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*JimH* wrote:


All I did was join the Do Not Call register and I have not been bothered
since.

I did the same when it first was available. Some telemarketers choose
ignore it.

Dan


Then get their name, number and document the call. Then send the
information to your State's Attorney General.

You may be eligible for monetary retribution for the violation. We have
collected over $900 so far for violations of that law.



I've asked them for their information. Somehow the call is disconnected
and they never call back.

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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:57:34 -0700, jps wrote:

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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:02:29 -0700, jps wrote:

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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:58:19 -0700, jps wrote:

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I would say that yes, the chances of being killed by bad guys is
higher than being killed driving across town, but if you pay
attention, trust your buddies and follow the lead of your Senior NCOs
- stay sharp, you'll be just fine.

If your grandchild weren't as smart as you'd like and couldn't
specialize in something that'd keep them out of combat, how could you
possibly advise them to put themselves in harm's way for an idiotic war
such as the one we're presently engaged?

Um...so what? What's smart got to do with it? Lot's of "smart"
people are combat soldiers. Lot's of "smart" people are fighter
jocks, helicopter pilots, SEALS, RECONN, Rangers...it's a uninformed
comment.

I certainly wouldn't want that on my conscience, especially if they
ended up being shooting practice for some freakin' insurgent in Baghdad.

Conscience has nothing to do with it. It's all about Fate and how
your particular hand is dealt. Would your "conscience" be affected if
you sent your grandchild down to the corner 7-11 for a gallon of milk
and said child was run over by a bus?

I'm into making my own luck and my own fate.

You don't make your own fate - your number has already been drawn,
its' just a question of when it's played.

All you are doing is playing a role.

If the moon's alignment has something to do with it, fine. I'm not
counting on it.

Nothing to do with the moon - it's like philosophy or something. :)

That's like nature/nurture. Some claim it's all one, some claim it's
all the other. Those of us who are moderate in our views think it's
somewhere between, eh?

On that we totally agree. It is a combination of both and anybody who
has adopted children will tell you that.

It's my view that I have lots of input into my fate, it's an interactive
thing. You are welcome to consider your fate predetermined.

I don't.

So you don't plan on death then? You don't have life insurance
policies betting that you will live longer than the actuaries say you
will?

Wow, what' s your secret? And how do I get some of whatever it is
that is going to prevent you from becoming worm food?

Fate isn't just one's demise.

jps

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Hey - my flower pot with the mini-palm tree talks to me all the time.


Doug Kanter wrote:
That's you, though. :)


You're just jealous because the voices like ME better!

DSK

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In article ,
says...
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 00:22:41 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:57:34 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:02:29 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:58:19 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

I would say that yes, the chances of being killed by bad guys is
higher than being killed driving across town, but if you pay
attention, trust your buddies and follow the lead of your Senior NCOs
- stay sharp, you'll be just fine.

If your grandchild weren't as smart as you'd like and couldn't
specialize in something that'd keep them out of combat, how could you
possibly advise them to put themselves in harm's way for an idiotic war
such as the one we're presently engaged?

Um...so what? What's smart got to do with it? Lot's of "smart"
people are combat soldiers. Lot's of "smart" people are fighter
jocks, helicopter pilots, SEALS, RECONN, Rangers...it's a uninformed
comment.

I certainly wouldn't want that on my conscience, especially if they
ended up being shooting practice for some freakin' insurgent in Baghdad.

Conscience has nothing to do with it. It's all about Fate and how
your particular hand is dealt. Would your "conscience" be affected if
you sent your grandchild down to the corner 7-11 for a gallon of milk
and said child was run over by a bus?

I'm into making my own luck and my own fate.

You don't make your own fate - your number has already been drawn,
its' just a question of when it's played.

All you are doing is playing a role.

If the moon's alignment has something to do with it, fine. I'm not
counting on it.

Nothing to do with the moon - it's like philosophy or something. :)

That's like nature/nurture. Some claim it's all one, some claim it's
all the other. Those of us who are moderate in our views think it's
somewhere between, eh?

On that we totally agree. It is a combination of both and anybody who
has adopted children will tell you that.

It's my view that I have lots of input into my fate, it's an interactive
thing. You are welcome to consider your fate predetermined.

I don't.

So you don't plan on death then? You don't have life insurance
policies betting that you will live longer than the actuaries say you
will?

Wow, what' s your secret? And how do I get some of whatever it is
that is going to prevent you from becoming worm food?

Fate isn't just one's demise.

Ah, so you admit it exists then?

I don't deny fate, but apparently, unlike you, I think it's malleable
just like luck.

Fate to me is the combination of our natural behavior (what we were when
we came out) and what we make of it. Some portion of a person's fate
(the odds or success or failure) is indeed predetermined but in my view
each person has a lot of say (as in breadth of possibilities) in how
their path is played out.

Think Colin Powell and Ted Kazinsky.

jps

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In article ,
says...
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 11:43:52 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 00:22:41 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:57:34 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:02:29 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:58:19 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

I would say that yes, the chances of being killed by bad guys is
higher than being killed driving across town, but if you pay
attention, trust your buddies and follow the lead of your Senior NCOs
- stay sharp, you'll be just fine.

If your grandchild weren't as smart as you'd like and couldn't
specialize in something that'd keep them out of combat, how could you
possibly advise them to put themselves in harm's way for an idiotic war
such as the one we're presently engaged?

Um...so what? What's smart got to do with it? Lot's of "smart"
people are combat soldiers. Lot's of "smart" people are fighter
jocks, helicopter pilots, SEALS, RECONN, Rangers...it's a uninformed
comment.

I certainly wouldn't want that on my conscience, especially if they
ended up being shooting practice for some freakin' insurgent in Baghdad.

Conscience has nothing to do with it. It's all about Fate and how
your particular hand is dealt. Would your "conscience" be affected if
you sent your grandchild down to the corner 7-11 for a gallon of milk
and said child was run over by a bus?

I'm into making my own luck and my own fate.

You don't make your own fate - your number has already been drawn,
its' just a question of when it's played.

All you are doing is playing a role.

If the moon's alignment has something to do with it, fine. I'm not
counting on it.

Nothing to do with the moon - it's like philosophy or something. :)

That's like nature/nurture. Some claim it's all one, some claim it's
all the other. Those of us who are moderate in our views think it's
somewhere between, eh?

On that we totally agree. It is a combination of both and anybody who
has adopted children will tell you that.

It's my view that I have lots of input into my fate, it's an interactive
thing. You are welcome to consider your fate predetermined.

I don't.

So you don't plan on death then? You don't have life insurance
policies betting that you will live longer than the actuaries say you
will?

Wow, what' s your secret? And how do I get some of whatever it is
that is going to prevent you from becoming worm food?

Fate isn't just one's demise.

Ah, so you admit it exists then?

I don't deny fate, but apparently, unlike you, I think it's malleable
just like luck.

Fate to me is the combination of our natural behavior (what we were when
we came out) and what we make of it. Some portion of a person's fate
(the odds or success or failure) is indeed predetermined but in my view
each person has a lot of say (as in breadth of possibilities) in how
their path is played out.

Think Colin Powell and Ted Kazinsky.

I think we agree more than disagree.

In my view, you only have so many choices to make. At any given nexus
or confluence of events, you can go right, left or foreward but you
can't backup - what's happened happened and you move on from there.

Where I think we diverge is in the number of choices. I don't believe
that anyone is given an infinite amount of choice. Now having said
that, one can make the most of the choice (or decision or what one had
been handed) and do well - I just don't believe there in an infinite
amount of choice available.

We make choices every day. You can diverge from your fate (trajectory)
at any moment. Our lives are the result of choices we make every day.
Each one has the capability of altering our fate to some degree, some
more than others.

I don't think of your definition as fate, I think of it as probability.

jps