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Hi,

I've been frequenting a wonderful fishing forum full of great local
folks, but I've been wishing for a similar board for boating. I've seen a
few "Canadian" forums, but they all seem centered around the east (as is
can.rec.boating). Is there a boating forum with a West-coast flavour?

If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join?

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36

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Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join?

You don't have one of the best records when it comes to getting it up.
Many of us remember your twirl with The Boats of Rec.Boats and the early
pull out.

--
Skipper

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Skipper wrote:
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join?

You don't have one of the best records when it comes to getting it up.
Many of us remember your twirl with The Boats of Rec.Boats and the early
pull out.

--
Skipper

Good work, Psuedo. Right away with the personal remarks. That should go
a long way toward resolving your expressed concern that the group is so
far OT.

Lloyd; You may as well decide to start a buggy whip factory. The era of
the internet forum has come and gone, killed off IMO by the search
engine.

If a guy wants to know why his outboard won't start, how to splice
3-strand,or when the salmon season is open in the Srait of Georgia,
he'll run a search engine. Going to a discussion group provides a ton
of conflicting advice- offered by people of varying crediblity and
experience, and no real way to vet who is talking through his/her arse.
The forum format brings in a bunch of non-boaters who turn it into a
chat room for the exchange of bitchy personal remarks, and extra-bitchy
personal remarks reserved for folks of either more liberal or
conservative political stripe. Look at the mess here in rec.boats. When
a boating related post gets 2-3 responses but a thread titled, "George
Bush is a _________" or "NG participant X is a _________" generates
150-200 name-calling exchnges *that* defines the character and tone of
the NG as it exists.

For gosh sakes, if you start one of these things maintain the ability
to moderate the worst trolls and most destructive posters. Rec.boats is
a prime example of people shelfishly hijacking a forum and filling it
with bull guano.

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wrote in message
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Lloyd; You may as well decide to start a buggy whip factory. The era of
the internet forum has come and gone, killed off IMO by the search
engine.



Good observation, Chuck. I had not thought of that. Rec.boats used to be a
depository of boating experience and helpful information. Now-a-days it is
an outlet for political bull****.

Eisboch

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:12:45 -0700, chuckgould.chuck wrote:


Skipper wrote:
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join?

You don't have one of the best records when it comes to getting it up.
Many of us remember your twirl with The Boats of Rec.Boats and the early
pull out.

--
Skipper

Good work, Psuedo. Right away with the personal remarks. That should go
a long way toward resolving your expressed concern that the group is so
far OT.

Lloyd; You may as well decide to start a buggy whip factory. The era of
the internet forum has come and gone, killed off IMO by the search
engine.


Probably true if all you want is advice. (OTOH, I'm trying to get the
modem running on my Linux laptop, and although there's THOUSANDS of
websites with "help", most are out-dated or just plain wrong)

But I now belong to a (gently moderated) fishing forum that's local, fun,
full of interesting, knowledgeable folks, and the main reason I'm now
fishing more than sailing. So it CAN be done!

And yes, I'd moderate it, and probably choose the members somewhat
(There's probably over a millions boaters in BC alone: add the Washington
ones like you, and there's several million. I'm guessing several have
computers, and would like to chat about boating...)

Lloyd

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Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

You don't have one of the best records when it comes to getting it up.
Many of us remember your twirl with The Boats of Rec.Boats and the early
pull out.

I'll be choosing my members somewhat. Don't worry: you WON'T be invited!

Interesting retort. Suppose that *is* your best defense when presented
with undisputed phacts. Also indicates what a phorum moderated by
someone with your track record would be like. As Mel Brooks said, "It's
good to be king."

--
Skipper

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:35:49 -0500, Skipper wrote:

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join?

You don't have one of the best records when it comes to getting it up.
Many of us remember your twirl with The Boats of Rec.Boats and the early
pull out.

I'll be choosing my members somewhat. Don't worry: you WON'T be invited!

Lloyd

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:12:45 -0700, chuckgould.chuck wrote:


Skipper wrote:
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join?

You don't have one of the best records when it comes to getting it up.
Many of us remember your twirl with The Boats of Rec.Boats and the early
pull out.

--
Skipper

Good work, Psuedo. Right away with the personal remarks. That should go
a long way toward resolving your expressed concern that the group is so
far OT.



Just another comment on Potential Members:

Note this this will be a forum for WEST COAST CANADA, with some interest
for what you Americans call the Pacific Northwest. So, that rules out
anyone from California, or east of the Rockies.

And THAT rules out virtually EVERYONE on this board, except Chuck.

I'd say that would get rid of all the childish name-calling and politics.

Lloyd

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Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

Just another comment on Potential Members:

Note this this will be a forum for WEST COAST CANADA, with some interest
for what you Americans call the Pacific Northwest. So, that rules out
anyone from California, or east of the Rockies.

And THAT rules out virtually EVERYONE on this board, except Chuck.

I'd say that would get rid of all the childish name-calling and politics.

That quite an enemies list you have there Lloyd. So, if the only member
of this forum that would be invited to attend your coronation is that
lying architect of personal destruction, Chucky. Why didn't you just
send him an email?

BTW, why is it you have no comment about my factual observation that you
abandoned the Rec.Boats pitcher site out of peak and put very little
effort into it?

--
Skipper

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In article , Lloyd Sumpter says...

Hi,

I've been frequenting a wonderful fishing forum full of great local
folks, but I've been wishing for a similar board for boating. I've seen a
few "Canadian" forums, but they all seem centered around the east (as is
can.rec.boating). Is there a boating forum with a West-coast flavour?

If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join?

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36

Put my boat picture up on it.

http://mk23.image.pbase.com/u42/etha...rticle2706.jpg

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Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
Hi,

snip

I've seen a few "Canadian" forums, but they all seem centered around
the east (as is
can.rec.boating). Is there a boating forum with a West-coast flavour?
snip...


make that centered around the 'center'...that is Ontario & Quebec.

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:08:22 -0700, Harry.Krause wrote:

In article , Lloyd Sumpter says...

Hi,

I've been frequenting a wonderful fishing forum full of great local
folks, but I've been wishing for a similar board for boating. I've seen a
few "Canadian" forums, but they all seem centered around the east (as is
can.rec.boating). Is there a boating forum with a West-coast flavour?

If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join?

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36

Put my boat picture up on it.

http://mk23.image.pbase.com/u42/etha...rticle2706.jpg

Sure, "Harry" - as soon as you move to Nanaimo (or at least can tell me
what a Squamish is!)

Lloyd

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:29:42 -0500, Skipper wrote:

wrote:

Skipper wrote:
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join?

You don't have one of the best records when it comes to getting it up.
Many of us remember your twirl with The Boats of Rec.Boats and the early
pull out.

Good work, Psuedo. Right away with the personal remarks. That should go
a long way toward resolving your expressed concern that the group is so
far OT.

IMO, the remarks WERE on topic and accurate. His bailout of the
Rec.Boats photo site was abrupt and motivated by peak.

Nope. My pullout was motivated my many personal attacks and a lack of
interest in boating in my area. Hence, my interest in a west-coast forum.
I'm a West-coast Canadian - you couldn't hope to understand.

Lloyd

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:25:21 -0700, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:08:22 -0700, Harry.Krause wrote:

In article , Lloyd Sumpter
says...

Hi,

I've been frequenting a wonderful fishing forum full of great local
folks, but I've been wishing for a similar board for boating. I've seen
a
few "Canadian" forums, but they all seem centered around the east (as is
can.rec.boating). Is there a boating forum with a West-coast flavour?

If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join?

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36

Put my boat picture up on it.

http://mk23.image.pbase.com/u42/etha...rticle2706.jpg

Sure, "Harry" - as soon as you move to Nanaimo (or at least can tell me
what a Squamish is!)

Come on - everybody knows what a Squamish is - it's a squished squash.

~~ sheesh ~~

I thought it was a squashed squid.

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:02:27 -0500, Skipper wrote:

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

Just another comment on Potential Members:

Note this this will be a forum for WEST COAST CANADA, with some interest
for what you Americans call the Pacific Northwest. So, that rules out
anyone from California, or east of the Rockies.

And THAT rules out virtually EVERYONE on this board, except Chuck.

I'd say that would get rid of all the childish name-calling and politics.

That quite an enemies list you have there Lloyd.

Not ememies. Just people who don't understand west-coast boating. When you
can tell me what a quallicum is (or who Todd Bertuzzi is), you'd be
welcome.

So, if the only member
of this forum that would be invited to attend your coronation is that
lying architect of personal destruction, Chucky. Why didn't you just
send him an email?

Because I was hoping I was wrong about the lack of West-Coast boaters. So
far, it looks like I'm right on.

BTW, why is it you have no comment about my factual

Nice to have your own little set of facts, Skippy. I'd like to visit your
Universe sometime - what's the required mizture of drugs?

observation that you
abandoned the Rec.Boats pitcher site out of peak and put very little
effort into it?

Answered in another post. Unlike you, I don't stay where I'm not wanted.

Lloyd

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Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

IMO, the remarks WERE on topic and accurate. His bailout of the
Rec.Boats photo site was abrupt and motivated by a fit of pique.

Nope. My pullout was motivated my many personal attacks and a lack of
interest in boating in my area. Hence, my interest in a west-coast forum.
I'm a West-coast Canadian - you couldn't hope to understand.

Oh, I do understand, pal. My comments about your abrupt abandonment of
the Rec.Boats site were spot on. As to comments about boating in your
area, I've initiated *many* posts about boating in the NW. Do you not
remember the Kodiak and Seattle trip reports?

--
Skipper

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So what sized outboard did you end up with for that inflatable, and did
performance meet your expectations?

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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

Just another comment on Potential Members:

Note this this will be a forum for WEST COAST CANADA, with some interest
for what you Americans call the Pacific Northwest. So, that rules out
anyone from California, or east of the Rockies.

And THAT rules out virtually EVERYONE on this board, except Chuck.

I'd say that would get rid of all the childish name-calling and politics.

That quite an enemies list you have there Lloyd. So, if the only member
of this forum that would be invited to attend your coronation is that
lying architect of personal destruction, Chucky. Why didn't you just
send him an email?

BTW, why is it you have no comment about my factual observation that you
abandoned the Rec.Boats pitcher site out of peak and put very little
effort into it?

--
Skipper


Out of peak?

Peak?

Hehehe.

Definitely not Skipper.

Maybe the real deal is vacationing on Pike's Pique. :-)

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wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

Just another comment on Potential Members:

Note this this will be a forum for WEST COAST CANADA, with some
interest
for what you Americans call the Pacific Northwest. So, that rules out
anyone from California, or east of the Rockies.

And THAT rules out virtually EVERYONE on this board, except Chuck.

I'd say that would get rid of all the childish name-calling and
politics.

That quite an enemies list you have there Lloyd. So, if the only member
of this forum that would be invited to attend your coronation is that
lying architect of personal destruction, Chucky. Why didn't you just
send him an email?

BTW, why is it you have no comment about my factual observation that
you
abandoned the Rec.Boats pitcher site out of peak and put very little
effort into it?

--
Skipper


Out of peak?

Peak?

Hehehe.

Definitely not Skipper.

Maybe the real deal is vacationing on Pike's Pique. :-)


Instead of constantly playing this little game of yours, just call him and
put this crap to rest already Chuck.

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*JimH* wrote:

Instead of constantly playing this little game of yours, just call him and
put this crap to rest already Chuck.

He doesn't need to call as he already knows it *is* Skipper. He's just
demonstrating his basic honesty for the group.

This is the Chucky that I know: http://tinyurl.com/8tt8k

--
Skipper

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Eisboch,
Do you feel the OT cut and paste have been a major contributor to the
political bull****?


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
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Lloyd; You may as well decide to start a buggy whip factory. The era of
the internet forum has come and gone, killed off IMO by the search
engine.



Good observation, Chuck. I had not thought of that. Rec.boats used to be
a
depository of boating experience and helpful information. Now-a-days it is
an outlet for political bull****.

Eisboch

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Skipper wrote:
wrote:

Skipper wrote:
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

If not, I'm thinking of setting one up. Anyone wanna join?

You don't have one of the best records when it comes to getting it up.
Many of us remember your twirl with The Boats of Rec.Boats and the early
pull out.

Good work, Psuedo. Right away with the personal remarks. That should go
a long way toward resolving your expressed concern that the group is so
far OT.

IMO, the remarks WERE on topic and accurate. His bailout of the
Rec.Boats photo site was abrupt and motivated by peak. His pure
abandonment allowed a spammer to take it over to promote his commercial
site. What did you find inaccurate in my remarks?

Accurate, Shmackurate Psuedo:

Lloyd posts that he is thinking of starting a forum for the Canadian
West Coast- something that wouldn't concern your sorry bee-hind on even
a single day of the year. However, what are you then compelled to do?
What is that you simply cannot resist doing? Why, it's make a bitchy
personal remark. Surprise (not)!

One could respond to every one of your posts with a long litany of
Skipper and Psuedo Skipper faux paus and foolishness in the NG......but
why bother?
Why make bitchy personal remarks an issue that doesn't concern you
because (1) you are not a boater and (2) except for charter fishing
down in the Gulf of CA on somebody else's boat, you rarely ever
ventured off the duck ponds of KS?

And then you wail that people are taking the NG off topic. Oh and
what's the other line? "Some people don't know the difference between
having something to say and having to say something". Others don't know
the difference between a useful, on-topic contribution and a bitchy
personal remark.

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*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

Just another comment on Potential Members:

Note this this will be a forum for WEST COAST CANADA, with some
interest
for what you Americans call the Pacific Northwest. So, that rules out
anyone from California, or east of the Rockies.

And THAT rules out virtually EVERYONE on this board, except Chuck.

I'd say that would get rid of all the childish name-calling and
politics.

That quite an enemies list you have there Lloyd. So, if the only member
of this forum that would be invited to attend your coronation is that
lying architect of personal destruction, Chucky. Why didn't you just
send him an email?

BTW, why is it you have no comment about my factual observation that
you
abandoned the Rec.Boats pitcher site out of peak and put very little
effort into it?

--
Skipper


Out of peak?

Peak?

Hehehe.

Definitely not Skipper.

Maybe the real deal is vacationing on Pike's Pique. :-)


Instead of constantly playing this little game of yours, just call him and
put this crap to rest already Chuck.


I'm not sure this directly concerns you, JimH- but based on the long
list of things this character has called me in the last few weeks I
think "Psuedo"
is pretty tame.

Besides, even if it is Dave Mann, (and it could be), he was never
anything but a Psuedo Skipper in the first place. Out of about 100,000
posts to the NG, a few hundred were boating related and those were
usually some bizarre comment that Bayliner built the best boat in the
world......(Even Bayliner doesn't make that claim).....or some bad
advice about turning a boat into a floating bomb by lining the gunwales
with portable gas cans. The rest were personal insults and remarks,
lists of right wing "talking points" from national radio shows, and the
occassional racist and/or anti-semitic comment.

As you well know, I don't go around looking for trouble but I am loathe
to put up with a guy dogging me through the NG starting attach threads,
posting funny pictures, and flaming every comment- on topic or not.

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wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

Just another comment on Potential Members:

Note this this will be a forum for WEST COAST CANADA, with some
interest
for what you Americans call the Pacific Northwest. So, that rules
out
anyone from California, or east of the Rockies.

And THAT rules out virtually EVERYONE on this board, except Chuck.

I'd say that would get rid of all the childish name-calling and
politics.

That quite an enemies list you have there Lloyd. So, if the only
member
of this forum that would be invited to attend your coronation is
that
lying architect of personal destruction, Chucky. Why didn't you just
send him an email?

BTW, why is it you have no comment about my factual observation that
you
abandoned the Rec.Boats pitcher site out of peak and put very little
effort into it?

--
Skipper


Out of peak?

Peak?

Hehehe.

Definitely not Skipper.

Maybe the real deal is vacationing on Pike's Pique. :-)


Instead of constantly playing this little game of yours, just call him
and
put this crap to rest already Chuck.


I'm not sure this directly concerns you, JimH- snip

Sure it does. Did you already forget your whopper of a lie when you
repeatedly accused me of being Skipper?

So why not put this crap to rest and call the real Skipper?

Besides, even if it is Dave Mann, (and it could be), he was never
anything but a Psuedo Skipper in the first place
snip

Ahh, the old Chuckie spins beings. I knew it would eventually surface. How
funny.

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" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

Just another comment on Potential Members:

Note this this will be a forum for WEST COAST CANADA, with some
interest
for what you Americans call the Pacific Northwest. So, that rules
out
anyone from California, or east of the Rockies.

And THAT rules out virtually EVERYONE on this board, except Chuck.

I'd say that would get rid of all the childish name-calling and
politics.

That quite an enemies list you have there Lloyd. So, if the only
member
of this forum that would be invited to attend your coronation is
that
lying architect of personal destruction, Chucky. Why didn't you
just
send him an email?

BTW, why is it you have no comment about my factual observation
that
you
abandoned the Rec.Boats pitcher site out of peak and put very
little
effort into it?

--
Skipper


Out of peak?

Peak?

Hehehe.

Definitely not Skipper.

Maybe the real deal is vacationing on Pike's Pique. :-)


Instead of constantly playing this little game of yours, just call him
and
put this crap to rest already Chuck.


I'm not sure this directly concerns you, JimH- snip

Sure it does. Did you already forget your whopper of a lie when you
repeatedly accused me of being Skipper?

So why not put this crap to rest and call the real Skipper?

Besides, even if it is Dave Mann, (and it could be), he was never
anything but a Psuedo Skipper in the first place
snip

Ahh, the old Chuckie spins begins. I knew it would eventually surface.
How funny.


edit spelling

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wrote:

IMO, the remarks WERE on topic and accurate. His bailout on the
Rec.Boats photo site was abrupt and motivated by pique. His pure
abandonment allowed a spammer to take it over and promote his commercial
site. What did you find inaccurate in my remarks?

Accurate, Shmackurate Psuedo:

One could respond to every one of your posts with a long litany of
Skipper and Psuedo Skipper faux paus and foolishness in the NG......but
why bother? Why make bitchy personal remarks an issue that doesn't
concern you because (1) you are not a boater and (2) except for
charter fishing down in the Gulf of CA on somebody else's boat, you
rarely ever ventured off the duck ponds of KS?

Some don't know the difference between a useful, on-topic contribution
and a bitchy personal remark.

Congrats on your whiny bitchy personal remarks, Chucky. After all, this
is the prevaricating rad/lib shyster that we are getting to know so very
very well:

http://tinyurl.com/8tt8k

--
Skipper

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*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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I'm not sure this directly concerns you, JimH- snip

Sure it does. Did you already forget your whopper of a lie when you
repeatedly accused me of being Skipper?

Let me assist you with one of the subtleties of the English laguage:

There is a difference between a lie and an observation:

A lie is a statement known to be untrue when made.

Example: "Chuck posted my home address and phone number to the
newsgroup! It was listed on that ad that he linked! He knew it was
listed on the ad, and that
was the only reason he posted it, to "out" my address and phone number!
The only reason it doesn't appear there if you check it now is that I
went into the website and edited the ad so my address and phone no
longer appear!"

When the ad never contained a home address and a phone number, and
there was no editing as claimed, that entire story qualifies as a
"lie". (As you finally admitted when explaining that you had been
"cornered" by your original false statement that the address and phone
number appeared in the ad).

Example: When "Skipper" reapears after a long absence and launches an
attack post with a line that reads,

"What do you think of this little gem?" and then brackets a quote with
a series of +++++++ marks top and bottom- and then when you use the
same opening line and the same brackets to offset a post several days
later, voicing a suspicion that JimH and Psuedo Skipper might be one
and the same is not a lie, it's an observation based on publicly
available evidence.

IIRC, somebody in the midst of that discussion said that opening post
with a reference to a "little gem" and then bracketing the quote with
++++++ signs had been a long standing personal trait of his.
Unfortunately, that party didn't furnish us with the name of the NG
where he routinely posts using that weird style. As far as I know, it
has only appeared in rec.boats twice- and only once by trhe party
involved. Assuming there is a NG where that party routinely posts with
a reference to a "gem" and then brackets quotes with +++++++'s, then
that statement would also be an observation, and not a lie.

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...
wrote:

IMO, the remarks WERE on topic and accurate. His bailout on the
Rec.Boats photo site was abrupt and motivated by pique. His pure
abandonment allowed a spammer to take it over and promote his commercial
site. What did you find inaccurate in my remarks?

Accurate, Shmackurate Psuedo:

One could respond to every one of your posts with a long litany of
Skipper and Psuedo Skipper faux paus and foolishness in the NG......but
why bother? Why make bitchy personal remarks an issue that doesn't
concern you because (1) you are not a boater and (2) except for
charter fishing down in the Gulf of CA on somebody else's boat, you
rarely ever ventured off the duck ponds of KS?

Some don't know the difference between a useful, on-topic contribution
and a bitchy personal remark.

Congrats on your whiny bitchy personal remarks, Chucky. After all, this
is the prevaricating rad/lib shyster that we are getting to know so very
very well:

http://tinyurl.com/8tt8k

--
Skipper

And after all his accusations about others being you he is now spinning his
story that this Skipper *most likely is* you. Hee-hee-hee.

This month long saga between Chuckles and you has been nothing short of
hysterical. He sure has had his shorts in a knot during that entire time.

The *real* Chuck Gould has been uncovered.

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Skipper wrote:
wrote:

IMO, the remarks WERE on topic and accurate. His bailout on the
Rec.Boats photo site was abrupt and motivated by pique. His pure
abandonment allowed a spammer to take it over and promote his commercial
site. What did you find inaccurate in my remarks?

Accurate, Shmackurate Psuedo:

One could respond to every one of your posts with a long litany of
Skipper and Psuedo Skipper faux paus and foolishness in the NG......but
why bother? Why make bitchy personal remarks an issue that doesn't
concern you because (1) you are not a boater and (2) except for
charter fishing down in the Gulf of CA on somebody else's boat, you
rarely ever ventured off the duck ponds of KS?

Some don't know the difference between a useful, on-topic contribution
and a bitchy personal remark.


You know, you really are screwed up enough to be Cave Mann, Psuedo.
Masterful snipping of the post in your response. That was a
particularly favorite dirty trick of the pre-stroke Skipper.

Congrats on your whiny bitchy personal remarks, Chucky. After all, this
is the prevaricating rad/lib shyster that we are getting to know so very
very well:

http://tinyurl.com/8tt8k

--
Skipper

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I'm not sure this directly concerns you, JimH- snip

Sure it does. Did you already forget your whopper of a lie when you
repeatedly accused me of being Skipper?

Let me assist you with one of the subtleties of the English laguage:

There is a difference between a lie and an observation:

snip

It was indeed an observation........at first.

However it soon became a lie when facts were presented to you that it could
not me yet you continued with the story.

So why not put this crap to rest and call the real Skipper?

So why don't you Chuck?


Besides, even if it is Dave Mann, (and it could be), he was never
anything but a Psuedo Skipper in the first place


Ahh, the old Chuckie spins begins. I knew it would eventually surface.
How funny.

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wrote:

I think "Psuedo" is pretty tame. Besides, he was never anything but
a Psuedo Skipper in the first place. Out of about 100,000
posts to the NG, (only) a few hundred were boating related...or some bad
advice about turning a boat into a floating bomb by lining the gunwales
with portable gas cans. The rest were right wing "talking points" from
national radio shows, and the occassional racist and/or anti-semitic
comment.

Congrats on your whiny bitchy personal remarks, Chucky. After all, this
is the prevaricating rad/lib shyster that we are getting to know so very
very well:

http://tinyurl.com/8tt8k


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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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I'm not sure this directly concerns you, JimH- snip

Sure it does. Did you already forget your whopper of a lie when you
repeatedly accused me of being Skipper?

Let me assist you with one of the subtleties of the English laguage:

There is a difference between a lie and an observation:

snip

It was indeed an observation........at first.

However it soon became a lie when facts were presented to you that it could
not me yet you continued with the story.

You seem to overlook the fact that when presented with evidence one has
the right to weigh that evidence against conflicting evidence and reach
an independent conclusion. When a jury renders a verdict that you
disagree with, do you refer to the jurors as "liars"?



So why not put this crap to rest and call the real Skipper?

So why don't you Chuck?


1) I no longer have Skipper's phone number. To the best of my
recollection, I met with Skipper in 1999 and again in 2000. I don't
keep junk contact information for 5-6 years. I was doing some stuff on
switchboard.com last week
and I got an "unlisted" hit for Dave Mann in Derby, KS. I can't blame
the guy, he makes enemies for a hobby.

2) I have nothing to say to Dave Mann. If he is indeed the culprit
behind the current wave of attack posts, I have less than nothing to
say to him.

3) I do have your phone number, Jim. Don't hover over the phone waiting
for it to ring. :-)

Then again, there is some "evidence" that Dave Mann died in Kansas back
in 2004. I though about posting the obituary here, but as you know that
would create some complications on the East Coast. :-)

Now, if Dave is indeed alive and well, I wonder where all those
contributions to the Dave Mann Memorial Fund are going?

My favorite photo on the site is the weasly little shameful pose in the
lower right hand corner. Any guy that fakes his own death to set up a
memorial fund
probably does want to stay as far out of sight as possible.


http://www.wideopencycle.com/davemann.htm

(OK. I'm just kidding around here. Different Cave Mann, but it's a
funny coincidence.)

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*JimH* wrote:

And after all his accusations about others being you he is now
spinning his story that this Skipper *most likely is* you.
Hee-hee-hee.

This month long saga between Chuckles and you has been nothing short
of hysterical. He sure has had his shorts in a knot during that
entire time.

The *real* Chuck Gould has been uncovered.

He's doing the "uncovering" to himself. That's the thing about scumbags.
Does he expect his "non-boater" comments to go without a response?
Remember that post from someone bragging about how they sat around
drinking beers with their wives telling stories and laughing at
"skippy"?

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wrote:

Congrats on your whiny bitchy personal remarks, Chucky. After all, this
is the prevaricating rad/lib shyster that we are getting to know so very
very well:

http://tinyurl.com/8tt8k

You know, you really are screwed up enough to be Cave Mann, Psuedo.
Masterful snipping of the post in your response. That was a
particularly favorite dirty trick of the pre-stroke Skipper.

Snipping for clarity, Chucky. It did not change meaning of your
comments. Not a "dirty trick" at all.

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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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I'm not sure this directly concerns you, JimH- snip

Sure it does. Did you already forget your whopper of a lie when you
repeatedly accused me of being Skipper?

Let me assist you with one of the subtleties of the English laguage:

There is a difference between a lie and an observation:

snip

It was indeed an observation........at first.

However it soon became a lie when facts were presented to you that it
could
not me yet you continued with the story.

You seem to overlook the fact that when presented with evidence one has
the right to weigh that evidence against conflicting evidence and reach
an independent conclusion. When a jury renders a verdict that you
disagree with, do you refer to the jurors as "liars"?



Spin it any way you want Chuck. The bottom line is that it switched from
observation to lie after facts were presented.



So why not put this crap to rest and call the real Skipper?

So why don't you Chuck?


1) I no longer have Skipper's phone number. snip

Then email him and request it from him. Perhaps others here still have it
and could email it to you.

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wrote:

http://www.wideopencycle.com/davemann.htm

Good, now we get to see pictures of that lovely Zimmermanlike lobster
boat.

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Harry Krause wrote:

Good, now we get to see pictures of that lovely Zimmermanlike lobster
boat.

Here's an actual photo: http://tinyurl.com/8zfps

Thought so.

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It took about 5 seconds to Google up Skippers address and phone number. What
kind of game do you suppose Chuck Gould is playing?

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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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I'm not sure this directly concerns you, JimH- snip

Sure it does. Did you already forget your whopper of a lie when you
repeatedly accused me of being Skipper?

Let me assist you with one of the subtleties of the English laguage:

There is a difference between a lie and an observation:

snip

It was indeed an observation........at first.

However it soon became a lie when facts were presented to you that it
could
not me yet you continued with the story.

You seem to overlook the fact that when presented with evidence one has
the right to weigh that evidence against conflicting evidence and reach
an independent conclusion. When a jury renders a verdict that you
disagree with, do you refer to the jurors as "liars"?



Spin it any way you want Chuck. The bottom line is that it switched from
observation to lie after facts were presented.



So why not put this crap to rest and call the real Skipper?

So why don't you Chuck?


1) I no longer have Skipper's phone number. snip

Then email him and request it from him. Perhaps others here still have it
and could email it to you.