Gene,
I am surprised anyone had to go so far as calling him. His IP and email
told everyone that it was the real skipper.


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
I just got tired of all of the innuendo and half-truth information, so
I thought I'd find out the *real* truth.

I just got off the telephone with the *real* Skipper. We had a very
pleasant chat about old times and the newsgroup in general. Skipper
continues to boat, says he has been spending time away, cruising, and
has not checked into the newsgroup for a couple of years. (As you
might guess, he like hundreds of others, tired of the infighting and
moved on to boating venues with less angst.)

HOWEVER, the latest posts by the person identifying himself as
"Skipper " IS *TRULY* THE ONE AND ORIGINAL POSTER
BY THAT NAME. He believes that his posts accurately reflect his
opinions on the matters that he has discussed. (My disclaimer, at this
point, is to state that *I* have no personal knowledge of any of the
points under consideration and will not endorse either parties
position.)

This post is meant merely to verify the true identity of the
aforementioned poster.

Another matter, the one of smithers. I despise what you have been
doing to this newsgroup, but I *will,* in all fairness, retract my
musings that you were the pseudo skipper. You are not. Apparently,
there is no "pseudo Skipper."

This behind us, fellows, can we move on to a boating topic that is on
more of a positive note.

And Skipper, if you read this, thanks for taking the time to talk with
me. I'll be dropping you an email.....

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Gene,

His IP really was not that difficult to figure out and his email was a
working email.

You could have sent email to the fairwinds address, and Dave would have
responded.

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:59:43 -0400, "Smith Smithers"
wrote:

Gene,
I am surprised anyone had to go so far as calling him. His IP and email
told everyone that it was the real skipper.

No, not really. Apparently his ISP has reconfigured the NNTP servers
and he no longer goes through the same server... if, indeed, it still
exists. So whether he posts from the East Coast or The Great Plains...
his geographical location is no longer immediately obvious (as it was
a couple of years ago).

An email account is easily forged and.....

anybody with a copy of any decent NNTP server can be anybody they
want, posting from anywhere they want... if they are so inclined.

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~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/
Homepage*
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:46:07 -0400, "Smith Smithers"
wrote:

Gene,

His IP really was not that difficult to figure out and his email was a
working email.

You could have sent email to the fairwinds address, and Dave would have
responded.


Some person would have responded, said they were "Dave," and I would
have known as much after the email, as before.

The only fact that wasn't anonymised was Skipper's real identity,
which I had saved from another era in rec.boats when people weren't so
worried about responding to hooded posters neurotically compelled to
grind personal axes. Posters actually sought boating help from other
boaters and weren't afraid to post their address in seeking same.

Thanks to some here with one foot across the lunatic fringe, there is
ample anger and distrust with too little substantial boating
information.



It's always been mostly the right-wingers who worked to conceal their
identities here. "Smithers" is a perfect example.

Why does one have to reveal their real identity here? Even the experts
agree that it is actually not a prudent thing to do.

His posting IP shows absolutely no sign of being falsified.
A simple traceroute to his posting ip show it is indeed located in Derby KS.




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:59:43 -0400, "Smith Smithers"
wrote:

Gene,
I am surprised anyone had to go so far as calling him. His IP and email
told everyone that it was the real skipper.

No, not really. Apparently his ISP has reconfigured the NNTP servers
and he no longer goes through the same server... if, indeed, it still
exists. So whether he posts from the East Coast or The Great Plains...
his geographical location is no longer immediately obvious (as it was
a couple of years ago).

An email account is easily forged and.....

anybody with a copy of any decent NNTP server can be anybody they
want, posting from anywhere they want... if they are so inclined.

--

_ ___c
\ _| \_
__\_| oooo \_____
~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~
~~~ ~~~~~~
~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~
~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/
Homepage*
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

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Harry Krause wrote:

It's always been mostly the right-wingers who worked to conceal their
identities here. "Smithers" is a perfect example.

Could that be because they're a bit brighter than those rad/lib zealots
trashing this NG?

--
Skipper

Harry Krause wrote:

Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

It's always been mostly the right-wingers who worked to conceal their
identities here. "Smithers" is a perfect example.

Could that be because they're a bit brighter than those rad/lib zealots
trashing this NG?

It could be, but it isn't.

Are you sure? You know unfortunate but justifiable things have happened
to your kind. Perhaps it is wiser to post under a nom de groupe with the
abusive style you present...

--
Skipper

Gene,

The address is the exact same address Skipper used years
ago. If anyone responded, it would have to be the same Skipper who has been
posting with that email address years ago. Even if Skipper died or stopped
using cox.net, Cox.net would not allow anyone else to use that email
address. No one who wanted to "spoof" Skipper would have actually received
the mail sent to .

The fact that this went over so many heads amazes me.




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:46:07 -0400, "Smith Smithers"
wrote:

Gene,

His IP really was not that difficult to figure out and his email was a
working email.

You could have sent email to the fairwinds address, and Dave would have
responded.


Some person would have responded, said they were "Dave," and I would
have known as much after the email, as before.

The only fact that wasn't anonymised was Skipper's real identity,
which I had saved from another era in rec.boats when people weren't so
worried about responding to hooded posters neurotically compelled to
grind personal axes. Posters actually sought boating help from other
boaters and weren't afraid to post their address in seeking same.

Thanks to some here with one foot across the lunatic fringe, there is
ample anger and distrust with too little substantial boating
information.

--

_ ___c
\ _| \_
__\_| oooo \_____
~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~
~~~ ~~~~~~
~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~
~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/
Homepage*
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

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Harry,
I may not be the smartest, but I was smart enough to figure out who Skipper
was.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

It's always been mostly the right-wingers who worked to conceal their
identities here. "Smithers" is a perfect example.

Could that be because they're a bit brighter than those rad/lib zealots
trashing this NG?

--
Skipper


It could be, but it isn't. He's just another right-wing troll.

BTW, what happened to you the last few years? Did you suffer a stroke or
something like that? You seem to have devolved mentally and emotionally.

Just curious.

Gene,
I just sent you email to , please respond.


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 18:28:01 -0400, "Smith Smithers"
wrote:

Even if Skipper died or stopped
using cox.net, Cox.net would not allow anyone else to use that email
address. No one who wanted to "spoof" Skipper would have actually
received
the mail sent to .


That is the silliest thing I have ever read.

The fact that this went over so many heads amazes me.


The fact that you think that is a fact amazes me!

Do you think att.net has held your original email address all these
years?

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_ ___c
\ _| \_
__\_| oooo \_____
~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~
~~~ ~~~~~~
~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~
~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/
Homepage*
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

Smith Smithers wrote:
Gene,

The address is the exact same address Skipper used years
ago. If anyone responded, it would have to be the same Skipper who has been
posting with that email address years ago. Even if Skipper died or stopped
using cox.net, Cox.net would not allow anyone else to use that email
address. No one who wanted to "spoof" Skipper would have actually received
the mail sent to .

The fact that this went over so many heads amazes me.



Lets just say 'once bitten, twice shy'.
With a number of people pretending to be someone else, it makes most leery.