Grin, Christmas shopping is a relatively new aspect of celebrating
Christmas. Dec. 25th was chosen by Constantine because it was the date many
pagans celebrated the winter solstice.

All I have to say is if you have snow outside on Dec.25th, you live too far
to the north.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
No, I'm right. Make a list of things you'd NEVER want to do on Dec 25th,
assuming the things on the list were optional, and you lived in the snow
belt. I'm sure that optional shopping would be on the list.



"Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest and most accurate Gun in the World
wrote in message ...
LOL, Doug you are a trip.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message
. ..
JimC,
Why is the fact that Dec. 25th is not the actual birthday of JC matter?
I don't think anyone really thinks 12/25 is his birthday, they use that
annual date to celebrate his birth. It is very common among parents
who adopted children from overseas, to designate a date to celebrate
the child's birthday. They know it is not the actual date, but it
allows them to celebrate their child's birthday. Why is this so hard
to understand?

In my opinion, whoever picked Dec 25 either lived in a warm climate, or
was totally insane. No normal person wants to slog through winter slop
to go shopping.

Harry,
No where did Jesus say you must be perfect to be a Christian. In reality,
Jesus assumed no man could be perfect, that all men were imperfect by the
nature of man and original sin.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I've been a Christian all my life.

Don't you mean, you say you are a Christian. If your statements and
behavior here are indicators, you are not following the teachings of
Jesus.

--
Today's Republicans: a Cabal of Corruption.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message
. ..
JimC,
Why is the fact that Dec. 25th is not the actual birthday of JC matter?
I don't think anyone really thinks 12/25 is his birthday, they use that
annual date to celebrate his birth. It is very common among parents who
adopted children from overseas, to designate a date to celebrate the
child's birthday. They know it is not the actual date, but it allows
them to celebrate their child's birthday. Why is this so hard to
understand?

In my opinion, whoever picked Dec 25 either lived in a warm climate, or
was totally insane. No normal person wants to slog through winter slop to
go shopping.

If must have been the big reatilers, they needed a big shopping push to fill
their coffers before the end of the 4th quarter.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I've been a Christian all my life.

Don't you mean, you say you are a Christian. If your statements and
behavior here are indicators, you are not following the teachings of
Jesus.

Harry, you need a new line. The one above is getting old and is borne of
ignorance.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:58:35 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

John H. wrote:


I've been a Christian all my life.

Don't you mean, you say you are a Christian. If your statements and
behavior here are indicators, you are not following the teachings of Jesus.

Are you referring to my opinion of you?

Bless you, Harry.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message . ..
JimC,
Why is the fact that Dec. 25th is not the actual birthday of JC matter?
I
don't think anyone really thinks 12/25 is his birthday, they use that
annual
date to celebrate his birth. It is very common among parents who adopted
children from overseas, to designate a date to celebrate the child's
birthday. They know it is not the actual date, but it allows them to
celebrate their child's birthday. Why is this so hard to understand?
You don't have to convince me of that fact! I fully understand the myth
of it. Tell that to the fans of Christmas in this group. I am not one
of
them. I am not a Christian.

Jim C.



And does anyone belittle your beliefs?

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message . ..
JimC,
Why is the fact that Dec. 25th is not the actual birthday of JC matter?
I
don't think anyone really thinks 12/25 is his birthday, they use that
annual
date to celebrate his birth. It is very common among parents who
adopted
children from overseas, to designate a date to celebrate the child's
birthday. They know it is not the actual date, but it allows them to
celebrate their child's birthday. Why is this so hard to understand?
You don't have to convince me of that fact! I fully understand the
myth
of it. Tell that to the fans of Christmas in this group. I am not one
of
them. I am not a Christian.

Jim C.



And does anyone belittle your beliefs?


And JC sure likes to force his beliefs on us. :-)

" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message . ..
JimC,
Why is the fact that Dec. 25th is not the actual birthday of JC matter?
I
don't think anyone really thinks 12/25 is his birthday, they use that
annual
date to celebrate his birth. It is very common among parents who
adopted
children from overseas, to designate a date to celebrate the child's
birthday. They know it is not the actual date, but it allows them to
celebrate their child's birthday. Why is this so hard to understand?
You don't have to convince me of that fact! I fully understand the
myth
of it. Tell that to the fans of Christmas in this group. I am not one
of
them. I am not a Christian.

Jim C.



And does anyone belittle your beliefs?


And JC sure likes to force his beliefs on us. :-)


No one forces you to go to a Christian Church. So how is that forcing his
beliefs on you? Same as Wal-Mart, or Macy's with their ads forcing shopping
at those stores on you.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message . ..
JimC,
Why is the fact that Dec. 25th is not the actual birthday of JC
matter? I
don't think anyone really thinks 12/25 is his birthday, they use that
annual
date to celebrate his birth. It is very common among parents who
adopted
children from overseas, to designate a date to celebrate the child's
birthday. They know it is not the actual date, but it allows them to
celebrate their child's birthday. Why is this so hard to understand?
You don't have to convince me of that fact! I fully understand the
myth
of it. Tell that to the fans of Christmas in this group. I am not
one of
them. I am not a Christian.

Jim C.



And does anyone belittle your beliefs?


And JC sure likes to force his beliefs on us. :-)


No one forces you to go to a Christian Church. So how is that forcing
his beliefs on you? Same as Wal-Mart, or Macy's with their ads forcing
shopping at those stores on you.


Bill, I was being facetious. JC often makes the claim about Christians.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:35:43 -0500, John H. wrote:


Well, JC, I'm glad for you. You have no beliefs to be disparaged. I hope
the celebration of Christmas by about 90% of the US doesn't upset you too
much.

I suspect more than 90% celebrate Christmas, but then you don't need to be
a Christian to celebrate it, do you? According to the CIA factbook, only
80% of the population is Christian.

Protestant 52%, Roman Catholic 24%, Mormon 2%, Jewish 1%, Muslim 1%,
other 10%, none 10% (2002 est.)

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/us.html