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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Got mail from the military today, asking me to rejoin the reserve.

I should reply with the names and addresses of the right-wing warmongers
here...they're the ones that should be re-upping.




A while back I got a phone call asking to take a survey about the war. They
asked some general questions then zoomed in on if I had any teenagers, when
I said that I did, the line changed to "Would I talk to them about about the
military", Yup recruiters. They then got real specific about "would you
encourage your child to enlist?" When I replied that the only way I would
encouage my kids, was IF GWB's twins enlisted FIRST !!!!
They hung up on me.........

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Gorf wrote:
A while back I got a phone call asking to take a survey about the war. They
asked some general questions then zoomed in on if I had any teenagers, when
I said that I did, the line changed to "Would I talk to them about about the
military", Yup recruiters.

Now that's scary. I heard on the news the other day that the U.S. Army
is spending $50 millions + to acquire & maintain a database of
'recruitable' high school & college kids.

If a draft is enacted, I hope they take Republican kids first.

DSK

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:13:25 -0400, DSK wrote:

Gorf wrote:
A while back I got a phone call asking to take a survey about the war. They
asked some general questions then zoomed in on if I had any teenagers, when
I said that I did, the line changed to "Would I talk to them about about the
military", Yup recruiters.

Now that's scary. I heard on the news the other day that the U.S. Army
is spending $50 millions + to acquire & maintain a database of
'recruitable' high school & college kids.

If a draft is enacted, I hope they take Republican kids first.

DSK

That's quite logical.

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

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"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:13:25 -0400, DSK wrote:

Gorf wrote:
A while back I got a phone call asking to take a survey about the war.
They
asked some general questions then zoomed in on if I had any teenagers,
when
I said that I did, the line changed to "Would I talk to them about
about the
military", Yup recruiters.

Now that's scary. I heard on the news the other day that the U.S. Army
is spending $50 millions + to acquire & maintain a database of
'recruitable' high school & college kids.

If a draft is enacted, I hope they take Republican kids first.

DSK

That's quite logical.

You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?


--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

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That's quite logical.


P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?

Hey John H, I bet you save a lot of money, not needing toilet paper with
this guy following you around.

DSK

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:
That's quite logical.

P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of
one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?

Hey John H, I bet you save a lot of money, not needing toilet paper with
this guy following you around.

DSK



Fritz, apparently, is too stupid to understand *why* thinking Americans
are calling for a draft, with no exemptions except for serious
disability. It has something to do with making sure the sons and
daughters of the wealthy also are exposed to death the same as the sons
and daughters of the poor. When you thousands of rich kids over in Iraq
driving unarmored gasolines and dying as a result of roadside
explosions, Bush's base will force him to end the war.


When I was facing the draft for the VN war, one of the slogans of the day
was:
"The way to end this war is to draft the rich kids right along with everyone
else, instead letting them get off with cushy Reserve duty"
Yup GWB was one of those rich kids.....

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DSK wrote:
That's quite logical.


P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?

Hey John H, I bet you save a lot of money, not needing toilet paper with
this guy following you around.

DSK

Yeah, it used to be JimH that Fritz had his nose stuck up. Jim's kinda
sorta quieted down, so Fritz needs someone as annoying as he is, so
he's taken up with John Herring.

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:36:12 -0400, "P Fritz"
wrote:


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:13:25 -0400, DSK wrote:

Gorf wrote:
A while back I got a phone call asking to take a survey about the war.
They
asked some general questions then zoomed in on if I had any teenagers,
when
I said that I did, the line changed to "Would I talk to them about
about the
military", Yup recruiters.

Now that's scary. I heard on the news the other day that the U.S. Army
is spending $50 millions + to acquire & maintain a database of
'recruitable' high school & college kids.

If a draft is enacted, I hope they take Republican kids first.

DSK

That's quite logical.

You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?


--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

I *have* noticed that. Of course, if there were a draft, they'd be complaining
about the military a lot more!

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:09:33 -0400, DSK wrote:

That's quite logical.


P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?

Hey John H, I bet you save a lot of money, not needing toilet paper with
this guy following you around.

DSK

Go personal - quickly! Most Kevinesque of you, but I can see why.

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

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DSK wrote:
Gorf wrote:

A while back I got a phone call asking to take a survey about the
war. They
asked some general questions then zoomed in on if I had any teenagers,
when
I said that I did, the line changed to "Would I talk to them about
about the
military", Yup recruiters.


Now that's scary. I heard on the news the other day that the U.S. Army
is spending $50 millions + to acquire & maintain a database of
'recruitable' high school & college kids.

If a draft is enacted, I hope they take Republican kids first.

DSK


I wouldn't count on it. It would be a good opportunity for them to
reduce the ranks of more enlightened citizens.

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:33:33 GMT, "Gorf" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:
That's quite logical.

P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of
one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?

Hey John H, I bet you save a lot of money, not needing toilet paper with
this guy following you around.

DSK



Fritz, apparently, is too stupid to understand *why* thinking Americans
are calling for a draft, with no exemptions except for serious
disability. It has something to do with making sure the sons and
daughters of the wealthy also are exposed to death the same as the sons
and daughters of the poor. When you thousands of rich kids over in Iraq
driving unarmored gasolines and dying as a result of roadside
explosions, Bush's base will force him to end the war.


When I was facing the draft for the VN war, one of the slogans of the day
was:
"The way to end this war is to draft the rich kids right along with everyone
else, instead letting them get off with cushy Reserve duty"
Yup GWB was one of those rich kids.....


I thought your slogan was, "We won't go, and you can't make us!"

Most of us went.

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

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On 20 Oct 2005 12:56:14 -0700, wrote:


DSK wrote:
That's quite logical.


P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?

Hey John H, I bet you save a lot of money, not needing toilet paper with
this guy following you around.

DSK

Yeah, it used to be JimH that Fritz had his nose stuck up. Jim's kinda
sorta quieted down, so Fritz needs someone as annoying as he is, so
he's taken up with John Herring.

Anally fixated? Yup.

Were you punished too severely during your potty training?

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

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"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:09:33 -0400, DSK wrote:

That's quite logical.


P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of
one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?

Hey John H, I bet you save a lot of money, not needing toilet paper with
this guy following you around.

DSK

Go personal - quickly! Most Kevinesque of you, but I can see why.

Typical response when a liebral gets skewered.


--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:33:33 GMT, "Gorf" wrote:

"The way to end this war is to draft the rich kids right along with everyone
else, instead letting them get off with cushy Reserve duty"
Yup GWB was one of those rich kids.....

Bush was above even the rich kids. He got into the reserves, then
didn't even have to do that.

bb

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"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 20 Oct 2005 12:56:14 -0700, wrote:


DSK wrote:
That's quite logical.


P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of
one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?

Hey John H, I bet you save a lot of money, not needing toilet paper
with
this guy following you around.

DSK

Yeah, it used to be JimH that Fritz had his nose stuck up. Jim's kinda
sorta quieted down, so Fritz needs someone as annoying as he is, so
he's taken up with John Herring.

Anally fixated? Yup.

Were you punished too severely during your potty training?

He's fixated on harry's ass.


--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

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PocoLoco wrote:
On 20 Oct 2005 12:56:14 -0700, wrote:


DSK wrote:
That's quite logical.


P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?

Hey John H, I bet you save a lot of money, not needing toilet paper with
this guy following you around.

DSK

Yeah, it used to be JimH that Fritz had his nose stuck up. Jim's kinda
sorta quieted down, so Fritz needs someone as annoying as he is, so
he's taken up with John Herring.

Anally fixated? Yup.

Were you punished too severely during your potty training?

Again!! You're getting close to your all time high in the in the
mentally unstable department. ALMOST to up to your "Harry, you're a
****ing liar" status. You need help.

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PocoLoco wrote:
On 20 Oct 2005 12:56:14 -0700, wrote:


DSK wrote:
That's quite logical.


P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?

Hey John H, I bet you save a lot of money, not needing toilet paper with
this guy following you around.

DSK

Yeah, it used to be JimH that Fritz had his nose stuck up. Jim's kinda
sorta quieted down, so Fritz needs someone as annoying as he is, so
he's taken up with John Herring.

Anally fixated? Yup.

Were you punished too severely during your potty training?

Get personal, how Fritzesque of you, but I can see why.

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
Gorf wrote:
A while back I got a phone call asking to take a survey about the war.
They
asked some general questions then zoomed in on if I had any teenagers,
when
I said that I did, the line changed to "Would I talk to them about about
the
military", Yup recruiters.

Now that's scary. I heard on the news the other day that the U.S. Army is
spending $50 millions + to acquire & maintain a database of 'recruitable'
high school & college kids.

If a draft is enacted, I hope they take Republican kids first.

DSK


Republican kids? You liberals are real idiots.

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On 20 Oct 2005 13:35:14 -0700, wrote:


PocoLoco wrote:
On 20 Oct 2005 12:56:14 -0700, wrote:


DSK wrote:
That's quite logical.


P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?

Hey John H, I bet you save a lot of money, not needing toilet paper with
this guy following you around.

DSK

Yeah, it used to be JimH that Fritz had his nose stuck up. Jim's kinda
sorta quieted down, so Fritz needs someone as annoying as he is, so
he's taken up with John Herring.

Anally fixated? Yup.

Were you punished too severely during your potty training?

Get personal, how Fritzesque of you, but I can see why.

Hee, hee. (get it?)

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

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Dan J.S. wrote:
Republican kids? You liberals are real idiots.


What a logical, fact-based, well-reasoned response.

DSK

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P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of
one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?


OK now quote any part of any of my posts that have "bashed the military"
and when you finish with that, quote any part where I "called for a draft."

And when you are finished with that, tell us about *YOUR* service in the
U.S. military.



Fritz, apparently, is too stupid to understand *why* thinking Americans
are calling for a draft

Malarkey, "thinking Americans" are not at all calling for a draft.
A draftee military cannot perform the jobs that our current policy calls
for them to do.




When I was facing the draft for the VN war, one of the slogans of the day
was:
"The way to end this war is to draft the rich kids right along with everyone
else, instead letting them get off with cushy Reserve duty"
Yup GWB was one of those rich kids.....



PocoLoco wrote:
I thought your slogan was, "We won't go, and you can't make us!"

Most of us went.


Because you thought Nixon was a great leader and an honest man?

I volunteered for the U.S. Navy not long after the Iranians took our
embassy hostage, and served for eight years.

Douglas King, ex BT1(SW) U.S.N.

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"PocoLoco" wrote in message

Were you punished too severely during your potty training?


John, you're current line of discourse makes an extremely unreliable
rhetorical foundation, inasmuch as we have no indication or confirmation
that bassie has had the requisite experience.

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:00:05 -0400, DSK wrote:

P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out of
one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?


OK now quote any part of any of my posts that have "bashed the military"
and when you finish with that, quote any part where I "called for a draft."

And when you are finished with that, tell us about *YOUR* service in the
U.S. military.



Fritz, apparently, is too stupid to understand *why* thinking Americans
are calling for a draft

Malarkey, "thinking Americans" are not at all calling for a draft.
A draftee military cannot perform the jobs that our current policy calls
for them to do.




When I was facing the draft for the VN war, one of the slogans of the day
was:
"The way to end this war is to draft the rich kids right along with everyone
else, instead letting them get off with cushy Reserve duty"
Yup GWB was one of those rich kids.....



PocoLoco wrote:
I thought your slogan was, "We won't go, and you can't make us!"

Most of us went.


Because you thought Nixon was a great leader and an honest man?

I volunteered for the U.S. Navy not long after the Iranians took our
embassy hostage, and served for eight years.

Douglas King, ex BT1(SW) U.S.N.

Good for you!

When I was drafted, I wasn't thinking much of Nixon. I was thinking of a trip I
was scheduled to take to Pretoria, South Africa. I didn't get to go.

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:13:35 -0400, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


"PocoLoco" wrote in message

Were you punished too severely during your potty training?


John, you're current line of discourse makes an extremely unreliable
rhetorical foundation, inasmuch as we have no indication or confirmation
that bassie has had the requisite experience.


Note how well your post fits the title of this thread!

Oh, and I, after appropriate consideration, agree with your finding.

Perhaps the requisite experience is now occurring?

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

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Kevin,
You do have to admit, you really do have an anal fixation.


wrote in message
ups.com...

PocoLoco wrote:
On 20 Oct 2005 12:56:14 -0700, wrote:


DSK wrote:
That's quite logical.


P Fritz wrote:
You ever notice it is always the liebrals bashing the military out
of one
side of their mouth, and calling for a draft out of the other?

Hey John H, I bet you save a lot of money, not needing toilet paper
with
this guy following you around.

DSK

Yeah, it used to be JimH that Fritz had his nose stuck up. Jim's kinda
sorta quieted down, so Fritz needs someone as annoying as he is, so
he's taken up with John Herring.

Anally fixated? Yup.

Were you punished too severely during your potty training?

Get personal, how Fritzesque of you, but I can see why.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I saw a military recruitment TV commercial the other day, in which a
parent was sort of asked, "if your child asks about going in the military,
what would you say?" kind of thing. Those weren't the exact words, but
close enough. The idea was that parents should have "information" so they
can answer their kids' questions and help them decide upon the military.


This newsgroup and it's political discussions has caused me to think about
something that never crossed my mind. I need to ask my father (retired air
force pilot) why he and my grandfather (army, infantry) never encouraged me
to join the military. It will be interesting to know if my father thinks
his grandson should join the military.

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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:26:35 GMT, "Bryan" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I saw a military recruitment TV commercial the other day, in which a
parent was sort of asked, "if your child asks about going in the military,
what would you say?" kind of thing. Those weren't the exact words, but
close enough. The idea was that parents should have "information" so they
can answer their kids' questions and help them decide upon the military.


This newsgroup and it's political discussions has caused me to think about
something that never crossed my mind. I need to ask my father (retired air
force pilot) why he and my grandfather (army, infantry) never encouraged me
to join the military. It will be interesting to know if my father thinks
his grandson should join the military.


Were you a wayward lout?


--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant:
It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
Dan J.S. wrote:
Republican kids? You liberals are real idiots.

What a logical, fact-based, well-reasoned response.

DSK


First, how do you respond the the fact you liberals want a draft. I served
in the Marines in 91, I volunteered and I wanted to do what I did. How many
of you have actually served?

If the Marines would take my fat ass back right now, I would go in a heart
beat!

Volunteers that want to be where the action is, live longer, because they
are good at what they do. Draftees do not want to be there, hence will
commit more mistakes and put themselves and others in danger.

Do you understand that WE WANT to be in Iraq because we see the bigger
picture?

Stability in middleast is probably the most important issue at hand.
Especially with Iran developing nuclear technology.

Please do not speak for the rest of us if you have never served a day in
your life. You have no idea what you are talking about. And that is what you
liberals are good at. Talk - no action.

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:26:35 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I saw a military recruitment TV commercial the other day, in which a
parent was sort of asked, "if your child asks about going in the
military,
what would you say?" kind of thing. Those weren't the exact words, but
close enough. The idea was that parents should have "information" so
they
can answer their kids' questions and help them decide upon the military.

This newsgroup and it's political discussions has caused me to think about
something that never crossed my mind. I need to ask my father (retired
air
force pilot) why he and my grandfather (army, infantry) never encouraged
me
to join the military. It will be interesting to know if my father thinks
his grandson should join the military.

I wouldn't hesitate to advise any grandchildren of mine to join the
military if they asked me for my advice.

If they asked you why you recommend it, especially at this specific point in
history, what would you tell them?

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
Gorf wrote:
A while back I got a phone call asking to take a survey about the war.
They
asked some general questions then zoomed in on if I had any teenagers,
when
I said that I did, the line changed to "Would I talk to them about about
the
military", Yup recruiters.

Now that's scary. I heard on the news the other day that the U.S. Army is
spending $50 millions + to acquire & maintain a database of 'recruitable'
high school & college kids.

If a draft is enacted, I hope they take Republican kids first.

DSK


This link leads to a way of opting out of the database.
http://www.leavemychildalone.org/ind...t&contentid=63

I suspect all it does is stop the telemarketing, which might save the
gullible. My son knows how to handle telemarketers of all types, so I'm not
too worried. "Wait...before you continue....can I touch my genitals while
you're speaking to me?" Produces in instantaneous hangup.

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Dan J.S. wrote:
First, how do you respond the the fact you liberals want a draft.

1- I am not a liberal
2- "Liberals" don't want a draft, nor do I.

... I served
in the Marines in 91, I volunteered and I wanted to do what I did. How many
of you have actually served?


I did, don't know who else you might be talking about. Maybe Rove,
Cheney, Libby, Limbaugh, etc etc?


If the Marines would take my fat ass back right now, I would go in a heart
beat!


News flash- you can lose weight. Of course, then you'd have to put your
money where your mouth is.

Not only that, If you were in the Marines in 1991, then you're young
enough to be giving yourself pretty severe health problems by being
overweight (not that it's good for you at any age).



Do you understand that WE WANT to be in Iraq because we see the bigger
picture?


Not at all. In fact, it seems very likely that *you* want the U.S.
military to be in Iraq because you've been consistantly & flagrantly
lied to.



Stability in middleast is probably the most important issue at hand.
Especially with Iran developing nuclear technology.


Now there, we totally agree. So why are you supporting Bush & Cheney's
work at destabilizing the Middle East, and their undermining of all
previous serious international attempts to reign in Iran's nuclear program?



Please do not speak for the rest of us if you have never served a day in
your life. You have no idea what you are talking about. And that is what you
liberals are good at. Talk - no action.

Yeah, I guess that's why you address a post like this to me...

DSK

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Now that's scary. I heard on the news the other day that the U.S. Army is
spending $50 millions + to acquire & maintain a database of 'recruitable'
high school & college kids.


Doug Kanter wrote:
This link leads to a way of opting out of the database.
http://www.leavemychildalone.org/ind...t&contentid=63

I suspect all it does is stop the telemarketing, which might save the
gullible. My son knows how to handle telemarketers of all types, so I'm not
too worried. "Wait...before you continue....can I touch my genitals while
you're speaking to me?" Produces in instantaneous hangup.



That's cool. It would take a teenager to think of that.

We got this 'anti-telemarketer' phone that releases an electronic beep,
it's supposed to signal auto dialers that this is an inactive number. It
has reduced the number of calls we get. But I figured out that you can
cue it to make several gawd-awful squawks & WHEEP-WHEEP-WHEEPs etc etc,
and so I've been pretending to be interested in their offer, and then
holding the phone away from my ear and giving it to them. Then I
apologize and "try" to continue the deal, just to see how long they'll
stick with it. Poor suckers.

The one gal who had the persistence to stick thru ten minutes of this
and we were at the point where I was about to agree to her deal, so I
shouted "NO! NO, don't do it!" and slammed the phone down.

DSK

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Harry Krause wrote:
There's no requirement that one answer a ringing phone.


Agreed.

A direct quote from my grandfather- "That telephone is in this house for
MY convenience, not theirs."

I often don't answer the phone because I'm busy. OTOH if I'm not doing
anything, discouraging telemarketing is a useful task and benefits our
society. Plus it can be fun.

DSK

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How many of you have actually served?


I did,


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
And to your credit I might add - you'll get no grief from me on that
issue.

Even if it was in the Navy.

Hey, just trying to stay on topic here.

DSK

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:29:02 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:26:35 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I saw a military recruitment TV commercial the other day, in which a
parent was sort of asked, "if your child asks about going in the
military,
what would you say?" kind of thing. Those weren't the exact words, but
close enough. The idea was that parents should have "information" so
they
can answer their kids' questions and help them decide upon the
military.

This newsgroup and it's political discussions has caused me to think
about
something that never crossed my mind. I need to ask my father (retired
air
force pilot) why he and my grandfather (army, infantry) never encouraged
me
to join the military. It will be interesting to know if my father
thinks
his grandson should join the military.

I wouldn't hesitate to advise any grandchildren of mine to join the
military if they asked me for my advice.

If they asked you why you recommend it, especially at this specific point
in
history, what would you tell them?

I would start out by explaining that life is an adventure. Everyday
is a new series of events that lead to in multiple directions. Take
advantage of the training and skills offered by the military in
exchange for adding to your store of skills and ability so that
whatever direction your life takes, you are a little more prepared for
it.

I would say that you can pick what you want to do - Aircraft,
electronics, yada, yada, yada. If you really want to have some fun,
shoot for the elite specialties. Hell, even those pussy Navy types
can do good things for you.

I would tell them that the discipline and camaraderie will stay with
them forever and give them something to fall back on when times get
tough.

I would tell them to take advantage of the educational opportunities
offered and max your skill set as much as possible.

I would say that yes, the chances of being killed by bad guys is
higher than being killed driving across town, but if you pay
attention, trust your buddies and follow the lead of your Senior NCOs
- stay sharp, you'll be just fine.

Last, I would say that will be bad times, but they will be more than
offset by the good times and those will be more than worthy of
remembering.

All true (almost), but to my son, I've said that if you're going to get your
guts blown out, make sure it's for a good cause.


"The United States has no right, no desire, and no intention to impose our
form of government on anyone else. That is one of the main differences
between us and our enemies."
-- Apparently he isn't counting the invasions, occupations and
nation-building endeavors in Afghanistan and Iraq, 2005 State of the Union
address, Washington, D.C., Feb. 2, 2005

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:53:06 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

DSK wrote:
Dan J.S. wrote:
First, how do you respond the the fact you liberals want a draft.

1- I am not a liberal
2- "Liberals" don't want a draft, nor do I.


I want a draft.

I want the sons and daughters of rich Republican voters drafted and sent
over to Iraq to die with the sons and daughters of the mostly poor.
Having a military force with 50,000 sons and daughters of wealthy
Republican families in it would tend to chill a simple-minded
President's desire to engage in imperialism.

All young men and women 18-25 should be entered in a draft pool. No
exemptions, except for serious disability.

Horse feathers.

Why?

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:53:06 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

DSK wrote:
Dan J.S. wrote:
First, how do you respond the the fact you liberals want a draft.

1- I am not a liberal
2- "Liberals" don't want a draft, nor do I.


I want a draft.

I want the sons and daughters of rich Republican voters drafted and sent
over to Iraq to die with the sons and daughters of the mostly poor.
Having a military force with 50,000 sons and daughters of wealthy
Republican families in it would tend to chill a simple-minded
President's desire to engage in imperialism.

All young men and women 18-25 should be entered in a draft pool. No
exemptions, except for serious disability.

Horse feathers.

Harry is just illustratig his total lack of understanding of the military.

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:23:04 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:11:46 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:53:06 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

DSK wrote:
Dan J.S. wrote:
First, how do you respond the the fact you liberals want a draft.
1- I am not a liberal
2- "Liberals" don't want a draft, nor do I.
I want a draft.

I want the sons and daughters of rich Republican voters drafted and
sent
over to Iraq to die with the sons and daughters of the mostly poor.
Having a military force with 50,000 sons and daughters of wealthy
Republican families in it would tend to chill a simple-minded
President's desire to engage in imperialism.

All young men and women 18-25 should be entered in a draft pool. No
exemptions, except for serious disability.
Horse feathers.
Which part?

The first part. I don't think it makes any difference.

If only because of the Pentagon's propensity to hand out cushy jobs to
sons of prominent people - like Lt. Gore for example.

I agree with the second. :)

Oh, we'd surely need a mechanism to ensure the sons and daughters of
rich Republicans were killed or maimed in appropriate numbers.

Say what?

I think Harry may be suggesting that for certain cushy jobs, there should be
a random way of choosing people, so some senator's kid doesn't have an
advantage.

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"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:53:06 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

DSK wrote:
Dan J.S. wrote:
First, how do you respond the the fact you liberals want a draft.

1- I am not a liberal
2- "Liberals" don't want a draft, nor do I.


I want a draft.

I want the sons and daughters of rich Republican voters drafted and sent
over to Iraq to die with the sons and daughters of the mostly poor.
Having a military force with 50,000 sons and daughters of wealthy
Republican families in it would tend to chill a simple-minded
President's desire to engage in imperialism.

All young men and women 18-25 should be entered in a draft pool. No
exemptions, except for serious disability.

Horse feathers.

Harry is just illustratig his total lack of understanding of the military.




So, Fruitz, you're saying that preferential treatment is an integral and
permanent aspect of the military?

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Horse feathers.

Which part?


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
The first part. I don't think it makes any difference.

If only because of the Pentagon's propensity to hand out cushy jobs to
sons of prominent people - like Lt. Gore for example.


How was he given a cushy job? Unlike many others, he actually *went* to
Viet Nam. And he also had the guts to be an official conscientious
objector, which limited the number & type of jobs the Army could give
him. There are not many worse spots they could legally have put him in.

That's aside from the fact that conscientious objectors are NOT popular
in the military, for obvious reasons, and life as one is fairly miserable.

Rancor against Al Gore is IMHO pretty much proof of a severely biased
attitude, and shows that one's opinions are chiefly formed by the
farther right wing propaganda.

How about this?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/....ap/index.html

DSK