" *JimH*" wrote in message
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"Skipper" wrote in message
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Gorf wrote:

And it is therefore a shame that Bush continues to ignore our
borders. My concern goes past the cost to the US medical system
and directly to the actual security of our Country.

Amen

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

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Skipper

You have a valid point but...........do not underestimate the total damage
that potentially can be done to our Country from terrorist attacks by
illegal aliens crossing our borders unrestricted.

Maybe we are both preaching to the choir.........as long as you admit that
Bush has done nothing to tighten up security at our borders.



edit..."....that Bush..." not "...the Bush...."

Freudian slip?

"Skipper" wrote in message
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Gorf wrote:

And it is therefore a shame that Bush continues to ignore our
borders. My concern goes past the cost to the US medical system
and to the actual security of our Country.

Amen

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

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Skipper

And what has GWB's response been? Cut Medicaid instead of addressing the
real issue of illegal immigration.

The truth is GWB is a "cheap labor conservative", he does not want to stem
the flow of cheap labor into this country - in fact he called the volunteer
Minute men "Vigilantes". He wants "high priced" American workers to have
compete with illegal aliens for jobs. You are right this will definitely
lower our standard of living.

The biggest threat is from terrorists just walking across the border with a
dirty bomb on their back - it is only a mattter of time!

wrote:
wrote:

Skipper wrote:

You stab the Pahlavi family in the back, turning Iran over to America
hating terrorists and eventually killing millions in a nuclear attack.

You turn America's pride, the Panama Canal over to leftists who give
control of the Canal over to America's avowed enemies in communist
China.

America's pride???? The last I knew, the Panama Canal was in.....Panama!


Right you are. And the old antique is too narrow for most of the modern
merchant vessels and warships.

You seeing a lot of the 'Post Panamax' vessels out your way Chuck?
A few years ago people here were all excited about bigger cranes, enough
water at the docks etc for these big container ships. Saw a few here
but no flood of them.

*JimH* wrote:

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

You have a valid point but...........do not underestimate the total damage
that potentially can be done to our Country from terrorist attacks by
illegal aliens crossing our borders unrestricted.

Maybe we are both preaching to the choir.........as long as you admit the
Bush has done nothing to tighten up security at our borders.

Bush is an idiot with some kind of sinister agreement with Fox...but
he's our idiot and far better than ANYTHING the Dems have produced.
Honestly, do we want a return of someone even worse than Carter? Hillary
is a Lefty Looney.

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Skipper

Gorf wrote:

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

And what has GWB's response been?

Conservative Republicans offer the best chance to remedy the situation.
The Looney Left wants the illegal's vote, and will continue to give the
world free medical care, drivers licenses,etc.. McCain is no solution
and Hillary is worse.

--
Skipper

Harry Krause wrote:

He's not my idiot; he's your idiot. I never voted for him. And, as far
as being a better POTUS than Gore or Kerry might have been, we'll just
never know. I feel Gore would have been far better, but I really don't
know that much about Kerry.

Dumbocrats are idiots and have no real monetary, budgetary, or foreign
policy. The current crop of Repubs is little better, but they do offer
the better option.

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Skipper

"Skipper" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

You have a valid point but...........do not underestimate the total
damage
that potentially can be done to our Country from terrorist attacks by
illegal aliens crossing our borders unrestricted.

Maybe we are both preaching to the choir.........as long as you admit the
Bush has done nothing to tighten up security at our borders.

Bush is an idiot with some kind of sinister agreement with Fox...but
he's our idiot and far better than ANYTHING the Dems have produced.
Honestly, do we want a return of someone even worse than Carter? Hillary
is a Lefty Looney.

--
Skipper

Our idiot? Let me ask you this: Are you the type that's loyal to
***ANYONE*** who's elected president, even someone severely retarded?

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:22:54 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Bush is an idiot with some kind of sinister agreement with Fox...but
he's our idiot and far better than ANYTHING the Dems have produced.
Honestly, do we want a return of someone even worse than Carter? Hillary
is a Lefty Looney.

He's not my idiot; he's your idiot. I never voted for him. And, as far
as being a better POTUS than Gore or Kerry might have been, we'll just
never know. I feel Gore would have been far better, but I really don't
know that much about Kerry.

In my own heart of hearts, I think Vice President Gore would have been
acceptable in that detached, intellectual kind of way. I don't think
he would have been elected to a second term - the American people
would have gotten tired of him very quickly.

Senator Kerry on the other hand would have been a disaster. Quite
beyond the fake hero crap, he is a ditherer and quite frankly, has
literally done nothing in his Senate career except take up space and
marry a former colleagues wife. He is the Democratic version of Dan
Quayle.

What scares me about Senator Clinton isn't the fact that she is
leftist looney or trying to position herself as a centrist - which is
laughable on the face of it - but her "husband", former President
Clinton. The competition between the two of them for face time would
be incredible to watch and I don't think the country could stand it.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......................

"Skipper" wrote in message
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Gorf wrote:

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

And what has GWB's response been?

Conservative Republicans offer the best chance to remedy the situation.
The Looney Left wants the illegal's vote, and will continue to give the
world free medical care, drivers licenses,etc.. McCain is no solution
and Hillary is worse.

--
Skipper

What country buys virtually all of the oil Mexico doesn't need for its own
use, and at nice, low prices?

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Gorf wrote:

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack
up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

And what has GWB's response been?

Conservative Republicans offer the best chance to remedy the situation.
The Looney Left wants the illegal's vote, and will continue to give the
world free medical care, drivers licenses,etc.. McCain is no solution
and Hillary is worse.

--
Skipper

actually because of GWB not wanting to deport the illegal aliens, and the
fact that they are strict Catholics, they primarily support the
republicans - not democrats. Bush passed a law making allowing illegal
aliens to collect Social security - think you better take your blinders off
and actually do some reading........

As far as Hilary - if she is nominated by the democrats, they will be handed
another loss.