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wrote in message oups.com... 1) I no longer have Skipper's phone number. To the best of my recollection, I met with Skipper in 1999 and again in 2000. I don't keep junk contact information for 5-6 years. I was doing some stuff on switchboard.com last week and I got an "unlisted" hit for Dave Mann in Derby, KS. I can't blame the guy, he makes enemies for a hobby. For giggles I did a People Search on Yahoo for David Mann, Derby, KS. about a week ago. I got an return showing an active telephone number and address. Eisboch |
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JIMinFL wrote: It took about 5 seconds to Google up Skippers address and phone number. What kind of game do you suppose Chuck Gould is playing? You want a piece of this too? Figures. My "game token": (Cut 'n Paste from switchboard.com) Sorry, we were unable to find the person you requested. Please try any of the following: Check the spelling of the person's name, city, and state. Broaden your search by entering less information (ex. just enter last name) If you are unsure of the spelling of the last name, enter just the first few letters (in this case, omit the first name). Dave Mann - Current Unlisted Phone Numbers & Address Found Information was found in Public Records, including Age, Address History and Family Members. Cut 'n paste ends. Choke on it. If you found his phone number someplace, that's great. What would I possibly have to say to this guy? Maybe you should call him, Florida Jim. You seem to have a lot more in common with him. |
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Gould wrote:
Good work, Psuedo. Right away with the personal remarks. That should go a long way toward resolving your expressed concern that the group is so far OT. Lloyd; You may as well decide to start a buggy whip factory. The era of the internet forum has come and gone, killed off IMO by the search engine. If a guy wants to know why his outboard won't start, how to splice 3-strand,or when the salmon season is open in the Srait of Georgia, he'll run a search engine. Going to a discussion group provides a ton of conflicting advice- offered by people of varying crediblity and experience, and no real way to vet who is talking through his/her arse. The forum format brings in a bunch of non-boaters who turn it into a chat room for the exchange of bitchy personal remarks, and extra-bitchy personal remarks reserved for folks of either more liberal or conservative political stripe. Look at the mess here in rec.boats. When a boating related post gets 2-3 responses but a thread titled, "George Bush is a _________" or "NG participant X is a _________" generates 150-200 name-calling exchnges *that* defines the character and tone of the NG as it exists. For gosh sakes, if you start one of these things maintain the ability to moderate the worst trolls and most destructive posters. Rec.boats is a prime example of people shelfishly hijacking a forum and filling it with bull guano. =============================== Very well put, Chuck. I still visit hoping that the NG will get back to rec. boating. Like a wise man said, "Hope springs eternal." Norm |
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Lloyd, don't deprive all of us Central Canadians (Pat, our un-moderator, is
from Ottawa, still a thousand miles from the "East") of your occasional discussions of Wet Coast boating. I read them all! But I visit enough forums, wouldn't add another to my list. Charles ==== Charles T. Low www.boatdocking.com ==== "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... Hi, I've been frequenting a wonderful fishing forum full of great local folks, but I've been wishing for a similar board for boating. I've seen a few "Canadian" forums, but they all seem centered around the east (as is can.rec.boating). Is there a boating forum with a West-coast flavour? If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join? Lloyd Sumpter "Far Cove" Catalina 36 |
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wrote in message ups.com... If you found his phone number someplace, that's great. What would I possibly have to say to this guy? Maybe you should call him, Florida Jim. You seem to have a lot more in common with him. Hardly. Jim and Skipper were not exactly drinking buddies. Eisboch |
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Chuck,
Try using whitepages, it seems to work, but please don't choke on anything. http://www.whitepages.com/10001/sear...by&state_id=KS wrote in message ups.com... JIMinFL wrote: It took about 5 seconds to Google up Skippers address and phone number. What kind of game do you suppose Chuck Gould is playing? You want a piece of this too? Figures. My "game token": (Cut 'n Paste from switchboard.com) Sorry, we were unable to find the person you requested. Please try any of the following: Check the spelling of the person's name, city, and state. Broaden your search by entering less information (ex. just enter last name) If you are unsure of the spelling of the last name, enter just the first few letters (in this case, omit the first name). Dave Mann - Current Unlisted Phone Numbers & Address Found Information was found in Public Records, including Age, Address History and Family Members. Cut 'n paste ends. Choke on it. If you found his phone number someplace, that's great. What would I possibly have to say to this guy? Maybe you should call him, Florida Jim. You seem to have a lot more in common with him. |
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wrote in message ups.com... JIMinFL wrote: It took about 5 seconds to Google up Skippers address and phone number. What kind of game do you suppose Chuck Gould is playing? snip If you found his phone number someplace, that's great. What would I possibly have to say to this guy? For crying out loud. It isn't rocket science Chuck: ======================================== Hello, is Dave Mann there? Hi Dave, this is Chuck Gould. insert general conversation. Anyway, the reason I am calling is to find out if it is really you who is posting on rec.boats. ======================================== Mystery solved one way or another. |
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Starbucker wrote:
Chuck, How do you know Skipper had a stroke? It's just more of his flaming BS. What do you expect, this is the Chucky that I know: http://tinyurl.com/8tt8k -- Skipper |
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Skipper,
Since it is obvious that you are the same Skipper who graced this NG for years, why do you think the left wing contingent want to pretend you are a "fake" Skipper? "Skipper" wrote in message ... Starbucker wrote: Chuck, How do you know Skipper had a stroke? It's just more of his flaming BS. What do you expect, this is the Chucky that I know: http://tinyurl.com/8tt8k -- Skipper |
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"Skipper" wrote in message ... Starbucker wrote: Chuck, How do you know Skipper had a stroke? It's just more of his flaming BS. What do you expect, this is the Chucky that I know: http://tinyurl.com/8tt8k -- Skipper Why is it that Basskisser, jps, Krause and Gould are the only ones who doubt that you are the real thing? Do you see any sort of trend there? Pick one: 1. They have not yet seen the Wizard to ask for a brain AND they do not have any original thoughts, therefore needing to mimic those expressed by their liberal buddies. 2. All of the above 3. All of the above 4. All of the above |
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Starbucker wrote:
Skipper, Since it is obvious that you are the same Skipper who graced this NG for years, why do you think the left wing contingent want to pretend you are a "fake" Skipper? Believe we KNOW the reason why. -- Skipper |
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*JimH* wrote:
Why is it that Basskisser, jps, Krause and Gould are the only ones who doubt that you are the real thing? Do you see any sort of trend there? Pick one: 1. They have not yet seen the Wizard to ask for a brain AND they do not have any original thoughts, therefore needing to mimic those expressed by their liberal buddies. 2. All of the above 3. All of the above 4. All of the above I'm not sure their combined boating knowledge and experience can keep up. Local 'lubbers all. -- Skipper |
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I have a good idea why Harry and Chuck want to pretend it is not you. I do
find it funny that Don and Kevin jump on the Harry bandwagon so quickly. I wonder if they really believe it or just want to say "Attaboy" as they high 5 Harry. "Skipper" wrote in message ... Starbucker wrote: Skipper, Since it is obvious that you are the same Skipper who graced this NG for years, why do you think the left wing contingent want to pretend you are a "fake" Skipper? Believe we KNOW the reason why. -- Skipper |
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Starbucker wrote:
I have a good idea why Harry and Chuck want to pretend it is not you. I do find it funny that Don and Kevin jump on the Harry bandwagon so quickly. I wonder if they really believe it or just want to say "Attaboy" as they high 5 Harry. I've not really paid attention to "Don's" musings, not much there. Who's "Kevin"? Could be that they high-five Krause because that's all they know? -- Skipper |
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Starbucker wrote:
Skipper, Since it is obvious that you are the same Skipper who graced this NG for years, why do you think the left wing contingent want to pretend you are a "fake" Skipper? Graced?? More like stunk it out! |
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Don,
Skipper is the Ying to Harry's Yang. If you don't like Skipper's contribution to the NG, you must hate Harry's contribution to the NG. "Don White" wrote in message ... Starbucker wrote: Skipper, Since it is obvious that you are the same Skipper who graced this NG for years, why do you think the left wing contingent want to pretend you are a "fake" Skipper? Graced?? More like stunk it out! |
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Starbucker wrote:
I have a good idea why Harry and Chuck want to pretend it is not you. I do find it funny that Don and Kevin jump on the Harry bandwagon so quickly. I wonder if they really believe it or just want to say "Attaboy" as they high 5 Harry. We're just here to seek the truth....ot whatever passes for the truth here. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... Starbucker wrote: I have a good idea why Harry and Chuck want to pretend it is not you. I do find it funny that Don and Kevin jump on the Harry bandwagon so quickly. I wonder if they really believe it or just want to say "Attaboy" as they high 5 Harry. We're just here to seek the truth....ot whatever passes for the truth here. If you really want to seek the truth call him. As others have posted here, Skipper's phone number is on the net. If you choose not to please tell us, factually, why he is not the real deal. |
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Don White wrote:
We're just here to seek the truth....ot whatever passes for the truth here. Then you must be floating on that fab 36' Zimmermanlike lobster boat also. -- Skipper |
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Don,
The truth is very easy to verify. "Don White" wrote in message ... Starbucker wrote: I have a good idea why Harry and Chuck want to pretend it is not you. I do find it funny that Don and Kevin jump on the Harry bandwagon so quickly. I wonder if they really believe it or just want to say "Attaboy" as they high 5 Harry. We're just here to seek the truth....ot whatever passes for the truth here. |
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It is not "high fiving" that they are doing
"Skipper" wrote in message ... Starbucker wrote: I have a good idea why Harry and Chuck want to pretend it is not you. I do find it funny that Don and Kevin jump on the Harry bandwagon so quickly. I wonder if they really believe it or just want to say "Attaboy" as they high 5 Harry. I've not really paid attention to "Don's" musings, not much there. Who's "Kevin"? Could be that they high-five Krause because that's all they know? -- Skipper |
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Don,
Let's be honest, truth has nothing to do with it. If you were seeking the truth Harry's lies about his wife, his boat and his life would have offended you by now. "Don White" wrote in message ... Starbucker wrote: I have a good idea why Harry and Chuck want to pretend it is not you. I do find it funny that Don and Kevin jump on the Harry bandwagon so quickly. I wonder if they really believe it or just want to say "Attaboy" as they high 5 Harry. We're just here to seek the truth....ot whatever passes for the truth here. |
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Starbucker wrote:
Don, Let's be honest, truth has nothing to do with it. If you were seeking the truth Harry's lies about his wife, his boat and his life would have offended you by now. I haven't seen any proof that he has lied about above. I read a lot of bunk claiming that he did but no hard evidence. Innocent until proven guilty! |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote: Starbucker wrote: Don, Let's be honest, truth has nothing to do with it. If you were seeking the truth Harry's lies about his wife, his boat and his life would have offended you by now. I haven't seen any proof that he has lied about above. I read a lot of bunk claiming that he did but no hard evidence. Innocent until proven guilty! The right-wing trashmeisters here are alway upset when someone won't play by their rules. Starfocher Smithers' only purpose in rec.boats is to see if he can successfully "hector" me and a couple of others. As Yoda would say, dumb as a stone Don White is. Alway? ALWAY?? Sheesh!!! When I was reading Smithers' posts, I noticed... You noticed? Now that's is quite an accomplishment for a liberal. -- Skipper |
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Skipper wrote: wrote: I think "Psuedo" is pretty tame. Besides, he was never anything but a Psuedo Skipper in the first place. Out of about 100,000 posts to the NG, (only) a few hundred were boating related...or some bad advice about turning a boat into a floating bomb by lining the gunwales with portable gas cans. The rest were right wing "talking points" from national radio shows, and the occassional racist and/or anti-semitic comment. Congrats on your whiny bitchy personal remarks, Chucky. After all, this is the prevaricating rad/lib shyster that we are getting to know so very very well: http://tinyurl.com/8tt8k -- Skipper Congrats to you on finally becoming poisoned on your own manure stew, Psuedo. You have such a compelling need to find somebody to tear down that you turn yourself into an ENORMOUS LIAR.....(if you need that explained, I'll be happy to do so)....just to create a ruse for yakking on that I'm dishonest in business. Remember this from about 5 years or so ago? Skipper wrote: I've shared that tale with the NG previously. So, one more time... We became interested in two boats in the Seattle area a while back. One was a 53 Skookum and the other was a 48 Northcoast, two completely different boats. Chuck had offered to represent our interests for boats in this area. However, I felt an obligation to the brokers we had previously made contact with and continued negotiating with the Northcoast and Skookum brokers. The admiral preferred the Northcoast and I preferred the Skookum. A few weeks went by as the Admiral made convincing arguments for the Northcoast. I called the broken to make an offer and was told the boat had just been sold. Had we retained Chuck to represent our interests, I believe that disappointment could have been avoided. Two more weeks went by as I made the case for the Skookum in Anacortes. The Admiral finally relented and I called the listing broker. Good news, the boat was still available and as the boat had been for sale for over a year with no takers, the broker thought our offer would be accepted. He called the next day to say he had spoken with the owner's wife and that she had accepted the deal pending her husbands return (was ferrying a Nordhavn to Hawaii). We thought the deal was done. A week passed with no new information so I started calling daily. We were repeatedly told to rest assured and that the owner's return was just a "formality", and "his wife had accepted the offer". Well, we went through 4 weeks of this uncertainty, unable to schedule reservations for the flight out to close. Finally, we called one day to learn that the broker had just gone on vacation and the boat was sold to someone else for $10,000 more than we had offered and they were returning our check. We had been lied to and this guy was using our offer to conduct an auction, IMO. I also believe that had we hired Chuck to represent our interests this sad tale could have been avoided. End of Skipper wrote. I know I asked if you were lying then or lying now, and you chose "lying then". (It's inconsistent with your character to tell lies in order to compliment somebody). Even so, you frankly admit being a liar so you have balls the size of the NBA accusing somebody else of being dishonest. |
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"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... Hi, I've been frequenting a wonderful fishing forum full of great local folks, but I've been wishing for a similar board for boating. I've seen a few "Canadian" forums, but they all seem centered around the east (as is can.rec.boating). Is there a boating forum with a West-coast flavour? If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join? Lloyd Sumpter "Far Cove" Catalina 36 What would a "West Coast Boating Forum" have that this ng doesn't have? |
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Don,
Why don't you ask your good buddy to send you a copy of his Lobster Boat Registration papers. He did that for someone who questioned his Parker Ownership. "Don White" wrote in message ... Starbucker wrote: Don, Let's be honest, truth has nothing to do with it. If you were seeking the truth Harry's lies about his wife, his boat and his life would have offended you by now. I haven't seen any proof that he has lied about above. I read a lot of bunk claiming that he did but no hard evidence. Innocent until proven guilty! |
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Don can't challenge Harry, if he did then Don wouldn't have someone to
lookup to and emulate anymore. "Starbucker" wrote in message ... Don, Why don't you ask your good buddy to send you a copy of his Lobster Boat Registration papers. He did that for someone who questioned his Parker Ownership. "Don White" wrote in message ... Starbucker wrote: Don, Let's be honest, truth has nothing to do with it. If you were seeking the truth Harry's lies about his wife, his boat and his life would have offended you by now. I haven't seen any proof that he has lied about above. I read a lot of bunk claiming that he did but no hard evidence. Innocent until proven guilty! |
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Don is a nice guy looking for political support and Harry does provide that.
I would just be ashamed to know a buddy of mine would think I was so stupid as to believe these lies. A real buddy would at least acknowledge to me, that he was jerking the others, he would not expect me to swallow all the BS. I would find that insulting to my intelligence. "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... Don can't challenge Harry, if he did then Don wouldn't have someone to lookup to and emulate anymore. "Starbucker" wrote in message ... Don, Why don't you ask your good buddy to send you a copy of his Lobster Boat Registration papers. He did that for someone who questioned his Parker Ownership. "Don White" wrote in message ... Starbucker wrote: Don, Let's be honest, truth has nothing to do with it. If you were seeking the truth Harry's lies about his wife, his boat and his life would have offended you by now. I haven't seen any proof that he has lied about above. I read a lot of bunk claiming that he did but no hard evidence. Innocent until proven guilty! |
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Starbucker wrote:
Don, Why don't you ask your good buddy to send you a copy of his Lobster Boat Registration papers. He did that for someone who questioned his Parker Ownership. Why? I have no reason to doubt him. It's others here who require the proof. |
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Starbucker wrote:
Don is a nice guy looking for political support and Harry does provide that. I would just be ashamed to know a buddy of mine would think I was so stupid as to believe these lies. A real buddy would at least acknowledge to me, that he was jerking the others, he would not expect me to swallow all the BS. I would find that insulting to my intelligence. Keep on trollin'. This fish isn't biting. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Again, I point out: The right-wing trashmeisters here are alway upset when someone won't play by their rules. Starfocher Smithers' only purpose in rec.boats is to see if he can successfully "hector" me and a couple of others. The fact that I don't even see most of his posts REALLY annoys him. My guess is that I somehow figure into at least 75% of his posts. When I was reading Smithers' posts, I noticed that he hardly ever discussed himself or his life or his work or his family or his boat or even where he lived. Instead, he gets off by making comments about these aspects of other people's lives. There are a couple of other righties here who are the same way; everything about them is a big secret but everything about everyone else is grist for the mill. Ask yourself these questions: Do you know Smithers' real name? Do you know what brand and size of boat he has? Do you know where he keeps his boat? Do you know what he does for a living? Do you know the city in which he lives? Et cetera. Not that having that information is important. But it is important that the dicquehead very carefully and deliberately reveals nothing about himself. With all his alias and different handles, I sometimes wonder if he really knows who he is. It would get confusing. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote: Starbucker wrote: Don is a nice guy looking for political support and Harry does provide that. I would just be ashamed to know a buddy of mine would think I was so stupid as to believe these lies. A real buddy would at least acknowledge to me, that he was jerking the others, he would not expect me to swallow all the BS. I would find that insulting to my intelligence. Keep on trollin'. This fish isn't biting. Starfocher Smithers is simply looking for more posters in here he can play. He attempts to draw posters into conversation or amplification of their views, and then later uses that information to make sport or jest at the expense of the original poster. Yes, I've seen his work! |
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Harry,
I have published all of this information 1000's of times in here, you must have me filtered and you missed all my personal info. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Starbucker wrote: Don, Why don't you ask your good buddy to send you a copy of his Lobster Boat Registration papers. He did that for someone who questioned his Parker Ownership. Why? I have no reason to doubt him. It's others here who require the proof. Again, I point out: The right-wing trashmeisters here are alway upset when someone won't play by their rules. Starfocher Smithers' only purpose in rec.boats is to see if he can successfully "hector" me and a couple of others. The fact that I don't even see most of his posts REALLY annoys him. My guess is that I somehow figure into at least 75% of his posts. When I was reading Smithers' posts, I noticed that he hardly ever discussed himself or his life or his work or his family or his boat or even where he lived. Instead, he gets off by making comments about these aspects of other people's lives. There are a couple of other righties here who are the same way; everything about them is a big secret but everything about everyone else is grist for the mill. Ask yourself these questions: Do you know Smithers' real name? Do you know what brand and size of boat he has? Do you know where he keeps his boat? Do you know what he does for a living? Do you know the city in which he lives? Et cetera. Not that having that information is important. But it is important that the dicquehead very carefully and deliberately reveals nothing about himself. |
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Don,
You are the kind of wing man all NPD's looks for, someone who is just so happy to have a friend that he overlooks all of your faults and lies, and he just tells you how great you are. Harry is a joke to everyone, including Chuck Gould, but you are just so happy to have a buddy, you decide to overlook the obvious. No problem, Harry is glad to call you his buddy. "Don White" wrote in message ... Starbucker wrote: Don, Why don't you ask your good buddy to send you a copy of his Lobster Boat Registration papers. He did that for someone who questioned his Parker Ownership. Why? I have no reason to doubt him. It's others here who require the proof. |
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Have you noticed the historical NG stalkers are the ones constantly
demanding personal info, yet try to hide behind anonymous accounts? "Starbucker" wrote in message ... Harry, I have published all of this information 1000's of times in here, you must have me filtered and you missed all my personal info. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Starbucker wrote: Don, Why don't you ask your good buddy to send you a copy of his Lobster Boat Registration papers. He did that for someone who questioned his Parker Ownership. Why? I have no reason to doubt him. It's others here who require the proof. Again, I point out: The right-wing trashmeisters here are alway upset when someone won't play by their rules. Starfocher Smithers' only purpose in rec.boats is to see if he can successfully "hector" me and a couple of others. The fact that I don't even see most of his posts REALLY annoys him. My guess is that I somehow figure into at least 75% of his posts. When I was reading Smithers' posts, I noticed that he hardly ever discussed himself or his life or his work or his family or his boat or even where he lived. Instead, he gets off by making comments about these aspects of other people's lives. There are a couple of other righties here who are the same way; everything about them is a big secret but everything about everyone else is grist for the mill. Ask yourself these questions: Do you know Smithers' real name? Do you know what brand and size of boat he has? Do you know where he keeps his boat? Do you know what he does for a living? Do you know the city in which he lives? Et cetera. Not that having that information is important. But it is important that the dicquehead very carefully and deliberately reveals nothing about himself. |
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Starbucker wrote:
Don, You are the kind of wing man all NPD's looks for, someone who is just so happy to have a friend that he overlooks all of your faults and lies, and he just tells you how great you are. Harry is a joke to everyone, including Chuck Gould, but you are just so happy to have a buddy, you decide to overlook the obvious. No problem, Harry is glad to call you his buddy. Suppose I could make up a gang of sock puppets. Then I'd have a bunch of buddies. Do you recommend that course of action? |
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There is a reason why Harry wants personal information on people. I would
be very careful of giving Harry anything. "P Fritz" wrote in message ... Have you noticed the historical NG stalkers are the ones constantly demanding personal info, yet try to hide behind anonymous accounts? "Starbucker" wrote in message ... Harry, I have published all of this information 1000's of times in here, you must have me filtered and you missed all my personal info. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Starbucker wrote: Don, Why don't you ask your good buddy to send you a copy of his Lobster Boat Registration papers. He did that for someone who questioned his Parker Ownership. Why? I have no reason to doubt him. It's others here who require the proof. Again, I point out: The right-wing trashmeisters here are alway upset when someone won't play by their rules. Starfocher Smithers' only purpose in rec.boats is to see if he can successfully "hector" me and a couple of others. The fact that I don't even see most of his posts REALLY annoys him. My guess is that I somehow figure into at least 75% of his posts. When I was reading Smithers' posts, I noticed that he hardly ever discussed himself or his life or his work or his family or his boat or even where he lived. Instead, he gets off by making comments about these aspects of other people's lives. There are a couple of other righties here who are the same way; everything about them is a big secret but everything about everyone else is grist for the mill. Ask yourself these questions: Do you know Smithers' real name? Do you know what brand and size of boat he has? Do you know where he keeps his boat? Do you know what he does for a living? Do you know the city in which he lives? Et cetera. Not that having that information is important. But it is important that the dicquehead very carefully and deliberately reveals nothing about himself. |
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