On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:57:29 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
A passenger on Flight 924 gives his account of the shooting and says
Rigoberto Alpizar never claimed to have a bomb
By SIOBHAN MORRISSEY/MIAMI
(Time Magazine)
Posted Thursday, Dec. 08, 2005
At least one passenger aboard American Airlines Flight 924 maintains
the federal air marshals were a little too quick on the draw when they
shot and killed Rigoberto Alpizar as he frantically attempted to run
off the airplane shortly before take-off.

"I don't think they needed to use deadly force with the guy," says John
McAlhany, a 44-year-old construction worker from Sebastian, Fla. "He
was getting off the plane." McAlhany also maintains that Alpizar never
mentioned having a bomb.

"I never heard the word 'bomb' on the plane," McAlhany told TIME in a
telephone interview. "I never heard the word bomb until the FBI asked
me did you hear the word bomb. That is ridiculous." Even the
authorities didn't come out and say bomb, McAlhany says. "They asked,
'Did you hear anything about the b-word?'" he says. "That's what they
called it."

When the incident began McAlhany was in seat 24C, in the middle of the
plane. "[Alpizar] was in the back," McAlhany says, "a few seats from
the back bathroom. He sat down." Then, McAlhany says, "I heard an
argument with his wife. He was saying 'I have to get off the plane.'
She said, 'Calm down.'"

Alpizar took off running down the aisle, with his wife close behind
him. "She was running behind him saying, 'He's sick. He's sick. He's
ill. He's got a disorder," McAlhany recalls. "I don't know if she said
bipolar disorder [as one witness has alleged]. She was trying to
explain to the marshals that he was ill. He just wanted to get off the
plane."


McAlhany described Alpizar as carrying a big backpack and wearing a
fanny pack in front. He says it would have been impossible for Alpizar
to lie flat on the floor of the plane, as marshals ordered him to do,
with the fanny pack on. "You can't get on the ground with a fanny
pack," he says. "You have to move it to the side."

By the time Alpizar made it to the front of the airplane, the crew had
ordered the rest of the passengers to get down between the seats. "I
didn't see him get shot," he says. "They kept telling me to get down. I
heard about five shots."

McAlhany says he tried to see what was happening just in case he needed
to take evasive action. "I wanted to make sure if anything was coming
toward me and they were killing passengers I would have a chance to
break somebody's neck," he says. "I was looking through the seats
because I wanted to see what was coming.

"I was on the phone with my brother. Somebody came down the aisle and
put a shotgun to the back of my head and said put your hands on the
seat in front of you. I got my cell phone karate chopped out of my
hand. Then I realized it was an official."

In the ensuing events, many of the passengers began crying in fear, he
recalls. "They were pointing the guns directly at us instead of
pointing them to the ground," he says "One little girl was crying.
There was a lady crying all the way to the hotel."

McAlhany said he saw Alpizar before the flight and is absolutely
stunned by what unfolded on the airplane. He says he saw Alpizar eating
a sandwich in the boarding area before getting on the plane. He looked
normal at that time, McAlhany says. He thinks the whole thing was a
mistake: "I don't believe he should be dead right now."

How far back in your ancestry do you have to go to get the McAlhany's, Harry. Sounds like he's a
pretty close relative of yours.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

This episode really does make me feel safer flying. At least we know
there really are sky marshalls who can act quickly to such a threat.
Its too bad the guy is dead but the sky marshalls did exactly as they
were supposed to do. They should get medals.

On 8 Dec 2005 19:08:04 -0800, wrote:

This episode really does make me feel safer flying. At least we know
there really are sky marshalls who can act quickly to such a threat.
Its too bad the guy is dead but the sky marshalls did exactly as they
were supposed to do. They should get medals.

Amen!

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On 8 Dec 2005 19:08:04 -0800, wrote:

This episode really does make me feel safer flying. At least we know
there really are sky marshalls who can act quickly to such a threat.
Its too bad the guy is dead but the sky marshalls did exactly as they
were supposed to do. They should get medals.

Amen!

--
John H


They should get medals for shooting and killing a mentally ill person,
John?

Yes, a mentally ill person claiming to have a bomb, running towards a
terminal building filled with people and refusing to stop when ordered to.

Bang-bang.

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This episode really does make me feel safer flying. At least we know
there really are sky marshalls who can act quickly to such a threat.
Its too bad the guy is dead but the sky marshalls did exactly as they
were supposed to do. They should get medals.


My only issue with air marshals is that some of them have a bit too much
bravado. Last time I flew, I was in the preliminary security line where we
were asked for boarding pass and picture ID. The guy ahead of me pulled open
one side of his trenchcoat to show something on his belt. Hopefully, we was
displaying his badge, not his weapon. The security person smiled, nodded her
head, and the guy proceeded. That was extremely stupid. He gave away his
identity to anyone in line who was paying attention.

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 08:04:10 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 8 Dec 2005 19:08:04 -0800, wrote:

This episode really does make me feel safer flying. At least we know
there really are sky marshalls who can act quickly to such a threat.
Its too bad the guy is dead but the sky marshalls did exactly as they
were supposed to do. They should get medals.

Amen!

--
John H


They should get medals for shooting and killing a mentally ill person,
John?

In my opinion, *any* suicide bomber is mentally ill. Should they be given psychiatric treatment
before or after they reach for the switch?

Tell us about the solemn high mass you're attending on Christmas day, Harry.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.