere, or
know
someone/thing that Harry hasn't already experienced.

I think the rugby story was a troll, just to get Harry to bite!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




Rugby was a fairly popular sport out in the part of the midwest where I
attended college. It got its start out there near the beginning of the
20th Century, when several colleges and universities considered it as a
replacement for college football, which even in the early 1900s was
suffering from recruiting scandals. In the 1960s, we had intercollegiate
competition and there were also dozens of "rugby clubs" with their own
rivalries. I played hs football, but once I got into rugby, I considered
it a lot more fun than football, at least for the players.

The best rugby road trips were always to Columbia, Missouri, home of
Mizzou, Stephens, and Christian College for Women. By far the most and
best looking women in a five state area.



--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.



--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."