...........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

I think it's just a sign of a changing market. More people are interested
in a fair weather day outing. In that situation bow riders have more usable
space. Bigger just means you can take more friends. Imho boats with cabins
are clastrophobic in anything under about 28 ft anyway.

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..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

*JimH* wrote:
..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

Guess you've never been in a cabin, in summer, in the south, huh?

There you go :-)

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*JimH* wrote:
..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

Guess you've never been in a cabin, in summer, in the south, huh?

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There you go :-)

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*JimH* wrote:
..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

Guess you've never been in a cabin, in summer, in the south, huh?




Guess you never heard of air conditioning, huh?

I have heard of air conditioning. And I'm familiar with how much power it
takes. A lot. Either you have a lot of batteries and don't run the ac for
long or you have a generator. Neither is very practical in a smaller boat.

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There you go :-)

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*JimH* wrote:
..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

Guess you've never been in a cabin, in summer, in the south, huh?




Guess you never heard of air conditioning, huh?

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I have heard of air conditioning. And I'm familiar with how much power it
takes. A lot. Either you have a lot of batteries and don't run the ac for
long or you have a generator. Neither is very practical in a smaller boat.

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There you go :-)

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*JimH* wrote:
..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

Guess you've never been in a cabin, in summer, in the south, huh?




Guess you never heard of air conditioning, huh?




Folks don't spend much time in the small cabins in smaller boats. Heck, we
use ours as a holding bin for our gear. I was addressing the cabin in a
32 foot cruiser as the initial discussion was about a 32 foot boat. And I
was also talking about the time while dockside as that is generally the time
one might be in the cabin. While dockside you have shorepower. Folks
cruising or anchored generally don't spend time in the cabin, even to eat.
So your discussion about the need for a genny or a large bank of batteries
to run the AC is also a bit over the edge.

And why are you now talking about small boats?

JamesgangNC wrote:


I have heard of air conditioning. And I'm familiar with how much power it
takes. A lot. Either you have a lot of batteries and don't run the ac for
long or you have a generator. Neither is very practical in a smaller boat.

At present I have a Crownline 210ccr on Lake Hartwell- along the GA SC
border. This is a 21ft cuddy cabin boat. first used on Lake Murry just
outside of Columbia SC. We are currently selling it because we no longer
need a boat with a pottie in it, thus we are going to a bowrider.

That being said, we have found by opening the door to to cockpit and
opening the hatch while on the hook a pleasent breeze blows through the
cuddy and makes it very nice to take a little snooze. Personally I can't
recall it ever being to hot in there, but I am sure there may have been
a time or two. Nine years of usage in the south without air conditioning
or the desire for it.

Capt Jack R.



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*JimH* wrote:

..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

Guess you've never been in a cabin, in summer, in the south, huh?



Guess you never heard of air conditioning, huh?

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:09:52 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:

..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?


I couldn't find any rod holders. Boo.

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

*JimH* wrote:
..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

Let me give you a hand interpreting the data you've discovered.

First, it doesn't matter what the nominal length appears to be based on
the model number ("316 LS"), you need to check the actual LOA.

That brings us down to 30-feet.

Then you need to actually evaluate how the boat is configured.
In this case, that 30 foot LOA includes an extended swim step of rather
exaggerated size. It appears to be at least 32", maybe even a 45-48"
swim step.

Looks like Crownline is offering about a 26-foot bowrider with an extra
large swim step (some people might find that rather handy, depending on
application) that stretches the boat to 30 feet LOA. No doubt they'll
catch a few folks who think the boat is over 31 feet long based on the
model number, or who don't take the time to evaluate the design as they
look at the boat.

Bowriders are fine for inland lakes during settled weather; and that
describes the conditions under which about 90% of boaters use a boat.

BTW, Crownline is building a pretty decent boat these days. They have
two very elite "C" brands glancing nervously back over their corportae
shoulders.