Jet Ski overheating problem
 

The last time I rode my Jet Ski it gave me a problem
with overheating. The cause is that there wasn't much
of a stream of water running through it to cool it. The
stream from the outlet hole was very inconsistent, and
looked like it might be clogged by something. I ran it
up on a beach too fast the day before, and was afraid
that might cause a problem. If that's what is likely to
have done it, and there is a way of cleaning out whatever
may be causing a clog, can anyone tell me how to do it?

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

dh@. wrote in message ...
The last time I rode my Jet Ski it gave me a problem
with overheating. The cause is that there wasn't much
of a stream of water running through it to cool it. The
stream from the outlet hole was very inconsistent, and
looked like it might be clogged by something. I ran it
up on a beach too fast the day before, and was afraid
that might cause a problem. If that's what is likely to
have done it, and there is a way of cleaning out whatever
may be causing a clog, can anyone tell me how to do it?

You answered your own question. You need to clean the beach sand out of the
engine cooling passages. Get a maintenance manual for that model and it will
clearly describe the cooling system. Follow the path of the cooling water
in, disconnect the hoses, flush out the crud, reassemble.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

Yes. You need to take your jet ski to an acid dip facility and leave
it in over night. Encourage your friends to do the same.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

Most of the elitist geniuses here don't know how to care for their own
boats. They're too busy wishing their wives would let them have a
jetski. The last two posts shows you the quality of advice here.
You'll have better luck at rec.sport.jetski.

John

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

Try epoxy in the water intake.

In article , dh@. wrote:

The last time I rode my Jet Ski it gave me a problem
with overheating. The cause is that there wasn't much
of a stream of water running through it to cool it. The
stream from the outlet hole was very inconsistent, and
looked like it might be clogged by something. I ran it
up on a beach too fast the day before, and was afraid
that might cause a problem. If that's what is likely to
have done it, and there is a way of cleaning out whatever
may be causing a clog, can anyone tell me how to do it?

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

I have no sympathy for the jet ski enthustiast. Too many times I've
been in a tight situation on a sail boat when these dick heads think
it's funny to ride doughnuts around us. Not to mention the times we've
been at anchor and they scream around our boat just to get a rise out
of our little dog who hates the noise they make.

I'm with the dog, I don't like the noise either!

Lady Sailor

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

Not to mention the times we've
been at anchor and they scream around our boat just to get a rise out

of our little dog who hates the noise they make.


Are you really that self centered to think that other people really
give a **** about your dog's reaction? You can't be serious.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

You miss the point, John. It's not about the dog... it's about a few (maybe
more than a few) jet ski operators who delight in harrasing a woman and her
dog. Generally the people on jet skis are kids and pretty mindless. The
high pitched noise made by some of these things probably cause the dog a lot
of pain and it reacts by barking at the things that are hurting it.

Also, you may be surprised to know that dogs and boating are a pretty nice
combination. A lot of boaters take their dogs along for the companionship
and because a lot of dogs really enjoy a boat ride and a day out with the
owner.

Speaking for myself, I like most dogs a lot more than I like most jet ski
operators. The dogs seem to be smarter and better behaved.

Butch
"John" wrote in message
oups.com...
Not to mention the times we've
been at anchor and they scream around our boat just to get a rise out

of our little dog who hates the noise they make.


Are you really that self centered to think that other people really
give a **** about your dog's reaction? You can't be serious.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

Are you really that self centered to think that other people really
give a **** about your dog's reaction? You can't be serious.


Your post is classic John. A perfect window into the mind of a jet ski
operator.

Barb
www.sailinglinks.com

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

I obviously don't know where you boat or the actions of the jetskiers
there. The same goes for everyone else that posts negative comments
about jetskiers here. I only know that where I boat AND jetski, I have
never seen the kinds of actions described here and I have found that
jetskiers, old and young, are at least as respectful as most boaters.
When going fast they are no worse than any bass boater and certainly
no louder. I have yet to see a jetski that is 1/10th as loud as those
asshole boaters that have their un-muffled exhausts above the
waterline just to hear their obnoxious boats' noise. I have, however,
noticed boaters (a very small minority) that go out of their way to
screw with jetskiers. Those folks think that because they can afford a
$100,000 boat that they own the damn river and others can't have some
fun. They are also the ones that plow a huge wake whenever they see a
jonboat or the crew team. I have seen the few that scream at
jetskiers, who are minding their own business, just because they don't
like them. Sorry, but they have as much right to use the waterways as
the boaters.

Now don't get me wrong. I am not accusing you of being one of those
obnoxious or uptight boaters. I am also not trying to claim that there
are not any obnoxious and asshole jetskiers. But I am saying that just
because there are some is no reason to **** on the poor guy that was
asking a question here any more than all boaters should be condemned
because of the ones I described above.

Dave Hall

On 27 Oct 2005 07:55:05 -0700, "ladysailor"
wrote:

Are you really that self centered to think that other people really
give a **** about your dog's reaction? You can't be serious.


Your post is classic John. A perfect window into the mind of a jet ski
operator.

Barb
www.sailinglinks.com

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

That's a good point Dave. People don't seem to have a problem with loud
boats, just loud jetskis. Why is that?

I operate my jetski the same way that I operate my boat. I stay in my
space and have no reason to invade other people's space. Just like
power boater's have to deal with a sail barge's lack of
maneuverability, you have to deal with an engine's byproduct, noise.
You don't like it, don't sail. Feel free to complain. In the same way
that's it's legal for you to inconvenience every other boat around you
because of a sail boat's right of way, boats will continue to legally
make noise.

Like Butch said, it's about the few operators that are causing the
problem. Barb's ignorant remarks show her frame of mind when it comes
to jetskis. The noise is an excuse to complain about something you
don't like, jetskis. Dave said it all when he pointed out how noisey
some boats are too. Some boats are a lot louder and faster than a
jetski. Why no outrage from Barb about those boats? If you have
complained, please point us to the newsgroup post where you complained
about loud boats?

If your dog doesn't like jetskis, then don't take your dog on your
sailboat. If I said your flapping sails scare my dog, would you drop
your sails? Of course you wouldn't. Your elititst attitude would tell
me that my dog had to deal with it. That's how ridiculous your
arguement sounds. I don't ask people to curtail their recreational
activities because it will inconvenience my pet. I love my dog enough
to not take somewhere where he wouldn't be exposed to that kind
activity.

I love my dog, but like your dog it's a pet. I would never ask someone
to stop their recreational activity because it was inconveniencing my
dog. People come first. By the way Barb your dog is not a person, it's
a pet. Sorry to break the bad news to you. Or, are you one of those
disfunctional people that thinks your dog is a person?

Barb's blanket generalizations about jetskis more than show how
ignorant she is. I see just as many boats as I do jetskis acting like
asses on the water. All of my kids ride jetskis and they know they will
lose ride time for acting inappropriately.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

Great post John...the fact is that there is no real distinction between
pwc'ers and boaters, the first are simply a subset of the former (with
lots of people in the intersection of both groups - in other words they
have and love both pwc's and larger boats). Both groups have an
enormous amount in common (both love the water, the outdoors, the
beach, cruising, and both have responsibilities on the water, must
learn navigation and the rules of the road, how to maintain and repair
their vehicles and operate them safely, all safety procedures and
precautions, how to use equipment like vhf's, gps's, charts, both have
to avoid going aground, know the tides and watch the weather, it goes
on and on). Furthermore, both groups contain mostly responsible,
intelligent recreationalists and also lots of stupid, reckless,
inconsiderate idiots who don't know or care about the rules, the law,
the right thing to do, or their fellow boaters. Even further, BOTH
groups have to deal with stereotypes, ignorance and jealousy from
outsiders who don't really know much about the except that they don't
like 'em. The only real guaranteed difference between a pwc'er and a
non-pwc boater is in the size and shape of their vessels - you can't
tell anything else about 'em as people from just that.

richforman

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

In article .com,
John wrote:
Not to mention the times we've
been at anchor and they scream around our boat just to get a rise out

of our little dog who hates the noise they make.


Are you really that self centered to think that other people really
give a **** about your dog's reaction? You can't be serious.

I've seen similar in this area. Some bozo on a jetski doing donuts
around a boat at anchor with a dog barking its head off. There was no
other reason for the guy doing it. I'm sure he thought it was equally
funny when the local sherrif gave him a ticket for going over the 5mph
posted speed limit.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

wrote:
Great post John...the fact is that there is no real distinction between
pwc'ers and boaters, the first are simply a subset of the former (with
lots of people in the intersection of both groups - in other words they
have and love both pwc's and larger boats). Both groups have an
enormous amount in common (both love the water, the outdoors, the
beach, cruising,

Really? I would suggest that what PWC'ers and loud speedboaters love is
attracting attention to themselves, and going fast.

Of course, 'going fast' is best done out of doors, but other than that
there is no intrinsic love of nature involved. Not at all.

How the hell do you know? How the **** would you know whether I or my
friends
love nature, what would give you the insight to think that the only
reason I love the outdorrs is that's
the only place I can "go fast"?

DSK you are dead wrong and just engaging in ignorant stereotyping. I
can tell
you you have us pwc'ers pegged ALL wrong.

Sure, "going fast" is part of the fun, but just a small part. In the
course of an day of riding my waverunner, I might do a few brief "speed
runs" just for the thrill of it and to see how my boat's performing,
but most of the day will be spent doing other things - the same things
any boater does I guess - cruising at a nice mid-level cruising speed
(often with my wife or kids on board, often solo riding along with a
friend on his machine) to get to a favorite beach or restaurant; idling
down a nice long side creek or canal to explore and enjoy the scenery;
tied off at a dock or anchored just off a beach to enjoy a picnic or a
relaxing break; or best of all, riding outside on the ocean and
enjoying the spectacular view of the beach, the sky and the sunlit
water....or, very often doing a long-distance or overnight
destination/travel cruise (have ridden from Florida to the Bahamas;
from Ft. Lauderdale to Key West and back over a week staying on a
different key each night; from Riverhead, NY to Newport, RI for an
overnighter with the wife; from Smithtown, NY to 50 miles up the
Connecticut River for a stay at a b & b also with the wife; from
Sayville, NY to Atlantic City for a mulit-day stay there; from Cold
Spring Harbor, LI up the Hudson River to Catskill, NY on a 200+ pwcer'
group ride/poker run to stay overnight and party there; to Block
Island; staying in the Thousand Islands in Alexandria Bay with my 'ski
tied up at the dock and spending four days with my wife exploring the
St. Lawrence River on the water all day long; and more, with more trips
and rides planned all the time.)....anyway....it's called BOATING,
that's what it is, that's what I do with my pwc's, and that's why there
is no doubt that I am as much a boater in exactly the same way as
anybody with a bigger boat.....and for the same reasons....the love of
being on the water, out in the sunshine (or the rain, or the cold
overcast sky in early spring through late fall), enjoying beaches,
islands, waterways....yes, loving and enjoying nature and the outdoors
exactly as I said.

There is no desire to "bring attention" to myself involved in any of my
pwc'ing, just to have fun with friends and family and enjoy the outdoor
recreation I love. And by the way I ride with many other fellow pwc
enthusiasts and they all enjoy the same kinds of activities I listed a
moment ago. I describe them to make the point that you are apparently
basing your statements on outdated ignorant stereotypes if you think
that "jetskiing" is just about making runs back and forth along the
beach spraying people, "doing donuts" and showboating, I can tell you
from extensive personal experience that you are mistaken.



... The only real guaranteed difference between a pwc'er and a
non-pwc boater is in the size and shape of their vessels - you can't
tell anything else about 'em as people from just that.

Yes, you can tell that they are the type of person who likes a
jet-ski... ie the odds lean toward their being immature & careless, with
a love of attracting attention to themselves and a lack of regard for
others.

Bullslhit DSK...I'm telling you your description doesn't apply to me or
ANY of the
serious pwc enthusiasts I ride with. Lack of regard for others? Just
because you're
riding a pwc? I am respectful of all other boaters out on the water,
fully aware of and respecful of
all the rules of the road and regulations governing my boating
activities; I have to obey the same
laws, face the same risks and all the same nautical issues and
responsibilities that ANY other boater
does....and so is ANY experienced long-term pwc enthusiast, unless
they're just an idiot to begin with I guess.
Sure, a first-timer or rental operator (there are basically no more of
these here in NY state now that
a Boating Safety certification is legally required in order to operate
a pwc on NYS waters) is going to be
a lot more clueless and careless, and since pwc's are easier to begin
operating, and more affordable than larger boats,
it is true that it is easier for an idiot to get one or get onto one
than traditional boats and go around dong stupid things. But just like
with anything else, if they are serious about it and stay with it, they
will learn as they go along and before you know it, become courteous,
knowledgeable responsible boaters like anybody else out on the water
should.

It's not necessarily true that they are, but the odds are if they didn't
have at least a little of that in their personality, they wouldn't want
a jet-ski in the first place.

Bull****, utter bull****. You sound unbelievably arrogant. You can't
judge anything about
somebody's personality by whether they enjoy riding pwc as a form of
recreation on the water.

I mean, again, yes, there is a fun aspect to going fast on
one....exhiliration....I guess this
"part of someone's personality" can also contribute to them enjoying
waterskiing, riding in any
kind of power boat, surfing, millions of other recreational activities.
Is there something inherently
wrong with enjoying a little speed?

You obviously know NOTHING about pwc'ing or pwc'ers except for some
long-harbored grudge and prejudice.
I take your statements as personal insults and lies about me and my
friends
Again, I am glad to note that I don't encounter that kind of toxic,
mean-spritied attitude from actual
boaters I meet out on the water where we all share our enjoyment of
boating - only from virtual/online/newsgroup
boaters.

I am sure you've encountered idiotic clueless reckless pwc'ers doing
dopey things endangering themselves and others. Just as you and I have
on all kinds of bigger recreational boats....all the time, every
weekend.

richforman

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

On 26 Oct 2005 18:54:01 -0700, "ladysailor" wrote:

I have no sympathy for the jet ski enthustiast. Too many times I've
been in a tight situation on a sail boat when these dick heads think
it's funny to ride doughnuts around us. Not to mention the times we've
been at anchor and they scream around our boat just to get a rise out
of our little dog who hates the noise they make.

I'm with the dog, I don't like the noise either!

Lady Sailor

Sometimes sailboats are a pain in the ass too. I've gotten
chapped at more than one of them in my houseboat. I'm willing
to bet you've been cussed a few times yourself.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

On 23 Oct 2005 22:02:49 -0700, "John" wrote:

Most of the elitist geniuses here don't know how to care for their own
boats. They're too busy wishing their wives would let them have a
jetski. The last two posts shows you the quality of advice here.
You'll have better luck at rec.sport.jetski.

John

Thanks.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

Rich, I haven't see you post in a long time. We moved from Long Island
last year and live in Arizona now. Nice to see you're still here. Seems
like rec.sport.jetski has died off. I ran into Laszlo here last week.



Jonathon, you are absolutely correct, the guy you saw was an asshole
and was rewarded with a ticket for speeding in a 5MPH zone. He deserved
it.

DSK, it's your words I'm quoting here - "there is no intrinsic love of
nature involved. Not at all." And how exactly would you know that? How
do you know what I like?

Well DSK, How many tons of fiberglass surround you when you boat? How
far are you from the water physically when you're at the helm? When
boating, you can't get much closer to nature than when you're on a
jetski. Can you take your boat into the shallow salt marshes and
checkout nature with your boat? Rich knows how much life exists in Long
Islands salt marshes. My kids have spent many hours back there
exploring, learning and respecting nature from their jetskis.
What's wrong with going fast? Your boat doesn't go fast? If it's a
power boat, did you order the smallest possible engine with it? You're
a nature lover, so have you traded in your power boat for a sail boat?
Less emissions. If you have a sail boat, do you use the least amount of
sail to maintain headway? Remember? you dont like speed.
Dave, I agree with you, jetskiers have the same rights as boaters do on
the water. They pay fees and taxes just like boaters do.

So you think jetskiers aren't courteous. Dave made some good points
about wakes. When boater's see a jetskier who's flipped his ski over
and fallen off, what do you guys do? Do you stop to see if they're ok?
Do you even slow down so they don't get hit with your wake as they are
trying to reboard a bobbing 800 lb. jetski? Meanwhile, if you saw a
boat in trouble with people in the water with PFD's on, you'd race over
to help. If they get hurt reboarding because of your wake, would you
care? Or would you go faster to kick up a bigger wake? Guess what,
because I am a jetskier as well as a boater, I slow down and have
stopped when I see people having trouble reboarding. Even though the
law states that you are responsible for your wake, do you slow down?
Anyone remember last month's ferry wake incident in Lake George? Not
many people thought that wake was funny.

Meanwhile, the outrage here is for a barking dog, not a potential
injury to a jetskier in the water. Now feel free to tell me who is
"immature", "careless", and "mindless" "dick head". (DSK's and Barb's
words, not mine)

I didn't accumilate 600 trouble free hours on my jetski by riding crazy
and abusing it. I have travelled the entire southshore of Long Island,
fron NY harbor to Montalk point with my jetski as well as my boat.
Blanket statements concerning the entire jetski community based on the
actions of the few are irresponsible and ignorant.

John

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

No d, I can't say that we've ever been cussed at. But then, we don't
go out of our way to **** people off by buzzing around them, cutting
them off and racing through marina's causing large wakes.

Barb
www.sailinglinks.com

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

Rich, I haven't see you post in a long time. We moved from Long Island
last year and live in Arizona now. Nice to see you're still here. Seems
like rec.sport.jetski has died off. I ran into Laszlo here last week.

Thanks for the shout-out John, I have to embarrassedly admit I'm not
sure who
I'm talking to here, do I know you from RL or just from newsgroup posts
etc?
RSJ died out a long time ago, but if you've never discovered them,
there are some
other very active, fun, useful pwc-related forums that I post regularly
on (and a lot
of smarter pwc people post more frequently than I do), the main one is
pwctoday.com
and also www.sea-doo.net, they more than fill the void left by the old
RSJ.

I usually just lurk in the boating ng's but DSK's brilliant comments
coaxed me out of my
shell there.

richforman

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

On behalf of the pwc community, let me say that obviously anyone who
does those things
is idiotic, irresponsible and probably a newbie or a kid. But no one I
ride with, and I ride with lots
of fellow pwc touring/cruising enthusiasts, would do anything like that
once they have maybe a
season's experience under their belt to figure out what's going on (We
usually learn our lessons early on by getting
ticketed by the marine law-enforcement agents who usually seem to
perform more enforcement with pwc's than with
other boats acting just as stupidly and dangerously....and actually
it's good because after you've been
pulled over or ticketed once or twice for a no wake zone or not having
the required safety equipment on board, you learn
the rules pretty fast!....'Course when I started riding eight years
ago, that was before they had the mandatory
education/certification requirement that NYS now has for all pwc
operators, so I would guess that newbies are
more educated and prepared from the get-go now....I know accident and
injury statistics have gone down). Anyway, it is unfair stereotyping
to try to paint the entire pwc world as exhibiting that kind of
behavior. I guarantee you if you saw me or any of my riding friends on
the water you wouldn't see anything like the kind of behavior you
mention.

richforman

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

You make some good points Rich. To be fair I should mention that we
left the US three years ago and have been sailing the Western Coast of
Mexico since. Here the rules and policing of pwc's is far different,
read non existent. It's good to know that things are shaping up
north of us should we ever sail the US again.

Barb
www.sailinglinks.com

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

ladysailor wrote:

Some Bud Yelse wrote:
I ran over gravel in my seadoo. How can I unstick my impellor?

Some Co-Troller Yelse wrote:
Flush it with gas, use zippo to see inside if it's unclogged.
..
..(Paraphrased) Other insults redacted -TK
..
A real Seadoo Bunny wrote:
No d, I can't say that we've ever been cussed at. But then, we don't
go out of our way to **** people off by buzzing around them, cutting
them off and racing through marina's causing large wakes.

Barb
www.sailinglinks.com


You can jump my wake, if chasing sailors is your crush.

Once or twice, anyway. Maybe I could give you a tow, if you want to
come aboard for a coffee.

One of my best feelings was when we towed under sail a family of 5
in a small speedboat at near hull speed. As it happened, they were
flooded, not out of gas. After half an hour of coaching, the
skipper began to understand starting a hot engine with a manual
choke. Who said sailors don't need to be gearheads? At least they
were all wearing lifejackets. Foreigners, visiting a wedding. A
rented motorboat excursion thrill, worried grandma and all. They got
to the wedding on time.

Didj'a ever climb the rigging from from one boat to another? I have
a ladder on my transom that can be used for docking my dinghy. It
makes it easy to get back and forth, even under way, with hand
lines. Pulling a rope on a seadoo bow shouldn't be any more
difficult than pulling my old dinghy close up behind, even at
sailing speed.

Could you climb from your cockpit to the bow of your sea scooter if
it was tied to my stern ladder articulation whilst under sail?

Would a flooded flexy framed inflatable sailcloth bumkin shape make
a seadoo easier to tow at sailing speed? What a plan for a fast
dinghy! An inflatable "trailer" for a seadoo might make it a winner
as a sailor's second boat. Fun? It could also tow, even push a
becalmed pure sailboat back to it's mooring.

Strangely, it seems the most expensive part of a sailboat is an
engine. Why can not an engine for a sail boat cost less than for an
obnoxius sounding wave jumper?

Perhaps an inflatable sailboat with a built in dock for a seadoo, al
la Captain Nemo's submarine dinghy?

How about a submersible swath effect sailboat with no need for a
weighty keel? A seperate steerable tip on a keel should enable a
hydrodynamic steerable keel effect, keeping the keel erect in the
water even under press of sail. Would the hydrodynamic drag be less
than that of a heavy weight keel supporting hull? Why could not a
submarine be towed by a kite hooked to it's periscope?

Add a n inflatable trampoline and a picknic basket and you have a
floating airbed mattress and tent you could portage, except for the
heavy engine. No mast, even. Maybe 10 HP would do?

The reason sailing is getting so expensive is a marketing ploy to
pare down the number of adventurous people on the water, while
extracting the most money from the rich aspiring boat snobs. They
would pose less of a crowd control problem if their propellors did
not hurt manatees.

You could even have a bicycle based excercise machine to recharge
the Hall effect brake regenerator rotor motor batteries for the 3 hp
impellor, if the inflatable solar cells weren't getting enough sun,
and there wasn't enough wind to sail, and if you couldn't afford or
find gas or diesel. Or, you could pay to join an excercise club?

How much power do you really need to tow a skiier, even as slowly as
possible?

Don't I remember a ski tow drone with remote control tow cables
being in the news 20 years ago with a 20 horse motor? Remember the
pogo foil water scooter? They have international races, now, like a
scooter steeplchase.

Is this an overheating thread?

Reverse flush your impellor! turn it a little in reverse by hand.
Take the spark plugs out to make it easy to turn. Get a firefighting
hose fixture on the outlet of your seadoo, volunteer as a helicopter
smoke jumper into a lake or river near a forest fire or village in
need of water. Anchor just offshore to fight the fire and tie the
boatette to a tree. Tow a Zeanon water filter in a flexy bag.

No, I'm not the Terry Spragg who invented the water bag for towing
glaciers to Saudi Arabia. Somebody called me once, looking for him.

Your free sample of ideas from -SofDevCo- © "Brains for rent."

Job opportuniy: Need freelance marketing executive, or government
grant for feasability study. Undetectable kickbacks not guaranteed.
-You could be our first customer.

College research theses entertained. Non-disclosure agreement required.

Terry K

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

Rich, we spoke on the phone once, years ago. It may have been about the
ride around Manhattan, or maybe one of the poker runs up the Hudson. I
think I had spoken to Mario about that ride too. We never made it. I
think we exchanged a few emails about that trip to Florida a few years
back.

I don't remember if you were the same guy that works at the marina West
Sayville. I lost touch with everyone except for Bill O'Neil who I spoke
to a few weeks ago.

John

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

You're thinking of Mark D'Angelis, he does work there a lot but that's
because he owns the place! :) (West Sayville Boat Basin) I don't keep
my 'ski on his jetdocks anymore (I did for the summers of '00 and '01 I
think, then decided I preferred keeping it at home and trailering it
around to different spots all the time) so I'm not as close to him as I
was then, but I still pull up to his jetdocks on my 'ski to say hi at
least once or twice a season (he hasn't done much pwc'ing at all the
last few years, now that he's got three kids he has gotten more into
"regular boating.") Oh well good chatting, do you still ride pwc's,
hope so, must be lots of beautiful riding to be done where you are now.

richforman

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I rode alot more when I was living in Bellmore. We lived in a
waterfront house on Bellmore creek with the skis on a floating dock. I
miss the grass cuts by Massapequa. Lakes get boring quick.

I think we met you guys at Gilgo when they were doing a SeaDoo demo day
thing a few years ago. I met Mario there, I'm not sure if I met you too
then. My wife and I towed our skis there for the day with the boat.

We ate lunch once at the restaurant to his marina. He later said he saw
us, but never came by. The trip back to Bellmore got snotty when the
wind kicked up. Between the grass and the waves, it took us hours to
get back to Bellmore.

John

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"I have no sympathy for the jet ski enthustiast."

And I have no sympathy for you or your dog.

If the PWC'ers are violating the local laws or ordinances then they are
criminals and should be dealt with. We don't hate cars and drivers because
some people use them illegally.

If they are following the letter of the law and you just "don't like the
noise"... then the problem is with YOU. Unless you own your own lake,
you're not guaranteed "quiet and solitude".

It should probably also be noted that the new generation of PWC's are
amazingly quiet... usually quieter than any other powered "boat" out there.

Giz



"ladysailor" wrote in message
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I have no sympathy for the jet ski enthustiast. Too many times I've
been in a tight situation on a sail boat when these dick heads think
it's funny to ride doughnuts around us. Not to mention the times we've
been at anchor and they scream around our boat just to get a rise out
of our little dog who hates the noise they make.

I'm with the dog, I don't like the noise either!

Lady Sailor

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"The_Giz" wrote in message
...
"I have no sympathy for the jet ski enthustiast."

And I have no sympathy for you or your dog.

If the PWC'ers are violating the local laws or ordinances then they are
criminals and should be dealt with. We don't hate cars and drivers
because some people use them illegally.

Well, some of us do, but on general principles.

If they are following the letter of the law and you just "don't like the
noise"... then the problem is with YOU. Unless you own your own lake,
you're not guaranteed "quiet and solitude".

There is a presumption of quiet enjoyment in most anchorages. And, what
happened to the spirit of the law, rather than just the letter of the law?
The point is that being a good neighbor has more to do with the former than
the latter.

It should probably also be noted that the new generation of PWC's are
amazingly quiet... usually quieter than any other powered "boat" out
there.

I guess I don't get out enough. I have yet to run over, I mean run into, I
mean see/hear one of these.

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Capt. JG wrote:


I guess I don't get out enough. I have yet to run over, I mean run into, I
mean see/hear one of these.

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Hi, Jon,

Yes, it's true. I just sold my lake home near Atlanta, on the way out
the door, so to speak, to cutting the cord.

The last few days I was there, after spending most of the summer and
prior two seasons working on the Flying Pig, thus not having a chance
to see it, either, I saw several of the new breed of jetskis (well,
technically, PWC - I can't speak to what actual Jetskis are like).

Much to my surprise, I could scarcely hear them. They made every bit
as much wake at slow speed, and were every bit as zippy at high speed,
as the PWC they looked like, but - while I could tell it was running -
it sounded a bit like a high quality I/O with a better than usual
muffling job.

It reminded me much more of a car than a boat noise...

FWIW, on Lanier, where I used to live, we have gotten a bit more of the
new breed rider than the old of late, which is refreshing to think
about. Even though I'm not going to be on that lake again, most
likely, ever, it's encouraging to see the evolution.

And, in my runabout, if I see a jumper, I enjoy(ed) giving them a
suitable wake, in an appropriate area. Some of them are definitely
balletic. OTOH, the only two boats I have left which can do that are
for sale and won't go "on the boat" with us, so I suspect I'll have to
enjoy others' provisions, if there are any, in our cruising grounds
:{))

L8R

Skip, recovering from nasal and sinus surgery on the way to active
shoulder rehab so I can get back to final refit and cut the cord

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig
http://tinyurl.com/384p2 The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore.
Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain

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I'm guessing what you saw was what is becoming typical in PWC's - four
cycle engines. Was it Lake Tahoe that was 4 cycle engines only?
You also made a good point. Why is boat owners act like they own their
wake. Your wake and the jetskiers who jump them are behind you. The
only piece of water you own is the one your boat is on at the time and
the water in your right away. Are boaters really worried that a jetski
is going to hit them even though the jetski is waiting for the wake,
and are traveling perpendicular to your boat's path..behind you!

Giz, I totally agree with you. If jetskiers do anything illegal they
deserve an expensive ticket. And, if you want a lake that you can
dictate who boats and who doesn't, buy the lake.

JG, please feel free to point out where in the law there is a
"presumption of quiet enjoyment" ? If a sailboater finds your inboard
too noisey, then would you stop boating. Consider to your own reasoning
before you answer. I don't care how quiet your boat is, it's stil
noise. You advertised your ignorance well when you said: "I have yet
to run over, mean run into, I mean see/hear one of these."

John

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"ladysailor" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have no sympathy for the jet ski enthustiast. Too many times I've
been in a tight situation on a sail boat when these dick heads think
Lady Sailor

Nah, Your no lady.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

You're right, I take off my hat and gloves when I'm being harassed by
obnoxious morons and turn straight away into a ****ed off sailor.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"ladysailor" wrote in message
ups.com...
You're right, I take off my hat and gloves when I'm being harassed by
obnoxious morons and turn straight away into a ****ed off sailor.


Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then yell
at a power boat for impeding you.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

Bill McKee wrote:
Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then yell
at a power boat for impeding you.


Probably like a lot of motorboaters, you have no clue what's involved in
sailing, and think that all boats can be driven like a car.

DSK

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Bill McKee wrote:
"ladysailor" wrote in message
ups.com...

You're right, I take off my hat and gloves when I'm being harassed by
obnoxious morons and turn straight away into a ****ed off sailor.



Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then yell
at a power boat for impeding you.


If you don't like the collision regulations, sell that stinkpot and take
up golf.

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In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"ladysailor" wrote in message
oups.com...
You're right, I take off my hat and gloves when I'm being harassed by
obnoxious morons and turn straight away into a ****ed off sailor.


Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then yell
at a power boat for impeding you.

Suggestion: Get a copy of the Colregs and the Rules of the Road,
specifically. Then, get back to us.



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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Bill McKee wrote:
Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then
yell at a power boat for impeding you.

Probably like a lot of motorboaters, you have no clue what's involved in
sailing, and think that all boats can be driven like a car.

DSK


I know what is involved with sailing. Married a good sailors daughter and
used to windsurf. But too many "sailors" figure they have the right of way
as they have a sailboat. I have had "sailors" do a 90 degree in front of me
when lifting the sails and the iron sail is still running, and then yell at
me. They would yell even louder if I collided with them and when they had
to pay enormous sums of money to me.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

In article ,
DSK wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then yell
at a power boat for impeding you.


Probably like a lot of motorboaters, you have no clue what's involved in
sailing, and think that all boats can be driven like a car.

Come on Doug, be fair. Some sailboats have wheels.


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In article ,
Don White wrote:
Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then yell
at a power boat for impeding you.


If you don't like the collision regulations, sell that stinkpot and take
up golf.

Don, please don't ruin golf for us....


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