"Gorf" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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As far as Hilary - if she is nominated by the democrats, they will be
handed
another loss.

I'm not so sure about that. It's fine points that detract from most
candidates. If she learns to shut her friggin' mouth about certain hot
button issues, like gun control, she might actually have a chance.



I firmly believe the US is not ready for a woman or black president. All
peoples prejudices will come bubbling up and either would lose.

I agree. I've even seen polls which indicate that women believe we're not
ready for a woman president. I'd like to know more about the thinking behind
that. I wonder if the results of such a poll are affected by the mere
presence of someone like Hillary. In other words, people ponder the
question, and the most prominent example is someone they're not fond of.
Whatever. I'd like to see a a half million women polled on who they think
*would* be a good candidate, with perhaps 20 choices listed. I'd vote for
Carly what's-her-name, who used to run Hewlett Packard. Hillary, maybe, if
she'd learn to shut her trap on issues that nobody has been able to clear up
for almost 100 years, like gun control. Even Bush, moron that he is, knows
enough to leave that one alone and let the courts figure out what the
founders meant in the 2nd amendment.


I mean look
at the last election, it was well known that Bush was liar and
incompetent,
he had lost more jobs during his first term in office than any other
president, he had the largest deficit in history and he had more votes
AGAINST him than any other president in history. But the brain-washed
holier-than-thou crowd turned out even more people!
IMO Hillary would get CREAMED!

Intellectual laziness, in my opinion. Subtract the truly stupid from the
voting population, and what's left couldn't possibly believe Bush was a good
candidate. People believe that there are so many levels of government, and
checks & balances, that no single person could really affect things in an
adverse way. Unfortunately, the mere presence of the clown has an effect.

Skipper wrote:

Dumbocrats are idiots and have no real monetary, budgetary, or foreign
policy. The current crop of Repubs is little better, but they do offer
the better option.

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Skipper

Skipper, do you really think that that crap above gives you ANY
credibility? Newsflash.....it doesn't!

I firmly believe the US is not ready for a woman or black president. All
peoples prejudices will come bubbling up and either would lose.


Prob'ly right.

Doug Kanter wrote:
.... I'd like to see a a half million women polled on who they think
*would* be a good candidate, with perhaps 20 choices listed. I'd vote for
Carly what's-her-name, who used to run Hewlett Packard.


GAHH!
You'd regret it if she won.
I used to own Hewlett-Packard stock, she's the reason I sold it. And a
good thing too, it dropped to about 10% what is was and will take
decades to come back.



I mean look
at the last election, it was well known that Bush was liar and
incompetent,
he had lost more jobs during his first term in office than any other
president, he had the largest deficit in history and he had more votes
AGAINST him than any other president in history. But the brain-washed
holier-than-thou crowd turned out even more people!
IMO Hillary would get CREAMED!


Possibly. Depends on who's pulling the strings.

The reason why Bush won in 2005 is that a few certain demographics
supported him strongly, ie all the fag-hating witch-burners and KKKers
that came roaring out to the polls to vote down gay marriage.

And it was a very close thing.



Intellectual laziness, in my opinion. Subtract the truly stupid from the
voting population, and what's left couldn't possibly believe Bush was a good
candidate.

I don't think *anybody* thought he was a good candidate, nor did anybody
think he was a good President. However, he heaped fuel on the fire of
hatred for them dad-gum libby-rulls & queers, and a lot of people get
off on that.

DSK

With the treaty signed and a 99-year lease given to the United States, the
Canal was built.


Skipper wrote:
The original agreement seeded the canal "in perpetuity", not just 99
years.

Malarkey.

It's easy to google up the truth, so don't even bother lying. And the
word you're groping for isn't spelled "seeded" you retard.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
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I firmly believe the US is not ready for a woman or black president. All
peoples prejudices will come bubbling up and either would lose.


Prob'ly right.

Doug Kanter wrote:
.... I'd like to see a a half million women polled on who they think
*would* be a good candidate, with perhaps 20 choices listed. I'd vote for
Carly what's-her-name, who used to run Hewlett Packard.


GAHH!
You'd regret it if she won.
I used to own Hewlett-Packard stock, she's the reason I sold it. And a
good thing too, it dropped to about 10% what is was and will take decades
to come back.

When I was 6 months from graduating Purdue Engineering, I interviewed with
HP. The interviewer met with about 2/3 of my class. Every guy who walked
out of the interview said that it was the worst interview that they had.
Every girl (all 6 of them) who walked out said it was the best interview
that they had.

HP ended up hiring two Purdue Mechanical Engineer graduates...and both were
women. Neither was in the top 50%of our class.

It was obvious that the interviewer was operating on a directive from their
female CEO to hire more women. The interviews with the men were just a
formality. The affirmative action/reverse sexism that took place in
corporate America was a good part of the reason why I ended up with a career
change and went to dental school.

So, indirectly, I can thank Carly for helping me make the best choice of my
life. ;-)

DSK wrote:

Skipper wrote:
The original agreement seeded the canal "in perpetuity", not just 99
years.

Malarkey.

It's easy to google up the truth, so don't even bother lying. And the
word you're groping for isn't spelled "seeded" you retard.

You must be one o' them droolin' Lefty Loonies. For your edification:

The Hay-Bunau-Varilla Treaty, November 18, 1903:

ARTICLE I - The United States guarantees and will maintain the
independence of the Republic of Panama.

ARTICLE II - The Republic of Panama grants to the United States in
perpetuity the use, occupation and control of a zone of land and land
under water for the construction maintenance, operation, sanitation and
protection of said Canal of the width of ten miles extending to the
distance of five miles on each side of the center line of the route of
the Canal to be constructed; the said zone beginning in the Caribbean
Sea three marine miles from mean low water mark and extending to and
across the Isthmus of Panama into the Pacific ocean to a distance of
three marine miles from mean low water mark with the proviso that the
cities of Panama and Colon and the harbors adjacent to said cities,
which are included within the boundaries of the zone above described,
shall not be included within this grant.

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/di...ama/pan001.htm

"In perpetuity":

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/pancanal1.html

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/dat...y.cfm?HHID=187

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Skipper

"Skipper" wrote in message
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Gorf wrote:

And it is therefore a shame that Bush continues to ignore our
borders. My concern goes past the cost to the US medical system
and to the actual security of our Country.

Amen

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

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Skipper

Who do you think has cost our country more Lawyers or Illegal aliens. The
answer Lawyers, they are responsible for most of our increases in Medical
costs, automobile insurance, high tech jobs going overseas (private aircraft
industry went outside the US in the 70's because of lawyers).

Jeff Rigby wrote:

"Skipper" wrote in message

It's best not to underestimate the total damage that's been done to our
country by allowing illegal aliens to abuse our medical system. Someone
has to pay for this abuse. Bottom line, we ALL do. The hospitals jack up
their rates to compensate...insurance companies jack up their
rates...employers are forced to pay exhorbinant premiums or send the
work out of the country...a vicious spiral. It costs us jobs and lowers
our mean standard of living.

Who do you think has cost our country more Lawyers or Illegal aliens.

Illegal aliens are currently causing more harm. Their damage is global,
we all pay...and in many ways.

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Skipper