On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:37:02 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


In my opinion, whoever picked Dec 25 either lived in a warm climate, or
was totally insane. No normal person wants to slog through winter slop to
go shopping.

It must be my upbringing, but I've spent several Christmases surrounded by
palm trees. I find it quite strange. Give me snow on Christmas.

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:57:38 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:37:02 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


In my opinion, whoever picked Dec 25 either lived in a warm climate, or
was totally insane. No normal person wants to slog through winter slop
to
go shopping.

It must be my upbringing, but I've spent several Christmases surrounded by
palm trees. I find it quite strange. Give me snow on Christmas.

Damn straight.

Our family flew into Florida when the kids were young on Christmas Day for a
7 day stay at a nice 3 bedroom condo in Kissimmee and visits to Disney World
and Universal Studios.

We left Cleveland with several inches of snow on the ground and a
temperature in the 20's...............arrived Orlando with 80 degree
temperatures and absolutely gorgeous weather.

It certainly did not feel like Christmas but being able to wear shorts/tee
shirts and go for swims at the condo pool in late December was pretty nice.

That being said............snow on Christmas morning is good..........any
other time sucks.;-)

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:57:38 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:37:02 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


In my opinion, whoever picked Dec 25 either lived in a warm climate, or
was totally insane. No normal person wants to slog through winter slop
to
go shopping.

It must be my upbringing, but I've spent several Christmases surrounded by
palm trees. I find it quite strange. Give me snow on Christmas.

Damn straight.

Sociopath.

"Lord Reginald Smithers" wrote...

Even if the bible is not an accurate record of historical events, don't you
agree that the principles taught in the new testament are those that are good
for society and individuals?


Why only the new testament?

Rick,

There are many excellent principles in the old testament.


"-rick-" wrote in message
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"Lord Reginald Smithers" wrote...

Even if the bible is not an accurate record of historical events, don't
you agree that the principles taught in the new testament are those that
are good for society and individuals?


Why only the new testament?

Tom,
Why is that?


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:40:49 -0800, "-rick-" wrote:


"Lord Reginald Smithers" wrote...

Even if the bible is not an accurate record of historical events, don't
you
agree that the principles taught in the new testament are those that are
good
for society and individuals?

Why only the new testament?

Personally, I like the Gnostic Gospels.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:53:59 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:35:43 -0500, John H. wrote:


Well, JC, I'm glad for you. You have no beliefs to be disparaged. I hope
the celebration of Christmas by about 90% of the US doesn't upset you too
much.

I suspect more than 90% celebrate Christmas, but then you don't need to be
a Christian to celebrate it, do you? According to the CIA factbook, only
80% of the population is Christian.

Protestant 52%, Roman Catholic 24%, Mormon 2%, Jewish 1%, Muslim 1%,
other 10%, none 10% (2002 est.)

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/us.html

My dentist celebrates Christmas, tree, presents for her kids, office decorations, etc. and she's a
Muslim from Iran. The family just liked the traditions, and so did their kids (duh!).
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular,
and your New Year even Better!

"Smithers" wrote...

There are many excellent principles in the old testament.

And also some truly horrible ones. I just wondered why you excluded it. Those
decent and useful principles may be reached and justified through empathy and
rational thought in my opinion, however we don't need to debate that here.
Enjoy the holidays.

-rick-

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:09:50 -0500, John H. wrote:


My dentist celebrates Christmas, tree, presents for her kids, office
decorations, etc. and she's a Muslim from Iran. The family just liked the
traditions, and so did their kids (duh!). --

I've known more than one Jewish family that have celebrated Christmas.
Although, I would have to say they were ethnically Jewish, and perhaps,
not practicing Jews.

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular,
and your New Year even Better!

So John, with all this Happy Holidays/Merry Christmas hubbub, do you send
two cards out? You know, one for Christmas and one for New Years?
Personally, I always thought that was what Happy Holidays (as in plural)
was about. Stupid me, I never realized it was a communist plot against
that poor downtrodden American minority, Christians.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:53:59 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:35:43 -0500, John H. wrote:


Well, JC, I'm glad for you. You have no beliefs to be disparaged. I
hope
the celebration of Christmas by about 90% of the US doesn't upset you
too
much.

I suspect more than 90% celebrate Christmas, but then you don't need to
be
a Christian to celebrate it, do you? According to the CIA factbook, only
80% of the population is Christian.

Protestant 52%, Roman Catholic 24%, Mormon 2%, Jewish 1%, Muslim 1%,
other 10%, none 10% (2002 est.)

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/us.html

My dentist celebrates Christmas, tree, presents for her kids, office
decorations, etc. and she's a
Muslim from Iran. The family just liked the traditions, and so did their
kids (duh!).

Muslims also celebrate Easter (at least they did the time I was in Egypt)

--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular,
and your New Year even Better!