Pretty good advice to the NG:

God rest ye merry, gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay
Remember Christ our Savior
Was born on Christmas Day
To save us all from Satan's power
When we were gone astray
O tidings of comfort and joy
Comfort and joy
O tidings of comfort and joy

From God our heavenly Father
A blessed angel came
And unto certain shepherds
Brought tiding of the same
How that in Bethlehem was born
The Son of God by name

"Fear not, then," said the angel
"Let nothing you affright
This day is born a Savior
Of a pure virgin bright
To free all those who trust in him
From Satan's power and might."

Now to the Lord sing praises
All you within this place
And with true love and brotherhood
Each other now embrace
this holy tide of Christmas
Doth bring redeeming grace

--
Skipper

Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Pretty good advice to the NG:

God rest ye merry, gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay
Remember Christ our Savior
Was born on Christmas Day
To save us all from Satan's power
When we were gone astray
O tidings of comfort and joy
Comfort and joy
O tidings of comfort and joy

From God our heavenly Father
A blessed angel came
And unto certain shepherds
Brought tiding of the same
How that in Bethlehem was born
The Son of God by name

"Fear not, then," said the angel
"Let nothing you affright
This day is born a Savior
Of a pure virgin bright
To free all those who trust in him
From Satan's power and might."

Now to the Lord sing praises
All you within this place
And with true love and brotherhood
Each other now embrace
this holy tide of Christmas
Doth bring redeeming grace

--
Skipper


It's a pretty 15th Century carol, of course, but the sentiments are
utterly ridiculous. And with your attitudes, Snipper, your professing to
be a "Christian" is the height of hypocrisy.



Skipper the Christian? If so, he must have misread Matthew 5:44. Maybe
he thinks it reads, "prey on those who persecute you." :-)

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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Pretty good advice to the NG:

God rest ye merry, gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay
Remember Christ our Savior
Was born on Christmas Day
To save us all from Satan's power
When we were gone astray
O tidings of comfort and joy
Comfort and joy
O tidings of comfort and joy

From God our heavenly Father
A blessed angel came
And unto certain shepherds
Brought tiding of the same
How that in Bethlehem was born
The Son of God by name

"Fear not, then," said the angel
"Let nothing you affright
This day is born a Savior
Of a pure virgin bright
To free all those who trust in him
From Satan's power and might."

Now to the Lord sing praises
All you within this place
And with true love and brotherhood
Each other now embrace
this holy tide of Christmas
Doth bring redeeming grace

--
Skipper


It's a pretty 15th Century carol, of course, but the sentiments are
utterly ridiculous. And with your attitudes, Snipper, your professing to
be a "Christian" is the height of hypocrisy.



Skipper the Christian? If so, he must have misread Matthew 5:44. Maybe
he thinks it reads, "prey on those who persecute you." :-)


Do you believe in the Bible Chuck?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Pretty good advice to the NG:

God rest ye merry, gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay
Remember Christ our Savior
Was born on Christmas Day
To save us all from Satan's power
When we were gone astray
O tidings of comfort and joy
Comfort and joy
O tidings of comfort and joy

From God our heavenly Father
A blessed angel came
And unto certain shepherds
Brought tiding of the same
How that in Bethlehem was born
The Son of God by name

"Fear not, then," said the angel
"Let nothing you affright
This day is born a Savior
Of a pure virgin bright
To free all those who trust in him
From Satan's power and might."

Now to the Lord sing praises
All you within this place
And with true love and brotherhood
Each other now embrace
this holy tide of Christmas
Doth bring redeeming grace

--
Skipper

It's a pretty 15th Century carol, of course, but the sentiments are
utterly ridiculous. And with your attitudes, Snipper, your professing
to
be a "Christian" is the height of hypocrisy.


Skipper the Christian? If so, he must have misread Matthew 5:44. Maybe
he thinks it reads, "prey on those who persecute you." :-)


Do you believe in the Bible Chuck?



"Believe" in the bible? Whatever does that mean? Might you qualify that
comment?



OK.

Do you believe in the words of the Bible?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Pretty good advice to the NG:

God rest ye merry, gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay
Remember Christ our Savior
Was born on Christmas Day
To save us all from Satan's power
When we were gone astray
O tidings of comfort and joy
Comfort and joy
O tidings of comfort and joy

From God our heavenly Father
A blessed angel came
And unto certain shepherds
Brought tiding of the same
How that in Bethlehem was born
The Son of God by name

"Fear not, then," said the angel
"Let nothing you affright
This day is born a Savior
Of a pure virgin bright
To free all those who trust in him
From Satan's power and might."

Now to the Lord sing praises
All you within this place
And with true love and brotherhood
Each other now embrace
this holy tide of Christmas
Doth bring redeeming grace

--
Skipper
It's a pretty 15th Century carol, of course, but the sentiments are
utterly ridiculous. And with your attitudes, Snipper, your professing
to
be a "Christian" is the height of hypocrisy.

Skipper the Christian? If so, he must have misread Matthew 5:44. Maybe
he thinks it reads, "prey on those who persecute you." :-)

Do you believe in the Bible Chuck?


"Believe" in the bible? Whatever does that mean? Might you qualify that
comment?



OK.

Do you believe in the words of the Bible?

I don't mean to be difficult, but what is it you are asking?

I already explained.

Are you asking me if I believe the bible to be "the word of god and
literally true"?

If that's what you are asking, then my answer would be no, it is not the
word of god and it is not literally true.

I am asking a simple question Harry. Do you believe in the words in the
Bible?

The answer is 'yes' or 'no'.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Pretty good advice to the NG:

God rest ye merry, gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay
Remember Christ our Savior
Was born on Christmas Day
To save us all from Satan's power
When we were gone astray
O tidings of comfort and joy
Comfort and joy
O tidings of comfort and joy

From God our heavenly Father
A blessed angel came
And unto certain shepherds
Brought tiding of the same
How that in Bethlehem was born
The Son of God by name

"Fear not, then," said the angel
"Let nothing you affright
This day is born a Savior
Of a pure virgin bright
To free all those who trust in him
From Satan's power and might."

Now to the Lord sing praises
All you within this place
And with true love and brotherhood
Each other now embrace
this holy tide of Christmas
Doth bring redeeming grace

--
Skipper
It's a pretty 15th Century carol, of course, but the sentiments are
utterly ridiculous. And with your attitudes, Snipper, your
professing to
be a "Christian" is the height of hypocrisy.

Skipper the Christian? If so, he must have misread Matthew 5:44.
Maybe
he thinks it reads, "prey on those who persecute you." :-)

Do you believe in the Bible Chuck?


"Believe" in the bible? Whatever does that mean? Might you qualify
that comment?


OK.

Do you believe in the words of the Bible?
I don't mean to be difficult, but what is it you are asking?

I already explained.

Are you asking me if I believe the bible to be "the word of god and
literally true"?

If that's what you are asking, then my answer would be no, it is not the
word of god and it is not literally true.

I am asking a simple question Harry. Do you believe in the words in the
Bible?

The answer is 'yes' or 'no'.


I suggest you read my response again and come to your own conclusion.



The answer is yes or no.

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Krause wrote:

Skipper the Christian? If so, he must have misread Matthew 5:44. Maybe
he thinks it reads, "prey on those who persecute you." :-)

Quick! Throw the chum boys, those big bottom feeders have risen to the
bait.

--
Skipper

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Pretty good advice to the NG:

God rest ye merry, gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay
Remember Christ our Savior
Was born on Christmas Day
To save us all from Satan's power
When we were gone astray
O tidings of comfort and joy
Comfort and joy
O tidings of comfort and joy

From God our heavenly Father
A blessed angel came
And unto certain shepherds
Brought tiding of the same
How that in Bethlehem was born
The Son of God by name

"Fear not, then," said the angel
"Let nothing you affright
This day is born a Savior
Of a pure virgin bright
To free all those who trust in him
From Satan's power and might."

Now to the Lord sing praises
All you within this place
And with true love and brotherhood
Each other now embrace
this holy tide of Christmas
Doth bring redeeming grace

--
Skipper
It's a pretty 15th Century carol, of course, but the sentiments
are
utterly ridiculous. And with your attitudes, Snipper, your
professing to
be a "Christian" is the height of hypocrisy.

Skipper the Christian? If so, he must have misread Matthew 5:44.
Maybe
he thinks it reads, "prey on those who persecute you." :-)

Do you believe in the Bible Chuck?


"Believe" in the bible? Whatever does that mean? Might you qualify
that comment?

OK.

Do you believe in the words of the Bible?
I don't mean to be difficult, but what is it you are asking?
I already explained.

Are you asking me if I believe the bible to be "the word of god and
literally true"?

If that's what you are asking, then my answer would be no, it is not
the word of god and it is not literally true.
I am asking a simple question Harry. Do you believe in the words in
the Bible?

The answer is 'yes' or 'no'.

I suggest you read my response again and come to your own conclusion.



The answer is yes or no.


Surely you an "interpret" the answer I gave you. Can't you?
Do you really need simplified?



What words in my response did you not understand Harry?

On 3 Dec 2005 18:20:49 -0800, wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Pretty good advice to the NG:

God rest ye merry, gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay
Remember Christ our Savior
Was born on Christmas Day
To save us all from Satan's power
When we were gone astray
O tidings of comfort and joy
Comfort and joy
O tidings of comfort and joy

From God our heavenly Father
A blessed angel came
And unto certain shepherds
Brought tiding of the same
How that in Bethlehem was born
The Son of God by name

"Fear not, then," said the angel
"Let nothing you affright
This day is born a Savior
Of a pure virgin bright
To free all those who trust in him
From Satan's power and might."

Now to the Lord sing praises
All you within this place
And with true love and brotherhood
Each other now embrace
this holy tide of Christmas
Doth bring redeeming grace

--
Skipper


It's a pretty 15th Century carol, of course, but the sentiments are
utterly ridiculous. And with your attitudes, Snipper, your professing to
be a "Christian" is the height of hypocrisy.



Skipper the Christian? If so, he must have misread Matthew 5:44. Maybe
he thinks it reads, "prey on those who persecute you." :-)

....and Harry's the one talking of attending Mass on Christmas day.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you the best as we celebrate the birth of our Lord, Jesus Christ.

*JimH* wrote:
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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:
Pretty good advice to the NG:

God rest ye merry, gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay
Remember Christ our Savior
Was born on Christmas Day
To save us all from Satan's power
When we were gone astray
O tidings of comfort and joy
Comfort and joy
O tidings of comfort and joy

From God our heavenly Father
A blessed angel came
And unto certain shepherds
Brought tiding of the same
How that in Bethlehem was born
The Son of God by name

"Fear not, then," said the angel
"Let nothing you affright
This day is born a Savior
Of a pure virgin bright
To free all those who trust in him
From Satan's power and might."

Now to the Lord sing praises
All you within this place
And with true love and brotherhood
Each other now embrace
this holy tide of Christmas
Doth bring redeeming grace

--
Skipper


It's a pretty 15th Century carol, of course, but the sentiments are
utterly ridiculous. And with your attitudes, Snipper, your professing to
be a "Christian" is the height of hypocrisy.



Skipper the Christian? If so, he must have misread Matthew 5:44. Maybe
he thinks it reads, "prey on those who persecute you." :-)


Do you believe in the Bible Chuck?

I believe in a lot of things. One of those things is that the
collection of books assembled in Nicea in something like the 3rd or 4th
Century to comprise the volume we commonly call "The Bible" (a word
that shares a Greek word that means "library") today was selected by a
group of (mostly) well intentioned priests, clergymen, and highly
placed church politicians. Some of the people on the committee
obviously had some extremely sincere motivations, but it was ludicrous
for people to sit and vote on whether or not the Gospel of Mary, the
Gospel of James, the Gospel of Thomas, or other texts used by the
Christian churches for the first few hundred years were the "word of
God", or not.

God undoubtedly speaks to a lot of different people in a lot of
different ways, an no mortal person could ever hope to accurately
reduce Godspeak to a human language. Do I believe that the Bible
contains a group of books written by people who believe that God spoke
to them and said "X........."? Yes. Do I believe that there are other
"divinely inspired" books that aren't included in the Bible? Yes. Many
of those books aren't even of Christian or Jewish origin.

So do I believe in the Bible? Of course. I have unassailable evidence
that the Bible exists.:-)

While I don't belong to any church, there is a fairly progressive
congregation in my neighborhood where I am welcome to attend (without
obligation to join or profess anything specific) and I have been known
to do so. I'm a sincere monotheist, who believes that polytheism
celebrates various "aspects" of a divine cosmic consciousness.. I
believe that the soul is energy, and cannot be destroyed, so I have no
real problem with eternal life. If I were to have an extended religious
discussion with a fundamentalist Christian, we would probably be
surprised at the number of things we agree on. However, my personal
faith doesn't fit "between the lines" and it would be hypocritical, as
well as inaccurate, to describe myself as any sort of "Christian" you
would be likely to recognize. :-)

But I come from a long line of independent thinkers and
non-conformists. One of my ancestral cousins, Joseph Smith, was a
founder of the Mormon Church. (His grandmother was a Gould from my
lineage. In fact, his grandfather married two Gould sisters, one after
the first one died). Several of my great aunts, (the Towne sisters)
were victims of the witch hyteria in Topsfield/Salem. Being spiritually
off center, at least a bit, is a family tradition.

Oh, by the way, as far as the Christmas Carol posted in this thread
goes, few people
probably understand that it's actually saying:

"May you be happy when you die". "Merry" is an adverb for resting, not
an adjective for "gentlemen". Olde English, wouldn't you know?

So Merry Christmas to you, Jim H. Just don't be so sure that pine tree
in your livingroom is a holy, (or wholly) Christian symbol. :-)