On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:53:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Maybe Grady feels that an offshore boat running 20-30 mph in rough
seas could break the through-hull free from the water, causing the pump to
lose it's prime?

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Most A/C circulating pumps are not self priming and have to be mounted
below the waterline. If the through hull is forward, losing prime in
the waves could be an issue I suppose.

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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:53:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Maybe Grady feels that an offshore boat running 20-30 mph in rough
seas could break the through-hull free from the water, causing the pump to
lose it's prime?

===============================================

Most A/C circulating pumps are not self priming and have to be mounted
below the waterline. If the through hull is forward, losing prime in
the waves could be an issue I suppose.

The through hull is located beneath the cabin sole...so I believe you're
right.

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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:11:09 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

One thing that I didn't know is that the owners manual states that the
A/C shouldn't be run when operating the outboards over 2500 RPM.

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Interesting. I never have that problem with the trawler running at 9
kts. :-) You could probably replace the through hull fitting with a
"scoop" type that would actually force water through the A/C at speed,
but I suppose there's always the risk of losing cooling water to the
generator as well.

Fuel burn sounds very reasonable for a boat of that size and speed.


And move the through hull to the bottom of the boat just ahead of the
transom.

That's precisely where it's shown in the schematics in my owners manual.
But my boat has it in the bilge area under the aft birth in the forward
cabin.

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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:11:09 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

One thing that I didn't know is that the owners manual states that the
A/C shouldn't be run when operating the outboards over 2500 RPM.
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Interesting. I never have that problem with the trawler running at 9
kts. :-) You could probably replace the through hull fitting with a
"scoop" type that would actually force water through the A/C at speed,
but I suppose there's always the risk of losing cooling water to the
generator as well.

Fuel burn sounds very reasonable for a boat of that size and speed.

And move the through hull to the bottom of the boat just ahead of the
transom.

That's precisely where it's shown in the schematics in my owners manual.
But my boat has it in the bilge area under the aft birth in the forward
cabin.





I'd call the factory and ask why it was put where it shouldn't have been.
Was the A/C an aftermarket job?

I don't know.

Regardless, even though the manual shows the A/C pickup near the stern, it
still says not to operate the A/C when running over 2500 RPM.

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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:53:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Maybe Grady feels that an offshore boat running 20-30 mph in rough
seas could break the through-hull free from the water, causing the pump to
lose it's prime?

===============================================

Most A/C circulating pumps are not self priming and have to be mounted
below the waterline. If the through hull is forward, losing prime in
the waves could be an issue I suppose.

The through hull is located beneath the cabin sole...so I believe you're
right.

So, where'd you get the boat, NOYB?

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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:53:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Maybe Grady feels that an offshore boat running 20-30 mph in rough
seas could break the through-hull free from the water, causing the pump
to
lose it's prime?

===============================================

Most A/C circulating pumps are not self priming and have to be mounted
below the waterline. If the through hull is forward, losing prime in
the waves could be an issue I suppose.

The through hull is located beneath the cabin sole...so I believe you're
right.

So, where'd you get the boat, NOYB?


Bayside Marina. About a half mile south of Gandy Blvd (by the railroad
tracks).


It was about 160 run by water back to Naples.

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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:53:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Maybe Grady feels that an offshore boat running 20-30 mph in rough
seas could break the through-hull free from the water, causing the pump
to
lose it's prime?

===============================================

Most A/C circulating pumps are not self priming and have to be mounted
below the waterline. If the through hull is forward, losing prime in
the waves could be an issue I suppose.

The through hull is located beneath the cabin sole...so I believe you're
right.

So, where'd you get the boat, NOYB?


Bayside Marina. About a half mile south of Gandy Blvd (by the railroad
tracks).


It was about 160 run by water back to Naples.

Cool, bet that was a fun ride going back to Naples. Did you happen to
eat at the Rattle Fish? It's right at Bayside, at Tyson St. Good food,
fun place.

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NOYB wrote:
In 1993, Representive Murth


I'm sure you'll do a wonderful job convincing yourself and a few of the
other righties.

Your boy Bush is heading for history's dumpster.

So you have no comment on the fact that Murtha urged the removal of
troops from Somalia in 1993, and bin Laden used that specific retreat as
propaganda material in a fatwa he issued 3 years later declaring war on
the US?

Some people know when to let a country melt down all by itself. I'm sure
that some of our representatives thought that leaving would show
weakness, which is exactly what OBL said. So what? If your neighbor's
marriage is falling apart, do you offer to talk if they need to? Or, do
you kick in their front door and tell them you're not leaving until they
straighten things out?


You are *the* man of off-the-wall analogies.

You compare the situation in Somalia to a failing marriage? How would
have talking to Aideed helped in Somalia?




I didn't say we should hug a lunatic and help him see a better way. I'm
pointing out that we have a habit (which cannot be debated - so don't try)
of lumbering into whatever country we fancy at the moment, and trying to
either force a template onto it, or attempting to accelerate political and
social changes which need to proceed on their own. Vietnam's a perfect
example. It's still a communist country (according to the CIA), so our
presence there was a complete waste of lives and time. As economists in the
1960s pointed out, even communist countries would eventually have to behave
like capitalists to bolster trade, but we couldn't wait for that
evolutionary process. You know the rest. How many more examples would you
like?

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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:53:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Maybe Grady feels that an offshore boat running 20-30 mph in rough
seas could break the through-hull free from the water, causing the
pump
to
lose it's prime?

===============================================

Most A/C circulating pumps are not self priming and have to be
mounted
below the waterline. If the through hull is forward, losing prime
in
the waves could be an issue I suppose.

The through hull is located beneath the cabin sole...so I believe
you're
right.

So, where'd you get the boat, NOYB?


Bayside Marina. About a half mile south of Gandy Blvd (by the railroad
tracks).


It was about 160 run by water back to Naples.

Cool, bet that was a fun ride going back to Naples. Did you happen to
eat at the Rattle Fish? It's right at Bayside, at Tyson St. Good food,
fun place.

It looked like a neat place, but I didn't eat there. We were pressed for
time, so I brought Publix subs for the ride home. As it turned out, we
didn't get back to my house until 2 1/2 hours after sunset.

The last 25 miles or so were pretty damn bumpy. I couldn't see how big the
seas were because it was dark, but I'd estimate that they were 3-5. It's
not a trip that I want to make again in just one day...at least until my
kids are older and don't need as much looking-after as they needed on that
trip.

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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:53:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Maybe Grady feels that an offshore boat running 20-30 mph in rough
seas could break the through-hull free from the water, causing the
pump
to
lose it's prime?

===============================================

Most A/C circulating pumps are not self priming and have to be
mounted
below the waterline. If the through hull is forward, losing prime
in
the waves could be an issue I suppose.

The through hull is located beneath the cabin sole...so I believe
you're
right.

So, where'd you get the boat, NOYB?


Bayside Marina. About a half mile south of Gandy Blvd (by the railroad
tracks).


It was about 160 run by water back to Naples.

Cool, bet that was a fun ride going back to Naples. Did you happen to
eat at the Rattle Fish? It's right at Bayside, at Tyson St. Good food,
fun place.

It looked like a neat place, but I didn't eat there. We were pressed for
time, so I brought Publix subs for the ride home. As it turned out, we
didn't get back to my house until 2 1/2 hours after sunset.

The last 25 miles or so were pretty damn bumpy. I couldn't see how big the
seas were because it was dark, but I'd estimate that they were 3-5. It's
not a trip that I want to make again in just one day...at least until my
kids are older and don't need as much looking-after as they needed on that
trip.

I'll bet. I used to shark fish from the pier at Ft. DeSoto, and it
would get rough as hell out there after sunset.