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[email protected] October 10th 05 04:59 AM

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This is fun;

I'm working on a filler piece this evening that recounts the history of
the local Bayliner dealer. (The firm just celebrated its 50th
anniversary, although it did not sell Bayliner for some years after it
was founded).

I've got three brochure photos for some really old Bayliner models.
A Mutiny, a Discovery, and a Cornet. These boats are 16, 17 and 19 feet
in length.

Back in the day, models posing in some boat brochure photos were
dressed in business suits! The skipper is dressed in a shirt, jacket,
tie, the whole works. In one photo of the suit and tie boater, his
female passenger is dressed in a business dress and sports a "bee hive"
hairdo. In another photo, two women are out in a boat, and one of them
is wearing a very modest two-piece bathing suit. It was probably
considered "risque" in its era.


jps October 10th 05 05:32 AM

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In article .com,
says...
This is fun;

I'm working on a filler piece this evening that recounts the history of
the local Bayliner dealer. (The firm just celebrated its 50th
anniversary, although it did not sell Bayliner for some years after it
was founded).

I've got three brochure photos for some really old Bayliner models.
A Mutiny, a Discovery, and a Cornet. These boats are 16, 17 and 19 feet
in length.

Back in the day, models posing in some boat brochure photos were
dressed in business suits! The skipper is dressed in a shirt, jacket,
tie, the whole works. In one photo of the suit and tie boater, his
female passenger is dressed in a business dress and sports a "bee hive"
hairdo. In another photo, two women are out in a boat, and one of them
is wearing a very modest two-piece bathing suit. It was probably
considered "risque" in its era.


Beehives were cool, so were mutton chops.

If you're marketing a go-fast boat these days, two endowed models in
bathing suits is mandatory fare.

jps

Bryan October 10th 05 06:42 AM

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"jps" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
says...
This is fun;

I'm working on a filler piece this evening that recounts the history of
the local Bayliner dealer. (The firm just celebrated its 50th
anniversary, although it did not sell Bayliner for some years after it
was founded).

I've got three brochure photos for some really old Bayliner models.
A Mutiny, a Discovery, and a Cornet. These boats are 16, 17 and 19 feet
in length.

Back in the day, models posing in some boat brochure photos were
dressed in business suits! The skipper is dressed in a shirt, jacket,
tie, the whole works. In one photo of the suit and tie boater, his
female passenger is dressed in a business dress and sports a "bee hive"
hairdo. In another photo, two women are out in a boat, and one of them
is wearing a very modest two-piece bathing suit. It was probably
considered "risque" in its era.


Beehives were cool, so were mutton chops.

If you're marketing a go-fast boat these days, two endowed models in
bathing suits is mandatory fare.

jps


Today's models will have the mandatory enhanced personal flotation devices
....



Doug Kanter October 10th 05 06:23 PM

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wrote in message
oups.com...
This is fun;

I'm working on a filler piece this evening that recounts the history of
the local Bayliner dealer. (The firm just celebrated its 50th
anniversary, although it did not sell Bayliner for some years after it
was founded).

I've got three brochure photos for some really old Bayliner models.
A Mutiny, a Discovery, and a Cornet. These boats are 16, 17 and 19 feet
in length.

Back in the day, models posing in some boat brochure photos were
dressed in business suits! The skipper is dressed in a shirt, jacket,
tie, the whole works. In one photo of the suit and tie boater, his
female passenger is dressed in a business dress and sports a "bee hive"
hairdo. In another photo, two women are out in a boat, and one of them
is wearing a very modest two-piece bathing suit. It was probably
considered "risque" in its era.


The Chapman's book I had in the 1960s contained an entire section on proper
wardrobe for the yacht club. It specified uniforms for certain people. My
dad had a business acquaintance who docked his 75' toy in Sands Point, Long
Island. The guy was referred to as "admiral" by his chums at the club, and
certainly by the dock boys, of course. I asked my dad once if the guy had
been in the Navy. He said no, and the "admiral" thing was just an
affectation among the clubby types.

Un-friggin-believable.



Skipper October 10th 05 07:17 PM

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Harry Krause wrote:

The yacht clubby types tend to take their club rank seriously. It's
really kind of laughable.


My father's boatyard was almost next door to a snooty yacht club in the
same harbor. He joined because I wanted to race sailboats in the junior
program when I was a kid, but he refused to get involved in the
hierarchy. For fun, we went to social events at a blue collar boat club,
where no one was an "ossifer with a title."


Actually, the NG does have a snooty, holier than thou, commodore yachty
type participant. You might want to ask Commodore Chucky about it.

--
Skipper

Don White October 10th 05 09:28 PM

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Skipper wrote:

Actually, the NG does have a snooty, holier than thou, commodore yachty
type participant. You might want to ask Commodore Chucky about it.

--
Skipper


Would the 'real' Snipper please stand up.

[email protected] October 11th 05 12:01 AM

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Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

The yacht clubby types tend to take their club rank seriously. It's
really kind of laughable.


My father's boatyard was almost next door to a snooty yacht club in the
same harbor. He joined because I wanted to race sailboats in the junior
program when I was a kid, but he refused to get involved in the
hierarchy. For fun, we went to social events at a blue collar boat club,
where no one was an "ossifer with a title."


Actually, the NG does have a snooty, holier than thou, commodore yachty
type participant. You might want to ask Commodore Chucky about it.

--
Skipper


Aha. Psuedo now runs from his unsupportable claims that I am a "liar"
(offers no evidence of any type) simply to show up in this thread and
start a new line of personal attack. Do you ever tire of being a sick,
twisted, negative minded little butt barnacle, Psuedo?

I'd love to know upon what basis you characterize me as "Commodore
Chucky". I have never served in that capacity in any club. (Board
Chairman is a different office, attending to the business aspects
rather than the social aspects of the organization). I have not even
been a member of any yacht club for a few years. But then again, the
truth has never been an important element in your endless bowel
movement of personal attacks has it, Psuedo? How sad to end up in life
as a broken down, bitter, boatless old man with nothing to do but crank
out bitchy little insults to virtual strangers all around the world.
Man, that has got to be one depressing fate. Sorry for your loss (of
self respect), Psuedo.

The real Skipper appeared, for all intents and purposes, to be a member
of the KKK. He really launched some zingers about blacks and jews a
couple of times. I used to belong to a yacht club, but I've never
belonged to any organization that preached hatred and intolerance.
Given the choice between one and the other, I'd take the yacht club any
day.

GFYS. (Stands for: good for you, "skipper", of course).


PocoLoco October 11th 05 12:29 AM

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On 10 Oct 2005 16:01:30 -0700, wrote:


Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

The yacht clubby types tend to take their club rank seriously. It's
really kind of laughable.


My father's boatyard was almost next door to a snooty yacht club in the
same harbor. He joined because I wanted to race sailboats in the junior
program when I was a kid, but he refused to get involved in the
hierarchy. For fun, we went to social events at a blue collar boat club,
where no one was an "ossifer with a title."


Actually, the NG does have a snooty, holier than thou, commodore yachty
type participant. You might want to ask Commodore Chucky about it.

--
Skipper


Aha. Psuedo now runs from his unsupportable claims that I am a "liar"
(offers no evidence of any type) simply to show up in this thread and
start a new line of personal attack. Do you ever tire of being a sick,
twisted, negative minded little butt barnacle, Psuedo?

I'd love to know upon what basis you characterize me as "Commodore
Chucky". I have never served in that capacity in any club. (Board
Chairman is a different office, attending to the business aspects
rather than the social aspects of the organization). I have not even
been a member of any yacht club for a few years. But then again, the
truth has never been an important element in your endless bowel
movement of personal attacks has it, Psuedo? How sad to end up in life
as a broken down, bitter, boatless old man with nothing to do but crank
out bitchy little insults to virtual strangers all around the world.
Man, that has got to be one depressing fate. Sorry for your loss (of
self respect), Psuedo.

The real Skipper appeared, for all intents and purposes, to be a member
of the KKK. He really launched some zingers about blacks and jews a
couple of times. I used to belong to a yacht club, but I've never
belonged to any organization that preached hatred and intolerance.
Given the choice between one and the other, I'd take the yacht club any
day.

GFYS. (Stands for: good for you, "skipper", of course).


Sure does sound like you're talking to Harry! When Harry started his **** with
me, I got ****ed. Made an ass out of myself. I've since learned to laugh at his
foolishness and chalk it up to NPD.

You now seem to be having the same problems several in the group have had with
Krause. Pain in the butt, isn't it?

Filter him, 'cause it's sounding more and more like he's for real.

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

Starbuck's Words of Wisdom October 11th 05 01:02 AM

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Chuck,

Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go ballistic.
JimH should not have allowed your personal attacks on him to **** him off,
but it did. Maybe you owe him an apology, you know what they say about
Karma.

ps - This Skipper is Dave Mann from Derby Kansas. He is the person you
meet in person, it is not a Pseudo.


wrote in message
oups.com...

Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

The yacht clubby types tend to take their club rank seriously. It's
really kind of laughable.


My father's boatyard was almost next door to a snooty yacht club in the
same harbor. He joined because I wanted to race sailboats in the junior
program when I was a kid, but he refused to get involved in the
hierarchy. For fun, we went to social events at a blue collar boat
club,
where no one was an "ossifer with a title."


Actually, the NG does have a snooty, holier than thou, commodore yachty
type participant. You might want to ask Commodore Chucky about it.

--
Skipper


Aha. Psuedo now runs from his unsupportable claims that I am a "liar"
(offers no evidence of any type) simply to show up in this thread and
start a new line of personal attack. Do you ever tire of being a sick,
twisted, negative minded little butt barnacle, Psuedo?

I'd love to know upon what basis you characterize me as "Commodore
Chucky". I have never served in that capacity in any club. (Board
Chairman is a different office, attending to the business aspects
rather than the social aspects of the organization). I have not even
been a member of any yacht club for a few years. But then again, the
truth has never been an important element in your endless bowel
movement of personal attacks has it, Psuedo? How sad to end up in life
as a broken down, bitter, boatless old man with nothing to do but crank
out bitchy little insults to virtual strangers all around the world.
Man, that has got to be one depressing fate. Sorry for your loss (of
self respect), Psuedo.

The real Skipper appeared, for all intents and purposes, to be a member
of the KKK. He really launched some zingers about blacks and jews a
couple of times. I used to belong to a yacht club, but I've never
belonged to any organization that preached hatred and intolerance.
Given the choice between one and the other, I'd take the yacht club any
day.

GFYS. (Stands for: good for you, "skipper", of course).




[email protected] October 11th 05 01:42 AM

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Starbuck's Words of Wisdom wrote:
Chuck,

Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go ballistic.


I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.
Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.

You ain't seen "ballistic", Starbucks. I'm currently merely annoyed
with this little butt barnacle- but if he insists on stalking me he's
going to get an offal surprise sooner rather than later.


JimH should not have allowed your personal attacks on him to **** him off,
but it did.


No, he should not. JimH should have thicker skin. He who wields a flame
thrower is well advised to wear an asbestos suit and keep a sharp eye
peeled for blowback. JimH is far superior to Psuedo, however, as JimH
only attempts to make a personal issue out of posts that have actually
appeared in the NG. Psuedo, OTOH, dreams up some crap supposedly from
five years ago and supposedly from a private conversation and
challenges people to defend/explain statements that were never made in
the first place. JimH often chooses a very narrow and unusual
perspective from which to evaluate a post, but it would be very much
unlike JimH to make up crap out of thin air and then demand somebody
account for it. When JimH calls me a liar, as he has done on a number
of ocassions, he always itemizes his bill and pulls no punches as to
the nature of the "lie" he is alleging.

The major similarity between Psuedo and JimH is that its a dislike for
my political philosophy that fosters the vast majority of their
personal remarks.
JimH has never met me, and Psuedo Skipper obviously doesn't know me.

Maybe you owe him an apology, you know what they say about
Karma.


I publicly apologized for voicing my suspicion that the extremely
weird, once-in-a-lifetime posting style used by "Skipper" at the
opening of his "Open Letter" attack thread and the use of the same very
unsual style and phrasing in an attack post by JimH likely indicated
common authorship. I do not apologize for suspecting the common
authorship. You, yourself, said you suspected a common authorship until
some computer-related data convinced you otherwise.



ps - This Skipper is Dave Mann from Derby Kansas. He is the person you
meet in person, it is not a Pseudo.


I am beginning to see some similarity between the current version of
Skipper and the very worst examples of Cave Mann when he was most out
of control in previous years. What a shame if it's Dave, time has not
been kind to him at all.

If it's really Dave, the Psuedo Skipper title still fits him very well.
If he buys another boat, we'll surely begin hearing tales about how his
new driveway ornament is the best "purpose built" craft on the planet,
and he'll be insisting that everybody else drag their boats down to
Mexico where he will demonstrate proper technique for riding out
hurricane force winds in a little runabout. Maybe he'll invite his
Wilson cousins, the Boys can sit on the Beach.


Starbuckaroo October 11th 05 02:20 AM

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Chuck,
For what it is worth, nothing Skipper says will change anyone's impression
of your integrity. I wouldn't let it bother you.


wrote in message
oups.com...

Starbuck's Words of Wisdom wrote:
Chuck,

Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go
ballistic.


I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.
Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.

You ain't seen "ballistic", Starbucks. I'm currently merely annoyed
with this little butt barnacle- but if he insists on stalking me he's
going to get an offal surprise sooner rather than later.


JimH should not have allowed your personal attacks on him to **** him
off,
but it did.


No, he should not. JimH should have thicker skin. He who wields a flame
thrower is well advised to wear an asbestos suit and keep a sharp eye
peeled for blowback. JimH is far superior to Psuedo, however, as JimH
only attempts to make a personal issue out of posts that have actually
appeared in the NG. Psuedo, OTOH, dreams up some crap supposedly from
five years ago and supposedly from a private conversation and
challenges people to defend/explain statements that were never made in
the first place. JimH often chooses a very narrow and unusual
perspective from which to evaluate a post, but it would be very much
unlike JimH to make up crap out of thin air and then demand somebody
account for it. When JimH calls me a liar, as he has done on a number
of ocassions, he always itemizes his bill and pulls no punches as to
the nature of the "lie" he is alleging.

The major similarity between Psuedo and JimH is that its a dislike for
my political philosophy that fosters the vast majority of their
personal remarks.
JimH has never met me, and Psuedo Skipper obviously doesn't know me.

Maybe you owe him an apology, you know what they say about
Karma.


I publicly apologized for voicing my suspicion that the extremely
weird, once-in-a-lifetime posting style used by "Skipper" at the
opening of his "Open Letter" attack thread and the use of the same very
unsual style and phrasing in an attack post by JimH likely indicated
common authorship. I do not apologize for suspecting the common
authorship. You, yourself, said you suspected a common authorship until
some computer-related data convinced you otherwise.



ps - This Skipper is Dave Mann from Derby Kansas. He is the person you
meet in person, it is not a Pseudo.


I am beginning to see some similarity between the current version of
Skipper and the very worst examples of Cave Mann when he was most out
of control in previous years. What a shame if it's Dave, time has not
been kind to him at all.

If it's really Dave, the Psuedo Skipper title still fits him very well.
If he buys another boat, we'll surely begin hearing tales about how his
new driveway ornament is the best "purpose built" craft on the planet,
and he'll be insisting that everybody else drag their boats down to
Mexico where he will demonstrate proper technique for riding out
hurricane force winds in a little runabout. Maybe he'll invite his
Wilson cousins, the Boys can sit on the Beach.




Starbuckaroo October 11th 05 02:22 AM

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Harry,
Why are you getting in the middle of Chuck's and my discussion? Are you
playing Chuck? Are you stirring the pot?
What are you doing in this thread?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
As you can see, Chuckster, all Starbucks-Smithers really wants to do

here is stir the pot and keep it roiling, if he can. Else, why would he
try to get in the middle of so many "discussions," and do whatever is
within his limited means to encourage argument on as many sides as
possible.

He's playing you.




Bert Robbins October 11th 05 03:28 AM

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wrote in message
oups.com...

Starbuck's Words of Wisdom wrote:
Chuck,

Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go
ballistic.


I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.


Now you are going to try and play the poor innocent me card. It won't work.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.
Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.


Sounds like you are describing your buddy Harry and tag along Don.

You ain't seen "ballistic", Starbucks. I'm currently merely annoyed
with this little butt barnacle- but if he insists on stalking me he's
going to get an offal surprise sooner rather than later.


Idle threat or you are going to go into one of your self imposed hiatus'.

JimH should not have allowed your personal attacks on him to **** him
off,
but it did.


No, he should not. JimH should have thicker skin. He who wields a flame
thrower is well advised to wear an asbestos suit and keep a sharp eye
peeled for blowback. JimH is far superior to Psuedo, however, as JimH
only attempts to make a personal issue out of posts that have actually
appeared in the NG. Psuedo, OTOH, dreams up some crap supposedly from
five years ago and supposedly from a private conversation and
challenges people to defend/explain statements that were never made in
the first place. JimH often chooses a very narrow and unusual
perspective from which to evaluate a post, but it would be very much
unlike JimH to make up crap out of thin air and then demand somebody
account for it. When JimH calls me a liar, as he has done on a number
of ocassions, he always itemizes his bill and pulls no punches as to
the nature of the "lie" he is alleging.


Seems like your skin is getting thinner every day.

So, you have been challenged in a public forum for private a discussion you
had with Skipper? Tell us your side and we will then determine who we
believe.

Chuck you are a bully and when some one turns it back on you it really gets
you ****ed. A spoon full of your own medicine is often bitter.

The major similarity between Psuedo and JimH is that its a dislike for
my political philosophy that fosters the vast majority of their
personal remarks.
JimH has never met me, and Psuedo Skipper obviously doesn't know me.


Your tirads about those that have differing opinions is what ****es people
off. You have an air of superiority in your written words.

Maybe you owe him an apology, you know what they say about
Karma.


I publicly apologized for voicing my suspicion that the extremely
weird, once-in-a-lifetime posting style used by "Skipper" at the
opening of his "Open Letter" attack thread and the use of the same very
unsual style and phrasing in an attack post by JimH likely indicated
common authorship. I do not apologize for suspecting the common
authorship. You, yourself, said you suspected a common authorship until
some computer-related data convinced you otherwise.


Keep trying you will realize the source someday.


ps - This Skipper is Dave Mann from Derby Kansas. He is the person you
meet in person, it is not a Pseudo.


I am beginning to see some similarity between the current version of
Skipper and the very worst examples of Cave Mann when he was most out
of control in previous years. What a shame if it's Dave, time has not
been kind to him at all.


Time hasn't been good to you either, you have become more acidic these last
couple of years.

If it's really Dave, the Psuedo Skipper title still fits him very well.
If he buys another boat, we'll surely begin hearing tales about how his
new driveway ornament is the best "purpose built" craft on the planet,
and he'll be insisting that everybody else drag their boats down to
Mexico where he will demonstrate proper technique for riding out
hurricane force winds in a little runabout. Maybe he'll invite his
Wilson cousins, the Boys can sit on the Beach.


The similarities between Skipper and Harry are very interesting.



Skipper October 11th 05 03:38 AM

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wrote:

Starbuck's Words of Wisdom wrote:
Chuck,


Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go
ballistic.


I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.


After Skipper left the NG you flamed him at every mention. You KNEW he
had over 50 years of boating experience and yet you called him a
"non-boater". That alone would be justification for most, but you went
further, placing him as the butt of your jokes with acquaintances over
beers. Skipper has plenty of cause for setting the record straight about
your integrity and honesty.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.


Are you now stating the conversations you had with Skipper about AIMS
did not happen?

Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.


Why are you avoiding an open discussion about AIMS? Could it be because
that would show you in an unflattering light?

You ain't seen "ballistic", Starbucks. I'm currently merely annoyed
with this little butt barnacle- but if he insists on stalking me he's
going to get an offal surprise sooner rather than later.


You seem mighty worried about this invitation to an open discussion. I
believe most will have a hard time understanding your reluctance to
discuss your prior statements about AIMS.

JimH should not have allowed your personal attacks on him to **** him
off, but it did.


No, he should not. JimH should have thicker skin. He who wields a flame
thrower is well advised to wear an asbestos suit and keep a sharp eye
peeled for blowback.


You might want to follow you own advice about flaming others. It open an
invitation to an open discussion about YOUR conduct.

JimH is far superior to Psuedo, however, as JimH only attempts to make
a personal issue out of posts that have actually appeared in the NG.
Psuedo, OTOH, dreams up some crap supposedly from five years ago and
supposedly from a private conversation and challenges people to
defend/explain statements that were never made in the first place.


"Dreams up crap that never took place"? Perhaps we should discuss and
let the NG readers decide for themselves who is relating the truth.

The major similarity between Psuedo and JimH is that its a dislike for
my political philosophy that fosters the vast majority of their
personal remarks. JimH has never met me, and Psuedo Skipper obviously
doesn't know me.


Would seem you are Mr. Perfect and have no fault. Congratulations. Now,
lets discuss AIMS and your statements.

Maybe you owe him an apology, you know what they say about Karma.


I do not apologize for suspecting the common authorship. You, yourself,
said you suspected a common authorship until some computer-related data
convinced you otherwise.


Sufficient evidence has been presented so that you KNOW who is accusing
you.

ps - This Skipper is the person you meet in person, it is not a Pseudo.


I am beginning to see some similarity between the current version of
Skipper and the very worst examples of Cave Mann when he was most out
of control in previous years. What a shame if it's Dave, time has not
been kind to him at all. Maybe he'll invite his Wilson cousins, the
Boys can sit on the Beach.


All but one of those cousins are now dead, as are their parents. The one
cousin who lives is brain fried. As I've stated before, you are indeed a
class act, Chucky.

--
Skipper

Skipper October 11th 05 03:47 AM

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Bert Robbins wrote:

I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.


Now you are going to try and play the poor innocent me card. It won't
work.


Chucky just doesn't know where the truth begins. A Common problem with
used car salesmen types.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.


Are you now ready to discuss your statements to me regarding AIMS? NG
readers can decide for themselves who is being honest about those
discussions.

You ain't seen "ballistic", Starbucks. I'm currently merely annoyed
with this little butt barnacle- but if he insists on stalking me he's
going to get an offal surprise sooner rather than later.


Let's discuss.

--
Skipper

Starbuckaroo October 11th 05 04:09 AM

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Harry,
Do you ever contribute anything of value in the NG?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:


The usual Bert crap, off-topic, devoid of content, and foul-smelling.




[email protected] October 11th 05 08:28 AM

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those cousins are now dead, as are their parents. The one
cousin who lives is brain fried.
--
Skipper


Indeed.


[email protected] October 11th 05 08:52 AM

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Skipper wrote:
wrote:

Starbuck's Words of Wisdom wrote:
Chuck,


Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go
ballistic.


I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.


After Skipper left the NG you flamed him at every mention. You KNEW he
had over 50 years of boating experience and yet you called him a
"non-boater". That alone would be justification for most, but you went
further, placing him as the butt of your jokes with acquaintances over
beers. Skipper has plenty of cause for setting the record straight about
your integrity and honesty.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.


Are you now stating the conversations you had with Skipper about AIMS
did not happen?

Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.


Why are you avoiding an open discussion about AIMS? Could it be because
that would show you in an unflattering light?


I can't imagine why.

Here's what somebody who was actually present during the conversations
Skipper and I had in Seattle reported, so see what you think.


JD's Survey Not so Powerful
Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a
boat
I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us ...
rec.boats - Oct 26 2001, 9:35 am by Skipper - 65 messages - 15 authors


Here in the NG, we should discuss things posted to the NG. Not things
that one side of a private conversation changes the story after five
years or so and now claims were said.

For example: (the following incident never occured)...suppose I
suddenly appeared in the group to report, "When Skipper was last in
Seattle, he kept asking me if I knew anything about the Broadway
District. He said he had heard that it was a great place to pick up
underage boys willing to go down on fat old men for a little quick
spending cash. He reached in his pocket and pulled out a paper that
said, "For a good time, call so and so....." (etc, etc, you get the
point).....

Psuedo, what the same crazy heck would be the point of arguing about
that conversation in the NG? First, it was a private conversation
between you and me. Second, with a total lack of evidence available on
either side the "discussion" you call for would devolve into you
said/did not you said/did not you said/did not etc.

If you think its suddenly your role in life to challenge my ethics,
then do so with some incident or statement that is known to others in
the NG- not a "Gould said this, and in spite of my previous statements
to the contrary you'll now have to take my word for it..." bag of BS.

The only real record I have of anything Skipper or I said during or
about our meetings is the statement posted some time after our 2nd
meeting in Seattle.
Let's see, how does that go again....oh, yeah.......



JD's Survey Not so Powerful
Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a
boat
I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us ...
rec.boats - Oct 26 2001, 9:35 am by Skipper - 65 messages - 15 authors


GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).


PocoLoco October 11th 05 12:21 PM

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On 10 Oct 2005 17:42:24 -0700, wrote:


Starbuck's Words of Wisdom wrote:
Chuck,

Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go ballistic.


I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.
Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.

You ain't seen "ballistic", Starbucks. I'm currently merely annoyed
with this little butt barnacle- but if he insists on stalking me he's
going to get an offal surprise sooner rather than later.


You sure this isn't Harry stalking you? Sure sounds like his behavior, 'stalking
a person from thread to thread to lob disruptive insults'!

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

*JimH* October 11th 05 12:27 PM

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wrote in message
oups.com...

Skipper wrote:
wrote:

Starbuck's Words of Wisdom wrote:
Chuck,


Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go
ballistic.


I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.


After Skipper left the NG you flamed him at every mention. You KNEW he
had over 50 years of boating experience and yet you called him a
"non-boater". That alone would be justification for most, but you went
further, placing him as the butt of your jokes with acquaintances over
beers. Skipper has plenty of cause for setting the record straight about
your integrity and honesty.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.


Are you now stating the conversations you had with Skipper about AIMS
did not happen?

Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.


Why are you avoiding an open discussion about AIMS? Could it be because
that would show you in an unflattering light?


I can't imagine why.

Here's what somebody who was actually present during the conversations
Skipper and I had in Seattle reported, so see what you think.


JD's Survey Not so Powerful
Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a
boat
I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us ...
rec.boats - Oct 26 2001, 9:35 am by Skipper - 65 messages - 15 authors


Here in the NG, we should discuss things posted to the NG. Not things
that one side of a private conversation changes the story after five
years or so and now claims were said.

For example: (the following incident never occured)...suppose I
suddenly appeared in the group to report, "When Skipper was last in
Seattle, he kept asking me if I knew anything about the Broadway
District. He said he had heard that it was a great place to pick up
underage boys willing to go down on fat old men for a little quick
spending cash. He reached in his pocket and pulled out a paper that
said, "For a good time, call so and so....." (etc, etc, you get the
point).....

Psuedo, what the same crazy heck would be the point of arguing about
that conversation in the NG? First, it was a private conversation
between you and me. Second, with a total lack of evidence available on
either side the "discussion" you call for would devolve into you
said/did not you said/did not you said/did not etc.

If you think its suddenly your role in life to challenge my ethics,
then do so with some incident or statement that is known to others in
the NG- not a "Gould said this, and in spite of my previous statements
to the contrary you'll now have to take my word for it..." bag of BS.

The only real record I have of anything Skipper or I said during or
about our meetings is the statement posted some time after our 2nd
meeting in Seattle.
Let's see, how does that go again....oh, yeah.......



JD's Survey Not so Powerful
Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a
boat
I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us ...
rec.boats - Oct 26 2001, 9:35 am by Skipper - 65 messages - 15 authors


GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).


I have caught up on what you have written since I have left over a week ago.
I see you still perpetuate the lies about me, including the fact that
continue to claim that you apologized to me for your whopper of a lie about
me.

But how fun it is to see you twist and turn like this Chuckles. It seems
that Old Skipper has struck a raw nerve and is about to uncover you for the
pathetic person you really are.

PS. I am still waiting to see the *attack post* you accused me of writing
about you. I am also still waiting for a real apology from you for your
lies about me.



Skipper October 11th 05 12:37 PM

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wrote:

I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.


After Skipper left the NG you flamed him at every mention. You KNEW he
had over 50 years of boating experience and yet you called him a
"non-boater". That alone would be justification for most, but you went
further, placing him as the butt of your jokes with acquaintances over
beers. Skipper has plenty of cause for setting the record straight about
your integrity and honesty.


Are you now stating the conversations you had with Skipper about AIMS
did not happen?


Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.


Why are you avoiding an open discussion about AIMS? Could it be because
that would show you in an unflattering light?


I can't imagine why.


I can, let's discuss and let the NG decide.

Here in the NG, we should discuss things posted to the NG. Not things
that one side of a private conversation changes the story after five
years or so and now claims were said.


We have some pretty smart participants in this NG. I think their powers
of perception can detect truth. Subjects need not be limited to only
what has been previously posted to this NG.

That said, I believe it has become all too obvious that you have no
intention of discussing AIMS, your role with that "marine research
operation", or your previous statements about that company. I believe
most NG readers also know the reason why.

For example: (the following incident never occured)...suppose I
suddenly appeared in the group to report, "When Skipper was last in
Seattle, he kept asking me if I knew anything about the Broadway
District. He said he had heard that it was a great place to pick up
underage boys willing to go down on fat old men for a little quick
spending cash. He reached in his pocket and pulled out a paper that
said, "For a good time, call so and so....." (etc, etc, you get the
point).....


As I've stated previously, you are truly a class act, Chucky.

Psuedo, what the same crazy heck would be the point of arguing about
that conversation in the NG? First, it was a private conversation
between you and me. Second, with a total lack of evidence available on
either side the "discussion" you call for would devolve into you
said/did not you said/did not you said/did not etc.


You sound like the typical used car salesman, Chucky. The point of
discussing AIMS and our previous conversations about it would be to
illuminate you and your conduct. Readers can and will come to their own
conclusions.

If you think its suddenly your role in life to challenge my ethics,
then do so with some incident or statement that is known to others in
the NG- not a "Gould said this, and in spite of my previous statements
to the contrary you'll now have to take my word for it..." bag of BS.


I'm challenging your conduct precisely BECAUSE of your conduct. I did
not insult and belittle you during my absence, you however did.

The only real record I have of anything Skipper or I said during or
about our meetings is the statement posted some time after our 2nd
meeting in Seattle.
Let's see, how does that go again....oh, yeah.......


JD's Survey Not so Powerful - Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him
as my representative for a boat I'd seen before contacting him, he would
have saved us ... rec.boats - Oct 26 2001, 9:35 am by Skipper - 65
messages - 15 authors


That repeated snippet seems a bit like the refuge of a scoundrel to me.
I HAVE explained those comments.

GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).


You really are a class act, Chucky.

--
Skipper

Skipper October 11th 05 12:48 PM

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*JimH* wrote:

GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).


I have caught up on what you have written since I have left over a
week ago. I see you still perpetuate the lies about me, including
the fact that continue to claim that you apologized to me for your
whopper of a lie about me.


As with most used car salesman types, it would appear Chucky is clueless
regarding the differences or dividing line between truth and lies. You
are dealing with a pretty low class individual.

But how fun it is to see you twist and turn like this Chuckles. It
seems that Old Skipper has struck a raw nerve and is about to uncover
you for the pathetic person you really are.


Chucky will make that disclosure himself...by his actions and
obfuscation of the truth.

PS. I am still waiting to see the *attack post* you accused me of writing
about you. I am also still waiting for a real apology from you for your
lies about me.


Chucky just doesn't possess the class needed to offer that overdue
apology.

--
Skipper

*JimH* October 11th 05 01:04 PM

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).


I have caught up on what you have written since I have left over a
week ago. I see you still perpetuate the lies about me, including
the fact that continue to claim that you apologized to me for your
whopper of a lie about me.


As with most used car salesman types, it would appear Chucky is clueless
regarding the differences or dividing line between truth and lies. You
are dealing with a pretty low class individual.

But how fun it is to see you twist and turn like this Chuckles. It
seems that Old Skipper has struck a raw nerve and is about to uncover
you for the pathetic person you really are.


Chucky will make that disclosure himself...by his actions and
obfuscation of the truth.



PS. I am still waiting to see the *attack post* you accused me of
writing
about you. I am also still waiting for a real apology from you for your
lies about me.


Chucky just doesn't possess the class needed to offer that overdue
apology.

--
Skipper


While away over the past week I was able to stumble upon a new piece of
software used by national and international police and security
organizations including the FBI, CIA, Interpol and KGB. The software is
able to show a physical image of a person once a variety of personality
traits and other characteristics/known facts are entered about the person in
question.



I played with the software to see if it really works.


Here are my results:





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Starbuckaroo October 11th 05 01:52 PM

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Skipper,
From what I can tell from your posts, you are suggesting Gould recommended
donating a boat to Charity for tax purposes, which is neither illegal or
immoral.


"Skipper" wrote in message
...
wrote:

I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.


After Skipper left the NG you flamed him at every mention. You KNEW he
had over 50 years of boating experience and yet you called him a
"non-boater". That alone would be justification for most, but you went
further, placing him as the butt of your jokes with acquaintances over
beers. Skipper has plenty of cause for setting the record straight about
your integrity and honesty.


Are you now stating the conversations you had with Skipper about AIMS
did not happen?


Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.


Why are you avoiding an open discussion about AIMS? Could it be because
that would show you in an unflattering light?


I can't imagine why.


I can, let's discuss and let the NG decide.

Here in the NG, we should discuss things posted to the NG. Not things
that one side of a private conversation changes the story after five
years or so and now claims were said.


We have some pretty smart participants in this NG. I think their powers
of perception can detect truth. Subjects need not be limited to only
what has been previously posted to this NG.

That said, I believe it has become all too obvious that you have no
intention of discussing AIMS, your role with that "marine research
operation", or your previous statements about that company. I believe
most NG readers also know the reason why.

For example: (the following incident never occured)...suppose I
suddenly appeared in the group to report, "When Skipper was last in
Seattle, he kept asking me if I knew anything about the Broadway
District. He said he had heard that it was a great place to pick up
underage boys willing to go down on fat old men for a little quick
spending cash. He reached in his pocket and pulled out a paper that
said, "For a good time, call so and so....." (etc, etc, you get the
point).....


As I've stated previously, you are truly a class act, Chucky.

Psuedo, what the same crazy heck would be the point of arguing about
that conversation in the NG? First, it was a private conversation
between you and me. Second, with a total lack of evidence available on
either side the "discussion" you call for would devolve into you
said/did not you said/did not you said/did not etc.


You sound like the typical used car salesman, Chucky. The point of
discussing AIMS and our previous conversations about it would be to
illuminate you and your conduct. Readers can and will come to their own
conclusions.

If you think its suddenly your role in life to challenge my ethics,
then do so with some incident or statement that is known to others in
the NG- not a "Gould said this, and in spite of my previous statements
to the contrary you'll now have to take my word for it..." bag of BS.


I'm challenging your conduct precisely BECAUSE of your conduct. I did
not insult and belittle you during my absence, you however did.

The only real record I have of anything Skipper or I said during or
about our meetings is the statement posted some time after our 2nd
meeting in Seattle.
Let's see, how does that go again....oh, yeah.......


JD's Survey Not so Powerful - Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him
as my representative for a boat I'd seen before contacting him, he would
have saved us ... rec.boats - Oct 26 2001, 9:35 am by Skipper - 65
messages - 15 authors


That repeated snippet seems a bit like the refuge of a scoundrel to me.
I HAVE explained those comments.

GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).


You really are a class act, Chucky.

--
Skipper




Don White October 11th 05 03:45 PM

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Skipper wrote:
*JimH* wrote:


GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).




I have caught up on what you have written since I have left over a
week ago. I see you still perpetuate the lies about me, including
the fact that continue to claim that you apologized to me for your
whopper of a lie about me.



As with most used car salesman types, it would appear Chucky is clueless
regarding the differences or dividing line between truth and lies. You
are dealing with a pretty low class individual.


But how fun it is to see you twist and turn like this Chuckles. It
seems that Old Skipper has struck a raw nerve and is about to uncover
you for the pathetic person you really are.



Chucky will make that disclosure himself...by his actions and
obfuscation of the truth.


PS. I am still waiting to see the *attack post* you accused me of writing
about you. I am also still waiting for a real apology from you for your
lies about me.



Chucky just doesn't possess the class needed to offer that overdue
apology.

--
Skipper


Oh boy! Now we have Twiddle Dee & Twiddle Dumb talking back & forth.
Why don't you buy a small boat between the two of you, take Bertie along
for ballast, and go for a nice long cruise.

Skipper October 11th 05 04:01 PM

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Starbuckaroo wrote:

Skipper,
From what I can tell from your posts, you are suggesting Gould recommended
donating a boat to Charity for tax purposes, which is neither illegal or
immoral.


You can pretty well bet Chucky has not been going to such extremes
avoiding the requested discussion for that reason. Actually, the reason
he's been so evasive goes to his basic honesty. And on that subject, I
believe his *evasiveness* negates the need for further discussion.
Prosecution rests.

Note - It is however a shame the NG did not benefit from an informative
and on-topic discussion of AIMS.

--
Skipper

Starbuckaroo October 11th 05 04:14 PM

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Skipper,
What is the name of the charity?


"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Starbuckaroo wrote:

Skipper,
From what I can tell from your posts, you are suggesting Gould
recommended
donating a boat to Charity for tax purposes, which is neither illegal or
immoral.


You can pretty well bet Chucky has not been going to such extremes
avoiding the requested discussion for that reason. Actually, the reason
he's been so evasive goes to his basic honesty. And on that subject, I
believe his *evasiveness* negates the need for further discussion.
Prosecution rests.

Note - It is however a shame the NG did not benefit from an informative
and on-topic discussion of AIMS.

--
Skipper




Starbuckaroo October 11th 05 04:17 PM

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Harry,
I would have thought someone who likes to believe he understands the
internet would have been able to figure out Skipper is the same Skipper you
know and love.

It was silly when you screwed up and were caught using a sock puppet, but
even you can figure out the new Skipper is not a sock puppet or a
PseudoSkipper.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Skipper wrote:
*JimH* wrote:


GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).


I have caught up on what you have written since I have left over a
week ago. I see you still perpetuate the lies about me, including
the fact that continue to claim that you apologized to me for your
whopper of a lie about me.


As with most used car salesman types, it would appear Chucky is clueless
regarding the differences or dividing line between truth and lies. You
are dealing with a pretty low class individual.


But how fun it is to see you twist and turn like this Chuckles. It
seems that Old Skipper has struck a raw nerve and is about to uncover
you for the pathetic person you really are.


Chucky will make that disclosure himself...by his actions and
obfuscation of the truth.


PS. I am still waiting to see the *attack post* you accused me of
writing
about you. I am also still waiting for a real apology from you for
your
lies about me.


Chucky just doesn't possess the class needed to offer that overdue
apology.

--
Skipper


Oh boy! Now we have Twiddle Dee & Twiddle Dumb talking back & forth.
Why don't you buy a small boat between the two of you, take Bertie along
for ballast, and go for a nice long cruise.



I was just thinking almost the same thing...
Now we've got Hertvik the Whiner back, along with PseudoSkipper. Aren't we
lucky?

I'll bet you that when Hertvik was in high school, not a week went by
without someone punching out his lights.

Have you ever encountered an adult male (I use that term loosely) who
whines as much in usenet as Hertvik?




Don White October 11th 05 04:23 PM

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Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

Skipper wrote:

*JimH* wrote:


GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).




I have caught up on what you have written since I have left over a
week ago. I see you still perpetuate the lies about me, including
the fact that continue to claim that you apologized to me for your
whopper of a lie about me.



As with most used car salesman types, it would appear Chucky is clueless
regarding the differences or dividing line between truth and lies. You
are dealing with a pretty low class individual.


But how fun it is to see you twist and turn like this Chuckles. It
seems that Old Skipper has struck a raw nerve and is about to uncover
you for the pathetic person you really are.



Chucky will make that disclosure himself...by his actions and
obfuscation of the truth.


PS. I am still waiting to see the *attack post* you accused me of
writing
about you. I am also still waiting for a real apology from you for
your
lies about me.



Chucky just doesn't possess the class needed to offer that overdue
apology.

--
Skipper



Oh boy! Now we have Twiddle Dee & Twiddle Dumb talking back & forth.
Why don't you buy a small boat between the two of you, take Bertie
along for ballast, and go for a nice long cruise.




I was just thinking almost the same thing...
Now we've got Hertvik the Whiner back, along with PseudoSkipper. Aren't
we lucky?

I'll bet you that when Hertvik was in high school, not a week went by
without someone punching out his lights.

Have you ever encountered an adult male (I use that term loosely) who
whines as much in usenet as Hertvik?


I'm guessing he hung out with 'the girls'.

*JimH* October 11th 05 04:53 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

Skipper wrote:

*JimH* wrote:


GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).



I have caught up on what you have written since I have left over a
week ago. I see you still perpetuate the lies about me, including
the fact that continue to claim that you apologized to me for your
whopper of a lie about me.



As with most used car salesman types, it would appear Chucky is
clueless
regarding the differences or dividing line between truth and lies. You
are dealing with a pretty low class individual.


But how fun it is to see you twist and turn like this Chuckles. It
seems that Old Skipper has struck a raw nerve and is about to uncover
you for the pathetic person you really are.



Chucky will make that disclosure himself...by his actions and
obfuscation of the truth.


PS. I am still waiting to see the *attack post* you accused me of
writing
about you. I am also still waiting for a real apology from you for
your
lies about me.



Chucky just doesn't possess the class needed to offer that overdue
apology.

--
Skipper


Oh boy! Now we have Twiddle Dee & Twiddle Dumb talking back & forth.
Why don't you buy a small boat between the two of you, take Bertie along
for ballast, and go for a nice long cruise.




I was just thinking almost the same thing...
Now we've got Hertvik the Whiner back, along with PseudoSkipper. Aren't
we lucky?

I'll bet you that when Hertvik was in high school, not a week went by
without someone punching out his lights.

Have you ever encountered an adult male (I use that term loosely) who
whines as much in usenet as Hertvik?


I'm guessing he hung out with 'the girls'.


I tried to be nice to you Don but I see you want to continue with a
confrontational relationship. Go ahead. I will not stoop to your level.



Starbucker October 11th 05 05:04 PM

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Harry,
It is nice to see you have such admirable characteristics that others can
emulate. I am very proud that you did not call him a rectal fissure. That
is a step in the right direction. Keep up the good work.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

I tried to be nice to you Don but I see you want to continue with a
confrontational relationship. Go ahead. I will not stoop to your level.



You're a whining dumbass, Hertvik. You keep doing dumb things here,
apologizing for them, vowing to never do them again, and then you
disappear for a few days and come back and do the same dumb things over
and over and over.

And you whine a lot.

Grow up. Be a mensch. Or at least try to fake being a mensch.




*JimH* October 11th 05 05:14 PM

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I guess some folks are without fault in Krause's twisted mind.

I can only think of 2 things I was man enough to apologized for. This is
the only hiatus I took from the group that I can recall. Krause indeed
likes to exaggerate.

And being nasty is also natural for some people here.....Krause, Kanter,
jps, Gould, Kevin and now Don White.


"Starbucker" wrote in message
...
Harry,
It is nice to see you have such admirable characteristics that others can
emulate. I am very proud that you did not call him a rectal fissure.
That is a step in the right direction. Keep up the good work.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

I tried to be nice to you Don but I see you want to continue with a
confrontational relationship. Go ahead. I will not stoop to your
level.



You're a whining dumbass, Hertvik. You keep doing dumb things here,
apologizing for them, vowing to never do them again, and then you
disappear for a few days and come back and do the same dumb things over
and over and over.

And you whine a lot.

Grow up. Be a mensch. Or at least try to fake being a mensch.






Starbucker October 11th 05 05:22 PM

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JimH,

Harry likes to engage you because he believes he can hurt your feelings. If
you are smart, you will not take anything said in rec.boats seriously.

For what it is worth, Don is not a bad guy, he is looking for support from
Harry and the easy way to do that is to take potshots at those Harry
insults. My guess is Don is a nice enough guy in real life.


" *JimH*" wrote in message
...
I guess some folks are without fault in Krause's twisted mind.

I can only think of 2 things I was man enough to apologized for. This is
the only hiatus I took from the group that I can recall. Krause indeed
likes to exaggerate.

And being nasty is also natural for some people here.....Krause, Kanter,
jps, Gould, Kevin and now Don White.


"Starbucker" wrote in message
...
Harry,
It is nice to see you have such admirable characteristics that others can
emulate. I am very proud that you did not call him a rectal fissure.
That is a step in the right direction. Keep up the good work.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

I tried to be nice to you Don but I see you want to continue with a
confrontational relationship. Go ahead. I will not stoop to your
level.


You're a whining dumbass, Hertvik. You keep doing dumb things here,
apologizing for them, vowing to never do them again, and then you
disappear for a few days and come back and do the same dumb things over
and over and over.

And you whine a lot.

Grow up. Be a mensch. Or at least try to fake being a mensch.








*JimH* October 11th 05 05:27 PM

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"Starbucker" wrote in message
...
JimH,

Harry likes to engage you because he believes he can hurt your feelings.
If you are smart, you will not take anything said in rec.boats seriously.

For what it is worth, Don is not a bad guy, he is looking for support from
Harry and the easy way to do that is to take potshots at those Harry
insults. My guess is Don is a nice enough guy in real life.


He has yet to prove it to me despit the fact that I have tried to be nice to
him.

The gloves are off for me with Krause and Gould but I will continue to treat
Don with respect. Maybe he can change.



Don White October 11th 05 05:29 PM

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Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Don White wrote:

Skipper wrote:

*JimH* wrote:


GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).





I have caught up on what you have written since I have left over a
week ago. I see you still perpetuate the lies about me, including
the fact that continue to claim that you apologized to me for your
whopper of a lie about me.




As with most used car salesman types, it would appear Chucky is
clueless
regarding the differences or dividing line between truth and lies. You
are dealing with a pretty low class individual.


But how fun it is to see you twist and turn like this Chuckles. It
seems that Old Skipper has struck a raw nerve and is about to uncover
you for the pathetic person you really are.




Chucky will make that disclosure himself...by his actions and
obfuscation of the truth.


PS. I am still waiting to see the *attack post* you accused me of
writing
about you. I am also still waiting for a real apology from you
for your
lies about me.




Chucky just doesn't possess the class needed to offer that overdue
apology.

--
Skipper



Oh boy! Now we have Twiddle Dee & Twiddle Dumb talking back & forth.
Why don't you buy a small boat between the two of you, take Bertie
along for ballast, and go for a nice long cruise.




I was just thinking almost the same thing...
Now we've got Hertvik the Whiner back, along with PseudoSkipper.
Aren't we lucky?

I'll bet you that when Hertvik was in high school, not a week went by
without someone punching out his lights.

Have you ever encountered an adult male (I use that term loosely) who
whines as much in usenet as Hertvik?



I'm guessing he hung out with 'the girls'.




Did they refer to him as "PrissyJim?"

No comment. I don't want the local police/RCMP/CIA/Ohio State
Police/Avon Lake Sheriff etc starting files on me. I might want to
cross over the border sometime.

[email protected] October 11th 05 05:29 PM

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Psuedo, you're a simpering dweeb.

Here are a couple of links to sites that describe some of the work done
by the organization with which I was once associated. As you say, the
NG has many bright members who can decide for themselves (assuming they
gave a ratz patoot in the first place)whether your charge that I was
engaged in a dishonest business and involved in "tax fraud" has any
merit or not.

There were some abuses throughout the entire boat donation industry,
and the firm I worked with was probably not a vestal virgin. No
business (or person) is perfect, or absolutely ethical 24/7/365. That
business morality doesn't automatically reflect on the morality or the
ethics of everybody involved. In recent years, we have seen many news
accounts of pedophile priests and attempts by bishops, etc, to cover up
the crimes of these guys and just transfer them from church to church
rather than deal with the problem. I assume, by your standards, that if
ever you meet a priest you're going to assume he's a pedophile? If
there are 10 people working in a church and it is ultimately discovered
that the priest has been having his way with the altar boys in the
confession booth, would you consider the church secretary, the janitor,
etc etc etc pedophiles as well? Would you consider any church to be the
domain of a pedophile?

Still have any of that literature you claim I gave you 6 or 7 years
ago?
If so, take a look at it. Every page had bold statements urging people
considering the donation of a boat to check with their own attorney or
tax professional before going ahead. Most did, and some of them
discovered that for various reasons, (such as AMT, specific bracketing,
etc), it wouldn't be a good idea to proceed. Fine. In my role, I wasn't
in the business of giving tax advice but I could explain the mechanics
of the program as it would be implemented for people who chose to make
a donation. We continuously urged prospective donors to get some
independent advice before donating.


http://www.miami.edu/campaign/donors...s_dp_aims.html


http://www.aims-nw.org/seattleservice.htm


http://www.mpcfaculty.net/tami_lunsf...returnsweb.pdf

http://www.miami.edu/campaign/donors...s_dp_aims.html

As far as I'm concerned, that's my portion of this "discussion".

GFYS. (go fantasize you're skipper)


[email protected] October 11th 05 05:30 PM

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*JimH* wrote:
"Starbucker" wrote in message
...
JimH,

Harry likes to engage you because he believes he can hurt your feelings.
If you are smart, you will not take anything said in rec.boats seriously.

For what it is worth, Don is not a bad guy, he is looking for support from
Harry and the easy way to do that is to take potshots at those Harry
insults. My guess is Don is a nice enough guy in real life.


He has yet to prove it to me despit the fact that I have tried to be nice to
him.

The gloves are off for me with Krause and Gould but I will continue to treat
Don with respect. Maybe he can change.


Damn, I see you're back at it full time.


Skipper October 11th 05 05:31 PM

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*JimH* wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote:


You're a whining dumbass. you whine a lot. Grow up. Be a mensch. Or
at least try to fake being a mensch.


Being nasty is natural for some people here.....Krause, Kanter, jps,
Gould, Kevin and now Don White.


Krause, Gould and Don White have always been nasty. Their
"contributions" are the major reason this NG is now in the toilet.

--
Skipper

[email protected] October 11th 05 05:33 PM

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*JimH* wrote:
"Skipper" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).


I have caught up on what you have written since I have left over a
week ago. I see you still perpetuate the lies about me, including
the fact that continue to claim that you apologized to me for your
whopper of a lie about me.


As with most used car salesman types, it would appear Chucky is clueless
regarding the differences or dividing line between truth and lies. You
are dealing with a pretty low class individual.

But how fun it is to see you twist and turn like this Chuckles. It
seems that Old Skipper has struck a raw nerve and is about to uncover
you for the pathetic person you really are.


Chucky will make that disclosure himself...by his actions and
obfuscation of the truth.



PS. I am still waiting to see the *attack post* you accused me of
writing
about you. I am also still waiting for a real apology from you for your
lies about me.


Chucky just doesn't possess the class needed to offer that overdue
apology.

--
Skipper


While away over the past week I was able to stumble upon a new piece of
software used by national and international police and security
organizations including the FBI, CIA, Interpol and KGB. The software is
able to show a physical image of a person once a variety of personality
traits and other characteristics/known facts are entered about the person in
question.



I played with the software to see if it really works.


Here are my results:





Traits: Brutal, rape room, inhuman, dictator, murderer, cold blooded,
torture chamber, Anti-Christ



Result: http://tinyurl.com/7chfb





Traits: Charming, beautiful, stunning, extraordinary talent, film star,
royalty.



Results: http://tinyurl.com/bffps



http://tinyurl.com/bgrua





Traits: Liar, unethical, egotistical, ultra liberal, coward



Result: http://tinyurl.com/b9z6z






The software really is amazingly accurate!


What a shame you're back. The overall tone of the group was quite nice
while you were gone, except for all of the Smithers clones. Even Fritz
shut his ignorant mouth. (I think that's because he missed giving you
your daily nose job, though)


[email protected] October 11th 05 05:35 PM

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Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

Skipper wrote:

*JimH* wrote:


GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).




I have caught up on what you have written since I have left over a
week ago. I see you still perpetuate the lies about me, including
the fact that continue to claim that you apologized to me for your
whopper of a lie about me.



As with most used car salesman types, it would appear Chucky is clueless
regarding the differences or dividing line between truth and lies. You
are dealing with a pretty low class individual.


But how fun it is to see you twist and turn like this Chuckles. It
seems that Old Skipper has struck a raw nerve and is about to uncover
you for the pathetic person you really are.



Chucky will make that disclosure himself...by his actions and
obfuscation of the truth.


PS. I am still waiting to see the *attack post* you accused me of
writing
about you. I am also still waiting for a real apology from you for
your
lies about me.



Chucky just doesn't possess the class needed to offer that overdue
apology.

--
Skipper


Oh boy! Now we have Twiddle Dee & Twiddle Dumb talking back & forth.
Why don't you buy a small boat between the two of you, take Bertie
along for ballast, and go for a nice long cruise.




I was just thinking almost the same thing...
Now we've got Hertvik the Whiner back, along with PseudoSkipper. Aren't
we lucky?

I'll bet you that when Hertvik was in high school, not a week went by
without someone punching out his lights.

Have you ever encountered an adult male (I use that term loosely) who
whines as much in usenet as Hertvik?


I'm guessing he hung out with 'the girls'.


(I'm entitled to a return salvo.....)

Naw, see his software post just up this thread. He spent his time
"playing with it to see if it really works".



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